Cindi Mayweather
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KI is in the OP...
Didn't put ki in the op for shame..
KI is in the OP...
Didn't put ki in the op for shame..
watch replays, use training mode, play attentivelyI've been playing fighting games for decades and I'm still a scrub.
Really only true for most Ken players. Ken is what Blanka would play if he was real.8: Don't be a Ken / Ryu / Akuma player. Everyone else hates those people.
Uploading replays.
KI is in the OP...
same here. i can also play on ps3Yo I'm trying to learn 3s and vsav so if anybody wants games on fightcade pls hit me up. I'll play anybody I'm just looking to get bodied and learn stuff.
Oh man this thread. I need this thread. I'm such a fucking scrub.
I play Smash 4. I'm garbage at it at competitive play. I have a lot of bad habits from years and years of playing with the same friends who had no competitive inclinations. My footsies are terrible.
I've been trying to get more competitive experience so I've been going to Smash 4 weeklies a town over. I continually get clapped, but it's helped me narrow down, what I think from play (and from some of the players there), some of my issues.
I'm definitely not approaching all that safely (I use Yoshi). There are times where in my head I know I have to use this approach option (NAir) because it's fast to come out and has fast FAF, I know I can to it cause I lab it and do it in friendlies, and it just...doesn't come out. I know I can do it. My mind wants it. My fingers can. But something doesn't translate, and I do a FAir, don't space it right, eat shield, get grabbed.
Along those lines I don't vary enough. It's been pointed out to me I do the same patterns in terms of combos and follow ups, the same ways to try to make and opening. Always aggressive. I don't know why I feel I have to do this, be the initiator. I guess part of it could be that the main way to punish aggression in Smash 4, to read/reatch to the approach, shield and grab, isn't quite as effective for Yoshi given his slow grab. Again I have the knowledge of it, but my hands are that overcome by habit. I haven't figured out what to do otherwise. Or, again, if I figured it out but do it too much, it gets read.
I think, if I were to try to boil it down, I am not respecting my opponent. I am not appreciating the are a sentient being, and likely fairly smart at this game. I think I can do what I want, I can will them. I can do this with my friends. I can't do this with others. I am not fully thinking, analysing the match. I just think I can do what I want and win. It doesn't work like that, but it's such a hard habit to break for me. There have been moments where I can make it work, and pull together some close matches...and then I get mentally exhausted, and auto-pilot.
Has anyone else had experience with combating this? What sort of mental training have you done? Or is it actually physical (in muscle reaction)? I've read/watched some of the guides, like the FG Primer or Juicebox's video, but I don't know why in being armed with the knowledge I find it so excruciatingly hard to apply.
I could also be completely wrong. Without videos it's kinda tough to convey.
tl;dr how do I stop auto-pilotmaybe?
But I thought a certain famous SF player said he might main it til V comes out.
USF4 tips: don't pick deejay
I can play tomorrow afternoon. Might play on pad to save myself some embarrassment but I haven't touched pad in a while so it may be for naught lol. If you also have a console I can get you in touch with others far better than me and better teachers. Also look out for Fujiwara Tofu Shop on fightcade. A top American player and willing to help out those who ask sometimes.Yo I'm trying to learn 3s and vsav so if anybody wants games on fightcade pls hit me up. I'll play anybody I'm just looking to get bodied and learn stuff.
ken is for men, manly men
Yo I'm trying to learn 3s and vsav so if anybody wants games on fightcade pls hit me up. I'll play anybody I'm just looking to get bodied and learn stuff.
I'm in vsav now if you
want to play a few.
I can play tomorrow afternoon. Might play on pad to save myself some embarrassment but I haven't touched pad in a while so it may be for naught lol. If you also have a console I can get you in touch with others far better than me and better teachers. Also look out for Fujiwara Tofu Shop on fightcade. A top American player and willing to help out those who ask sometimes.
Can't quit my job. =/
I'll live vicariously through Evo vids.
