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Halo 5: Agent Locke is a playable character, comic-con panel on

The Lamonster

The Lamonster

Member
Vast. said:
Da fuck? It's sci-fi, and he's going to end up as a Spartan...you know, just like this other main character of the series.
Calling something Call of Duty is such a lame criticism. As for what makes him interesting...the fact that he's a visible minority and that he'll be chasing/hunting/looking for the Chief is interesting enough for now.
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You're right, it is enough for now. Hopefully there is more to this guy than 343 is letting us know at this point.

I guess what I'm saying is I am hoping there is something more to him beyond being just another Spartan who happens to be looking for the Chief. Maybe he gets horribly disfigured and becomes a cyborg Spartan. Maybe he ends up being a playable antagonist. And is it really even worth mentioning that he's a minority? Do we even know if black is a minority in 2552 or whenever this takes place? I do think it's good to see people of color in starring roles in video games, but I just need something more than "dude who's a Spartan" to care.

Chief and Cortana is all I need, and Arbiter would just be icing on the cake.
 
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Trey

Member
Akai__ said:
But will I have to read the comics, to get the story conpletely?

There is some serious shit going on in the comics, according to HaloGAF.
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You always have to read supplemental material to get the full story.

Otherwise it wouldn't be the full story.
 
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kittens

Unconfirmed Member
Interesting about Locke being playable. I guess the cover art for Halo 5 was a huge indication at that, but confirmation is still cool.
 
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MonkeyNuts

Neo Member
Man, how the hell does a piece of a Halo ring regulate its atmosphere, gravity, temperature etc???

You would think those people would be sucked off into space trying to walk on whats left of the ring... or at least wear an oxygen mask...

I mean didn't all the bits just tumble off into space at the end of halo 1?
 
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User 73706

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Since it's still being asked, reposting technobabble for the new page:

Sub-Zero at a Starbucks said:
Couple of bullet points to clarify for people:

- These guys aren't Spartans... yet. Locke for sure becomes a Spartan-IV by the events of Halo 5, which are voluntarily recruited and not forcefully abducted as kids like the IIs and IIIs. The MJOLNIR armor adds on a few hundred pounds and a bunch of extra height depending on how big the suit is, exactly.

- The Spartans undergo some physical augmentations that affect their actual bodies, for example "carbide ceramic ossification" that makes their bones nigh-unbreakable. On top of this, there's muscular enhancements and reaction time improvements to actually be able to "pilot" the MJOLNIR armor, which is by all accounts a human-sized mech. Without physical augmentation, even the strongest UNSC space marine would crumple up like waste in a trash compactor due to how advanced the power suits are. While some trickery might go on to make sure Locke doesn't have to dope up to look Spartan buff during Nightfall, he's going to get even beefier in-universe when he gets recruited into the Spartan-IV program.

- Human weapons in the Halo universe have become relatively lightweight in contrast to their size for a few reasons: in particular, a lot of their arms are "stripped-down" because the Covenant ate up a lot of their budget in the past. On top of this, while the weapons look huge in human hands, they're meant to be proportional to the size of a Spartan wielding them. Even in past games, the guns look huge in the hands of infantrymen but pretty reasonable when wielded by Spartans.

- The Forerunners had advanced technology pertaining to "natural, not artificial" atmospheric generation and climate control and also specialized in technological compartmentalization to avoid getting trade secrets stolen if anything fell into the hands of their enemies. Chances are the Halo Array, some of their most notable pieces of tech, have the capacity to engage in individualized meteorological stability, even if the ring is fragmented. Note that in-game the metallic techy "motherboard" portion on the outside of the ring repeats and tesselates every so often over the course of the entire circumference of the ring, so it's likely that they produce "pizza-cutter" portions of the ring each with identical feature sets rather than pulling a series circuit and causing the whole ring to malfunction if, say, a single weather generator is destroyed.

- It's entirely possible we could see Covenant stragglers or even sealed-up Flood on Alpha Halo (the ring Locke is on) in this series. A majority of the life there was annihilated when the Autumn blew up, but particularly fanatical Covenant could have gone back when the Halo fragments stabilized in order to look for survivors, relics, etc.

It's an interesting setup, for sure.
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Kinda spoilery question for Frankie:

Is the homicidal element that's being mined a variation of the Precursor-rooted Flood powder that showed up in the Greg Bear trilogy, or is it something new entirely? Some kind of MacGuffinium that's going to allow a new breed of Flood to show up in Halo 5?
 
