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[orthodoxy1095]

Why not? In my country, you could name your kid whatever you want.

gee, I wonder

I don't know if it was mentioned earlier in the thread but Jihad is somewhat of a common name around these parts, I know quite a few people who have it.

I would guess that it's not that commonly used wherever the CS reps were. Does raise an interesting question of how they vet these names at all really, considering accounting for different languages, meanings, intents, etc.

 

[Iorv3th]

I remember that thing people were paying with the Facebook user claiming his name was really Phuc Dat Bich or something, guy even Photoshoped his id.

 

[privitsan02]

Why not? In my country, you could name your kid whatever you want.

I think he's being sarcastic to my comment, however it is a frowned upon name in several locations in Europe. I also didn't say banning the name, just that parents should look at the best interest of the child rather than trying to prove a political point through the child as a conduit. Name your kid whatever you want, but be aware of the issues that your child might face in the future.

Best wishes.

 

[DonMigs85]

Did someone already tweet this to yosp or anything?

 

[Warewolf]

In this new exciting episode of "I didn't read the OP". He's had it for many years and why should they completely ignore the original and actual meaning of the name?

It's as weak as saying people named Jeffrey are associating themselves with Jeffrey Dahmer.

This whole thing seems like an unintentional clusterfuck which I'm sure has no more malice than general corporate ignorance but to be fair; Jeffrey isn't the sensitive part of your example.

I would be pretty grossed out if someone chose to go by iDahmer for their online presence. I have never encountered that name outside of references to a serial killer so my line of thinking would assume that is who that person is naming themselves after, not their actual last name. Would I be wrong? Yes. Is it an understandable mistake? Absolutely.

If someone's last name is Vader and they chose to go by iVader for their online presence you'd be damn skippy I'd assume he meant the Star Wars character first.

 

[ScientificPizza]

*Question: I didn't read all 9 pages, but I did check the reddit. Are we sure this isn't just a huge troll? I haven't seen a screenshot or any proof that this guy's story is actually true. I hope it's not, terrible response by Sony if true.

He posted his interactions with Sony as well as a copy of his passport (now removed from reddit) to prove that it's actually his name. There's been no real reason to second guess him. Nothing in his story is particularly outlandish.

 

[ZarKryn7]

Wow. Just wow.

Shawn Layden has Twitter now so we should probably let him know about this.

 

[Ottobit]

Seems like he knows it's 2016 and the meaning of his name can be interpreted in a different way. Probably should have used that knowledge when picking his user name. Sony should at the very least allow a name change so that he doesn't lose all the stuff tied to his account.

that is the dumbest fucking thing anyone could have said in response to this. smh. thats his name, he has a right to own it and be proud of it, and use it wherever he want. swear some people lack basic common sense on here.

 

[TheYanger]

People defending this are insane. Even if he made that name for the lulz, it's not a blatantly offensive name, it's not a slur, it's a name that you can see why they would want to change it, but to wait ten fucking years and then just ban it outright? That's the worst possible response. The fact that they can't even change a name without it fucking things up really puts the impetus on them to make sure that this shit is done as sparingly as possible, and that tehy have better checks in place to begin with.

It's not like he suddenly broke a rule, they let him spend presumably hundreds (at least) of dollars on this account first and then retroactively decide to fuck him.

 

[Warewolf]

I would be curious to know the timeline on this. Sometimes administrative and technical account support like this can take a couple of days to get to the right department and clear up.

Also not surprised Overwatch was the game that caused him to get banned. People get straight vindictive playing that game.

 

[A Link to the Past]

if i were him i'd send a bill to his parents and be done with it


unfortunate roll of the dice as names go, but probably don't use your name as a username if it's Jihad or the like 5 years or so after an international tragedy where your name is plastered all over all media with negative connotations

just because nothing happened until now doesn't mean anything. you can drive to work at 90 mph everyday and 9 times out of 10 you won't get a ticket, but the one time you do, don't cry about it.

Or how about Sony be made responsible for ensuring that certain offensive words are auto-flagged. It's a more accurate comparison to say that he was charged for driving 90 MPH in a 70 MPH zone where no indicators existed whatsoever to establish that it's illegal to go too fast.

 

[Bgamer90]

Some of the replies in this thread are sad. Wow.

 

[TheBeast]

He posted his interactions with Sony as well as a copy of his passport (now removed from reddit) to prove that it's actually his name. There's been no real reason to second guess him. Nothing in his story is particularly outlandish.

I'm just playing Devil's advocate here...

- I've seen response emails from Sony, but without the addressee included, so it could literally be a ban email to anyone sent at anytime.
- The email's from Sony do not reference his name, so it's literally his word we're basing this outrage on right now.
- Trolls can be amazing elaborate in their work. If it were an old Gaf account I might be more convinced, though it is a 4 year old Reddit account... so perhaps there is some merit there.