Let's take a look at my Ryu now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRJUklFiulg
Proper spacing, good fireball control, solid neutral, solid footsies, good anti-air, keeping him out of my space, maintaining my position and not backing myself into the corner. I lose because I still have a bit trouble with FB's turning to DP's for reasons I have no idea why and could use advice on helping this not happen during crucial moments, but you get the general idea. Lenin said flat out that every Ryu match I would have won if not for those stray accidental DP's. That's how much I've improved in two months. Much less one month.
That may be the philosophy of old. The new ken philsophy goes like something like this:
@above your growth is incredible. I need to hunker down and really try.
What platform you have tekken Tag?I play USF4, DOA5LR, KOF98, KOF02, Killer Instinct, Melee, and Tekken Tag 2. If anyone's interested on learning the latter three games, I'd be glad to help with some practice games.
I have never been good at traditional fighting games. I'm pretty good at Smash, but I have never really been "competent" at traditional fighters. I've tried to learn, ask for advice, and it still never feels like I'm actually getting better at all. Everyone always says "Don't worry about all the flashy combos" and then I try to just do the basics they talk about, and suddenly what am I getting wrecked by? Flashy combos that I cannot figure out how to do consistently.
I enjoyed BlazBlue and Persona 4 Arena, but I played those with mostly low level-ish players like myself. I bought Guilty Gear Xrd on Steam, but haven't gotten to play it. I'm hoping that purchase wasn't a mistake.
Here's the thing, the majority of people learning are thinking of ways to combo instead of ways of doing damage via pokes or pressing your characters buttons. For instance, sometimes in a match all you get are simple confirms instead of high dmg flashy combos. You take what the opponent gives you. If all you need to do is Cmk into hadouken to win a match you did great. The moment you think " man can wait to try out this 8 hit combo I learned after hours" you're already dead Gif.
People have full time jobs and they still pull through for the love of the game
found the guy who can't beat ken players
flowchart ken has and always will exist
Right, not that I can even pull off the flashy combos anyway. It just gets frustrating to stick to the simple things like that and still lose anyway. It just feels pointless and makes me give up trying to play online in traditional fighting games. Maybe they're just not for me, I dunno.
Also doesn't Arturo play dhalsim? Doesn't Dhalsims play style get hurt more by the things in IV than he benefits from it?
> Pick Rose and then ultra 2
> Focus backdash untill you have ultra
> Activate U2
> Win
Or
> Pick Elena
> Press cr. jab
> Win
Right, not that I can even pull off the flashy combos anyway. It just gets frustrating to stick to the simple things like that and still lose anyway. It just feels pointless and makes me give up trying to play online in traditional fighting games. Maybe they're just not for me, I dunno.
Subbed, I was excited for the SFV beta.. then I lost 10 times in a row and uninstalled. I'm more familiar with arc fighters like Blazblue and Persona 4 Arena but still can't win any online matches on em. Don't know if I'll stick with it but, I really wanna get better at these games.
Subbed, I was excited for the SFV beta.. then I lost 10 times in a row and uninstalled. I'm more familiar with arc fighters like Blazblue and Persona 4 Arena but still can't win any online matches on em. Don't know if I'll stick with it but, I really wanna get better at these games.
I'd like to record some of my matches but the USF4 uploader is awful for me, also I'd like to record some Kof13 and Fightcade. Any tips?
Despite playing good I lost this match in the first round when i dropped several Cmk into super. I lost this match more than the other dude won it, but the aegis reflector is just so sexy. That's the thing about SF3 or rather SF in general one minor mistake that you shrug off during midmatch is the reason you die.
http://youtu.be/bkQr1L261vg
The salt is real
I'd like to record some of my matches but the USF4 uploader is awful for me, also I'd like to record some Kof13 and Fightcade. Any tips?
Oh man this thread. I need this thread. I'm such a fucking scrub.
I play Smash 4. I'm garbage at it at competitive play. I have a lot of bad habits from years and years of playing with the same friends who had no competitive inclinations. My footsies are terrible.