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Kinyou

Member
Metalingus5150 said:
Say hello to the main character of Halo 6.
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Isn't halo 4-6 meant to be the new trilogy? Chief wont bite the bullet until the end of 6

Majanew said:
More like MS ain't got the balls. It would be a bold move and as long as Master Chief's departure/death was handled correctly, I'd applaud. 343i would have Chief leave before they killed him. If killed, they can't bring him back like that Superman bullshit, though. Superman is DEAD.
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Spartans never die....
 
chugen

chugen

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Xando

Member
Trailer looks awesome!
Im actually more hyped for Nightfall and the Halo series than for Halo 5.
Whats wrong with me, GAF?
 
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Black Mantis

Member
MonkeyNuts said:
Man, how the hell does a piece of a Halo ring regulate its atmosphere, gravity, temperature etc???

You would think those people would be sucked off into space trying to walk on whats left of the ring... or at least wear an oxygen mask...

I mean didn't all the bits just tumble off into space at the end of halo 1?
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It's not THAT particular ring.
 
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_woLf

Member
Huh, this actually does not look half bad.

I didn't mind FUD. Had it's annoyances but it was entertaining for the most part. I'll watch this.
 
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MonkeyNuts

Neo Member
Black Mantis said:
It's not THAT particular ring.
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Agent Locke, the star of Ridley Scott's Halo: Nightfall, is a playable character in Halo 5: Guardians, 343 Industries revealed today during an SDCC panel.

Nightfall is the origin story for Jameson Locke, which leads into his role in Halo 5. Set on a broken piece of the Halo ring from Halo: Combat Evolved, this is the story of Locke growing into a Spartan. 343's Frank O'Connor described Locke's story as "a superhero origin story" that's more closely integrated to Guardians than Forward Unto Dawn was with Halo 4.
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But it is '__'
 
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Major Williams

Member
Sub-Zero at a Starbucks said:
Couple of bullet points to clarify for people:

- These guys aren't Spartans... yet. Locke for sure becomes a Spartan-IV by the events of Halo 5, which are voluntarily recruited and not forcefully abducted as kids like the IIs and IIIs. The MJOLNIR armor adds on a few hundred pounds and a bunch of extra height depending on how big the suit is, exactly.

- The Spartans undergo some physical augmentations that affect their actual bodies, for example "carbide ceramic ossification" that makes their bones nigh-unbreakable. On top of this, there's muscular enhancements and reaction time improvements to actually be able to "pilot" the MJOLNIR armor, which is by all accounts a human-sized mech. Without physical augmentation, even the strongest UNSC space marine would crumple up like waste in a trash compactor due to how advanced the power suits are. While some trickery might go on to make sure Locke doesn't have to dope up to look Spartan buff during Nightfall, he's going to get even beefier in-universe when he gets recruited into the Spartan-IV program.

- Human weapons in the Halo universe have become relatively lightweight in contrast to their size for a few reasons: in particular, a lot of their arms are "stripped-down" because the Covenant ate up a lot of their budget in the past. On top of this, while the weapons look huge in human hands, they're meant to be proportional to the size of a Spartan wielding them. Even in past games, the guns look huge in the hands of infantrymen but pretty reasonable when wielded by Spartans.

- The Forerunners had advanced technology pertaining to "natural, not artificial" atmospheric generation and climate control and also specialized in technological compartmentalization to avoid getting trade secrets stolen if anything fell into the hands of their enemies. Chances are the Halo Array, some of their most notable pieces of tech, have the capacity to engage in individualized meteorological stability, even if the ring is fragmented. Note that in-game the metallic techy "motherboard" portion on the outside of the ring repeats and tesselates every so often over the course of the entire circumference of the ring, so it's likely that they produce "pizza-cutter" portions of the ring each with identical feature sets rather than pulling a series circuit and causing the whole ring to malfunction if, say, a single weather generator is destroyed.

- It's entirely possible we could see Covenant stragglers or even sealed-up Flood on Alpha Halo (the ring Locke is on) in this series. A majority of the life there was annihilated when the Autumn blew up, but particularly fanatical Covenant could have gone back when the Halo fragments stabilized in order to look for survivors, relics, etc.

It's an interesting setup, for sure.
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What's your proof?

The way I understand this is as follows:

Jameson Locke
ONI Agent
Mjolnir Armor
Spartan-like training (not confirmed)

This is no different than an FBI agent getting Ranger-type training and then calling himself a Ranger while acting as an FBI agent.

