We'll get a new 3D Mario by the end of 2017 or early 2018. 2007 had Galaxy and 2013 had 3D World.
Honestly, I want Sunshine 2 instead of Galaxy 3.
I think we're due for a non-sequel 3D Mario on consoles.
We'll get a new 3D Mario by the end of 2017 or early 2018. 2007 had Galaxy and 2013 had 3D World.
Honestly, I want Sunshine 2 instead of Galaxy 3.
Right got to see where they take 2D Mario next now that we live in a world were Super Mario Maker happened.
Its like Melee. It wasn't ready for GC launch but was ready a few months later. So 4 months can in fact make a lot of difference in that regard.
Sure.
If most devs don't even possess the Devkits..
AMD's Polaris will be 14nm
Melee came out like two weeks after the GameCube launched, not a few months
For the people on the third party games bandwagon for Nintendo systems: March launch probably means a bunch of Q4 2016 ports, which people have played already, so only going to appeal to the Nintendo-only crowd - well, the minuscule number that's willing to buy non Nintendo titles.
For the people on the third party games bandwagon for Nintendo systems: March launch probably means a bunch of Q4 2016 ports, which people have played already, so only going to appeal to the Nintendo-only crowd - well, the minuscule number that's willing to buy non Nintendo titles.
Game design, software and electrical engineering aren't trivial matters. Also, logistics on the scale of millions with several different vendors isn't a walk in the park either.
Every generation, Satoru Iwata tells investors, gamers, and retailers that they will avoid major software droughts because these can kill a platforms momentum after launch. Satoru Iwata never learns from anything. He always says he has learned from past mistakes, but his actions never show it. Instead, every single generation, all we get from him is a whole bunch of Please understand and I apologize for the inconvenience.
Heres some examples.
Would anyone accept a Nintendo console being released without at least two-three Nintendo first-party exclusives or second-party. With just a slew of third-party ports.
Don't believe the 'no games' excuse. There's no way they'd miss holiday unless there was some major problem that wasn't just games.
The mere title of this thread is worrying me. So, does this mean that 3rd parties are not onboard? I dunno, but a launch in fall of 2016 with newest Fifa, COD, Deus Ex port, ... + one Nintendo game would've been a great launch line-up. No, I'm calling BS on this one. If the 3rd party situtation doesn't change, it's pretty easy to predict what NX's library will look like in 2019. Just take the number of Nintendo's first party studios. Some of them are working on games that will take them 4-5 years to finish (hello Zelda).
THIS time it'll be different
THIS time there won't be droughts
seriously guys
you gotta believe me
And, why would it entice anyone to jump over to the NX when those 3rd party titles would be out 3-4 months before launch on the competitor consoles? During the holidays, people are making choices as to what console to get. It would be too late for NX.
Makes no sense to me as to what Nintendo is doing, might as well just try to launch next holiday season at this point.
imo they already fucked up the launch of the console. Even more so now that it will be a no-show at E3.
And, why would it entice anyone to jump over to the NX when those 3rd party titles would be out 3-4 months before launch on the competitor consoles? During the holidays, people are making choices as to what console to get. It would be too late for NX.
Makes no sense to me as to what Nintendo is doing, might as well just try to launch next holiday season at this point.
imo they already fucked up the launch of the console. Even more so now that it will be a no-show at E3.
Exactly. March date isn't what's troubling. You're telling me you can't show what the console is or ANY of the games are in June? But can a couple months later?If the games aren't ready, you really have to wonder what most of their teams have been doing since early 2014. Not showing any of them at E3 is really concerning.
That's all good, of course games need to be amazing at launch but... no E3 reveal?? Is the NX just not ready either as a concept either? Don't you have already some games or demos to show off what the system will be and let people know that they should perhaps hold on to their wallets this holiday season because something awesome is coming in March??
That's all good, of course games need to be amazing at launch but... no E3 reveal?? Is the NX just not ready either as a concept either? Don't you have already some games or demos to show off what the system will be and let people know that they should perhaps hold on to their wallets this holiday season because something awesome is coming in March??