I've been trying to get more competitive experience so I've been going to Smash 4 weeklies a town over. I continually get clapped, but it's helped me narrow down, what I think from play (and from some of the players there), some of my issues.
I'm definitely not approaching all that safely (I use Yoshi). There are times where in my head I know I have to use this approach option (NAir) because it's fast to come out and has fast FAF, I know I can to it cause I lab it and do it in friendlies, and it just...doesn't come out. I know I can do it. My mind wants it. My fingers can. But something doesn't translate, and I do a FAir, don't space it right, eat shield, get grabbed.
Along those lines I don't vary enough. It's been pointed out to me I do the same patterns in terms of combos and follow ups, the same ways to try to make and opening. Always aggressive. I don't know why I feel I have to do this, be the initiator. I guess part of it could be that the main way to punish aggression in Smash 4, to read/reatch to the approach, shield and grab, isn't quite as effective for Yoshi given his slow grab. Again I have the knowledge of it, but my hands are that overcome by habit. I haven't figured out what to do otherwise. Or, again, if I figured it out but do it too much, it gets read.
I think, if I were to try to boil it down, I am not respecting my opponent. I am not appreciating the are a sentient being, and likely fairly smart at this game. I think I can do what I want, I can will them. I can do this with my friends. I can't do this with others. I am not fully thinking, analysing the match. I just think I can do what I want and win. It doesn't work like that, but it's such a hard habit to break for me. There have been moments where I can make it work, and pull together some close matches...and then I get mentally exhausted, and auto-pilot.
Has anyone else had experience with combating this? What sort of mental training have you done? Or is it actually physical (in muscle reaction)? I've read/watched some of the guides, like the FG Primer or Juicebox's video, but I don't know why in being armed with the knowledge I find it so excruciatingly hard to apply.
I could also be completely wrong. Without videos it's kinda tough to convey.
tl;dr how do I stop auto-pilotmaybe?
What kind of training are you doing?
A lot of people think that we should always be fighting, but when we're trying to learn the core fundamentals of a game, most of our time shouldn't be fighting but in training mode.
I say break away from fighting. If you do fight, use it to gather info on your own tendencies. Does Smash 4 have a feature that automatically saves replays like SFIV?
Let's be scrubs together. Let's try and push each other, I'm in a similar place as you right now. Maybe then we can push out of Scrub hell.
2) In conjunction with the above, literally tell yourself (once you've discovered bad habits or stuff that is "wrong") not to do whatever it is. For myself, when I was playing Smash before I met anyone semi-competitive I used to roll quite a lot (this is usually one of the common bad habits people who start taking Smash to a comp. level have in general) but what I did to stop myself from rolling so much was literally setting it as a goal to stop rolling. And to reach that goal I did a "training regimen" where I told myself in matches (while playing mentally) "don't roll, don't roll" and slowly I'd learn what would be better to do instead of a roll. In this case, it was usually better to jump in place or dash away or some other option (depending on the situation).
This was quite a long time ago (like 2005-2006 lool), though, and obviously now I only roll when it's absolutely necessary (or... an accident lol).
3) Since you go to weeklies, why don't you try asking the people you lose against about the matches you played? Ask them what they see as bad habits. A lot of people at tournaments are always willing to help and hey, you may even get a few casuals in with them where they're pointing out the bad habits or poor decision making or about the auto-piloting you do. Or, ask them about what you could do differently to fix your problems you're having.
I'd assume you've done this but I didn't see it mentioned anywhere in the post so just in case you hadn't... definitely do the above.
That's about all I can say without playing you specifically or seeing any vids.
Consider the position I was in. I haven't played dozens of hours of SFIV like all the people I got matched against presumably did. The SFV beta (unless they've changed it since I first tried it) only had online play and a few seconds of training between matches. I had no time to practice anything. My mistake was going in blind to something that was pretty unwelcoming to noobs like me.Then you really have to power through and have some self reflection on why you think you lost. Try to analyze what you did wrong and what you might do differently next time.