If Locke reports through the ONI Chain of Command he is no longer a Spartan, he's an agent. There is nothing that's indicated "Once a Spartan always a Spartan" like Marines, so technically calling Locke a Spartan because he's wearing Mjolnir seems a bit off to me, I dunno. His Mjolnir has the ONI logo on it, not the Spartan or USMC logo (like Master Chief).

Just my two cents that kinda irritates me. Bureaucracy is important, especially in the Military.
 
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Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
Sub-Zero at a Starbucks said:
IGN notes it's set on a piece of the ring from Combat Evolved. It's 04A.
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Yep. Gravity and atmosphere dont have to come from centrifugal spin. Control of gravity and slipspace are trivial for the installations even a fragment contains redundant safery systems.. That's not to say its functioning properly..
 
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DJ88

Member
I know this is suuuuper nitpicky, and doesn't really mean anything, but does the halo fragment's proportion look way off in that poster? You can see the ring coming down and connecting to the ground they're standing on, when in the games it's far off past the horizon. I don't know, it looks more like they're standing on a broken piece of Elysium than on a halo ring
 
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Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
Major Williams said:
What's your proof?

The way I understand this is as follows:

Jameson Locke
ONI Agent
Mjolnir Armor
Spartan-like training (not confirmed)

This is no different than an FBI agent getting Ranger-type training and then calling himself a Ranger while acting as an FBI agent.

If Locke reports through the ONI Chain of Command he is no longer a Spartan, he's an agent. There is nothing that's indicated "Once a Spartan always a Spartan" like Marines, so technically calling Locke a Spartan because he's wearing Mjolnir seems a bit off to me, I dunno. His Mjolnir has the ONI logo on it, not the Spartan or USMC logo (like Master Chief).

Just my two cents that kinda irritates me. Bureaucracy is important, especially in the Military.
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Youll find out the bulk of those answers in h5, but see some of the journey in Nightfall.
 
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User 73706

Banned
Major Williams said:
What's your proof?

The way I understand this is as follows:

Jameson Locke
ONI Agent
Mjolnir Armor
Spartan-like training (not confirmed)

This is no different than an FBI agent getting Ranger-type training and then calling himself a Ranger while acting as an FBI agent.

If Locke reports through the ONI Chain of Command he is no longer a Spartan, he's an agent. There is nothing that's indicated "Once a Spartan always a Spartan" like Marines, so technically calling Locke a Spartan because he's wearing Mjolnir seems a bit off to me, I dunno. His Mjolnir has the ONI logo on it, not the Spartan or USMC logo (like Master Chief).

Just my two cents that kinda irritates me. Bureaucracy is important, especially in the Military.
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I have to assume the Spartan designations are more positions than rank, like First Sergeants in the modern-day Air Force. They've got wonky ranking systems all around, if Halo 3's "formalized" variant is anything to go by.

I'd assume he's an agent of sorts, with a Spartan-IV position to go along with whatever rank he ends up being.

Stinkles said:
Yep. Gravity and atmosphere don't have to come from centrifugal spin. Control of gravity and slipspace are trivial for the installations even a fragment contains redundant safery systems.. That's not to say its functioning properly..
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Just how far away have the Installation 04A fragments gotten from their original Combat Evolved location? Are they all still splinters that are staying in relatively the same location thanks to some kind of centralized "slipspace anchor," or are all of the individual fragments off drifting on their own now?
 
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manual4

Banned
Dienekes said:
Agreed. That DRM fiasco E3 Halo CGI trailer was one of the worst things for me though.

Someone at MS/343: "Hey guys, Destiny has space capes! We better put something cloth-like on the Chief for this trailer."
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What the heck are you talking about? Enough with your concern trolling
 
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User 73706

Banned
Stinkles said:
It gun b k
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Locke guns down Chief because without Cortana he's a bk confirmed?

jem0208 said:
Does that mean all the stuff that's going on in the Escalation comics is going to be explained in the game?

Because I haven't been following the comics and from what I've read shit is going down.
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I think he's saying bare minimum, Locke will be fleshed out enough in the main game that Nightfall serves as a satellite piece to further bolster empathy with the character, but won't be practically required to understand "who is this guy" like with Lasky in 4.

PsychoRaven said:
I really hope so Frank. I do. I'm still holding out some hope because Escalation has been good and 4 in spite of it's flaws was decent.
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Why don't you want to play as Locke? From a functional gameplay standpoint going by Halo 4, Chief and Locke (Spartan-II and Spartan-IV) play exactly the same.
 
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