Seriously, I'm really worried for Nintendo, they're going to fuck this up.
My take on the situation is that Nintendo is not confident in their own concept and has just gone back to probably reconsider a bit their ideas (hopefully making it higher spec)
I think Nintendo has largely excepted that third party ports just aren't relevant to them. The big AAA companies have little interest in supporting Nintendo, and a lot of Nintendo owners have no interest in the shooters, sports sims etc. they focus on and a lot of others prefer playing those on the other consoles they own where their friends are playing online etc.
To me the whole rumored unified platform is them trying to find away to put out enough first party games to make their hardware more compelling to more people vs. having to support completely separate portable and console platforms. The NX may also have some gimmick they hope will entice some third parties to make exclusives for--like with the Wii and it's motion controls.
But ports of games like CoD, Madden, Fifa etc.? I just don't think their are many Nintendo only gamers who really care about those games. They're Nintendo only as they don't like those games (or they wouldn't be Nintendo only as Nintendo hasn't gotten many ports of those flagship AAA games for a long time now). So you just have a small market of people who want to just have a Nintendo console and play some of those games--and that's probably not enough to warrant the effort of third parties to port those games.
This isn't a good thing, in my opinion. They miss the boat with Final Fantasy XV (should they actually get some proper 3rd party support) or any other game. Persona 5 too if that comes out this year and if those were to come with NX.
Yes, I'm 100% with you, but let's elaborate on this one.
1. 3rd party games are the driving force behind the console business right now. Fact!
Yes, Sony got away 2 holidays without releasing 1st party exclusive games and is still increasing the gap. GTA, COD, FIFA, Madden, Destiny and so on are the true stars of console gaming - not Halo, Bloodborne, Uncharted, Gears. These are the facts supported by software sales numbers. So, if Nintendo thinks that 3rd party games are not important for them as a hardware plattform holder, they really should consider dropping the plattform altogether, they're simply incompetent at what they're doing, because they neglect the facts. A doctor, a lawyer, an engineer, a physician who simply denies recent advancements and facts in his field of science will most likely go out of business. Period.
2. A holiday 2016 launch could have worked greatly as a one time opportunity for improving 3rd party relationships. I often hear that one reason for the bad 3rd party relationship is that Nintendo owner's tend to buy Nintendo games and not 3rd party games. If Nintendo came up with a concept, a strict release schedule where major 3rd party games don't collide with 1st party releases, we would be able to say if this was true or not. This is at least a viable idea to reboot 3rd party relations. They have to start somewhere but doing the same shit over and over again is just pathetic.
BTW, I think some of us have way too high expectations regarding Nintendo's status/position in the console business, which may come from distorted perception of time. Nintendo has dominated the console market for 10 years while Sony has been dominating the console market for almost 20 years now. Talking about Nintendo's former glory is like talking about a sports club who has dominated the competition in the 1960s and winning a championship in recent time.
I don't believe that. At least not totally. Has the whole EPD been working on Zelda for the last 3 years?
I think their R&D on NX is fucked and they need more time to make it work.
That was a boss fight from Twilight Princess, redone with modern (for the time) rendering techniques.Is this the same Zelda they showed before the Wii U launch, the trailer with the giant spider?
Lol come on man. Those were never going to hit the NX.
That was a boss fight from Twilight Princess, redone with modern (for the time) rendering techniques.
It's funny how people are:Wii U has no games! What! My money is going to PSVR, PS4K!
Nintendo misses the holiday for NX for obvious reasons. Like Nintendo wants to intentionally miss the holiday....
Seems Nintendo really learned this time and don't wanna rush the launch of a new console and make sure there are enough (quality) games day one.
But no matter what Nintendo does, they always loses.
The Japanese & indies will probably be there, not so much the western third parties (their target audience left Nintendo a long time ago). And if there's a majority of games shared between the console & handheld, droughts won't be anywhere near as bad as before.Unless they have a better relationship with third parties then we will likely see software droughts like the Wii U had, if that's the case, same mistakes as last time. I hope the third party situation is a lot better this time around
I don't really buy it?
Hardware delays are usually because of hardware.