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Gods of Egypt (2016) Dir: Alex Proyas - Hollywood tackles Ancient Egyptian mythos
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Seriously, I AM HYPED!
How often do we see the Egyptian gods get their own film? Not very.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Why are the gods of Egypt all white guys?
Geoffrey Rush will kill though
Funky Papa
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Nikolaj as Horus is about as inspired as hilarious.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Funky Papa
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But seriously, at least make the effort of finding a bunch of Southern Mediterranean-looking bros.
Funky Papa
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The most bewildering thing is that Proyas' parents are Greek and he was born in Egypt. You'd think he would be a tad more in touch.
No they couldn't have. There's more to ethnicities than skin tone.
The Faceless Master
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Elodie Yung!
Because Black Jesus and Elizabeth Taylor had a baby.
TheKaeptain
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Hollywood is a business first. They are in it to make money. Once you realize this you'll stop caring about their dumb epics.
Northern Lights
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That cast is going to give out so much cancer the tickets should have free Medicare with it.
To be fair, they're a pretty shitty business a lot of the time considering a lot of the movies they greenlight, the budgets they give them, and the actors they cast within them.
The Last Emperor
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Edmond Dantès;111790801 said:
Lol. Egyptians knew what was up. Named a god after a ratchet pharoah
Byakuya769
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Hahahahhahahahahahahahah. Damn.
Of course! But genetic studies of y-chromosomal and mtDNA show that common Ancient Egyptians were ethnically closer to modern Palestinian/Lebanese than modern Sub-Saharan African populations. Very many Southern Europeans are indistinguishable from people in the Middle East, because a lot of physical differences between populations are really just stereotypes.
Obviously there were lots of people in ancient Egypt who would fit our definition of Black. King Tut was certainly black, and his father Akhenaten and stepmother Nefertiti may have been as well. But at the same time, the pharaoh Ramesses was described as "red-haired and milk-skinned". Like modern Egypt, Ancient Egypt was a diverse population. Still, I doubt anybody there would have ever encountered a man as white as Nicholas Coster-Waldau.
A quick google search of "Egyptian people" brings up this image:
If the modern and ancient populations were as similar as DNA evidence indicates, the average Ancient Egyptian person would probably have been what we would consider tan, brown, or "olive-skinned", while a significant amount would also have looked African. The cast is fucked up. Even that Brendon Thwaites guy is a little too pasty.
CrazyDogg77
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Soo about these casting choices
The good news is that this generation of movie goers is beginning to care. So it will begin to change.
Who said Ancient Egyptians as a whole looked Sub Saharan African Lol?
90TilInfinity
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Incendiary
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That was my first thought. I love Egyptian mythology, but seriously?
Byakuya769
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Glorious.
That's a theory a lot of historians and Afrocentric scholars have thrown around, mostly to counter the old racist narrative that all Egyptians were pasty white people. The current mainstream scholarship, supported by genetics and archaeology, is that Egypt was a very diverse kingdom with probably the same ethnic or phenotypic makeup of modern Egypt.
Because Hollywood is so concerned with making money, it's unlikely that any movie set outside Europe will have a cast that isn't primarily made up of European white people. In this film about Saudi Arabia, most of the characters were played by European or Turkish actors.
I'm Arab. But point me in the direction of an Arab and/or Arab American movie star that can front line a major Hollywood blockbuster?
Barkley's Justice
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I SEE WHITE PEOPLE
TheKaeptain
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I agree but let's look at it like this. Same a big budget movie full of minority gets greenlit. It bombs because the majority of America isn't willing to see it yet. What's going to happen? They won't even green light anything starring not starring Denzel. Things like this will take time because of the nature of the business. In about 50 (hopefully less) or so years Hollywood will have to pander to a very different audience. That's when you'll see more historically accurate movies.
I understand it sucks.
Lovely Salsa
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There are egytian people that are white, you guys do know this? I remember an interview with a famous egyptian man that was extremly hot and white looking
anyone know his name? Famous in Egypt apparently
surprised me when I saw him, even tho I had no idea what he was saying
anyone know his name? Famous in Egypt apparently
surprised me when I saw him, even tho I had no idea what he was saying
NotTheGuyYouKill
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The new show on FOX looks fun, Hieroglyph. Main character is a white dude, but the rest of the cast looks more mixed.
Of course! Nobody in this thread is denying that. But European-looking people would probably have not made up the majority of the Egyptian population. There would have been some, but most Egyptians would have looked darker. And I really doubt anybody would have looked Scandinavian. There may have been some slaves of European descent, but that's questionable.
Byakuya769
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How do we know this when we never see it attempted?
Even in Egypt, a white looking Egyptian would not refer to himself as a white person. Americans need to stop thinking their ideas on race is universally accepted. This not directed at you, just a general observation that also includes those who also want to apply such thinking on ancient civilizations as well. Black, white, the hell does that even mean in a historical context?
Masquerader
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Geoffrey Rush should have played Set. He would make a very good one. But still, Geoffrey Rush.
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