I don't doubt his name is real, as I said previously I support his right to his own name and I respect the meaning of his name in the historical context (i.e.: I'm on his side even if we're being trolled)

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

That's shitty as hell. Sony really has imho the worst customer support of the big three.

 

[rpmurphy]

Sucks for the guy. This wouldn't be so much of an issue if Sony would allow for PSN name changes, if they had a better banned word list in the first place, or if they could just use some common sense and see that this isn't the user trying to bypass the banned word list.

 

[DieAntwoord]

That's shitty as hell. Sony really has imho the worst customer support of the big three.

This is really starting to make me feel better about possibly selling my PS4. Jesus this is awful.

 

[PodcastFips]

I see how some reps would find "Jihad" as his tag offensive (it already had a bad meaning back when he created his account), but after providing proof that it's his real name they should have lifted the ban.

 

[Hermii]

Who the hell calls their son "jihad"

 

[MaxwellParrish]

People defending this are insane. Even if he made that name for the lulz, it's not a blatantly offensive name, it's not a slur, it's a name that you can see why they would want to change it, but to wait ten fucking years and then just ban it outright? That's the worst possible response. The fact that they can't even change a name without it fucking things up really puts the impetus on them to make sure that this shit is done as sparingly as possible, and that tehy have better checks in place to begin with.

It's not like he suddenly broke a rule, they let him spend presumably hundreds (at least) of dollars on this account first and then retroactively decide to fuck him.

Pretty much this. I could understand the desire for Sony to make him change his username even if it was already approved, but to bermanent banned him is something out of this world

 

[Pandy]

How so?

People seem to do pretty well when they call up Sony support, although online support can give you the runaround

Nope, same useless people on the phone as online. (In Europe anyway.)

 

[Mailenstein]

I'm German and my wife is Japanese. This is one of her kimono's:

I think it wouldn't go well if she were about to wear that in my hometown of Munich.


On topic, how stupid must someone be to ban just because of the online handle. Can't they like take a minute and check the real name/CC information? Jeez..

 

[ForsakenLotus]

I mean it sucks, but real name or not that isn't a username that is acceptable, especially given the current climate. He shouldn't have to lose all of his digitally bought games and trophies, so hopefully this is the impetus for Sony to just allow people to change their names - even if it starts out being pretty restrictive to prevent server/friend's list issues.

 

[texhnolyze]

This is depressing and the defense for Sony is even more depressing.

 

[pyros]

It's a Buddhist sign in Asia. I still see them in temples randomly with dots in-between the lines, means infinity or something. It is not called a swasticka though.

Actually they stole the name also, in Sanskrit it's called a svastika.

 

[jorma]

Seems blatantly racist, if you take Jihads version of events at face value (and i don't see anything outlandish in his claims).

I don't really get why Jihad should be judged offensive either. Would they ban "crusader" too?

 

[lupinko]

Who the hell calls their son "jihad"

People of the Muslim faith or those from the Middle East? It's a just name.

 

[klier]

People of the Muslim faith or those from the Middle East? It's a just name.

Yeah.....

Not anymore 'just a name' I would say. And not at all strange he is banned.

iJihad. Come one now....Sony should let him change names though, as it's apparently not meant to be harmful.

 

[Trace]

Yeah.....

Not anymore 'just a name' I would say. And not at all strange he is banned.

iJihad. Come one now....

I might understand your sentiments if someone was naming a son today, but 26 years ago we weren't all afraid of terrorists under our doormats and bombs in our cars. Sony should give him a chance to change it, no reason to permaban it with no recourse.

 

[tareqsalah1]

Dont know if it is relevant but i would like to explain the word jihad since most westerners associate it with terrorism

Jihad means to be resilient against a certain struggle.

If u r fat and have been trying to lose weight for years you are in johad against obesity.

If u r poor and have been working towards success you are in johad against poverty.

So the name initself is a noble name, shame it has been tainted by the extremests.

 

[rpmurphy]

It's a Buddhist sign in Asia. I still see them in temples randomly with dots in-between the lines, means infinity or something. It is not called a swasticka though.

It's still used in Japan as map markings for Buddhist temples.

 

[artsi]

Holy shit, fix this now Sony.

It's sad that people need to seek help from social media because a huge company stonewalls them. Not much one can do in that position.

 

[PtM]

Wow. Just wow.

Shawn Layden has Twitter now so we should probably let him know about this.

I thought it was a parody account.

 

[NeoRaider]

Sue them tbh.

 

[Chronospherics]

Yet my friend who thought it was funny to call himself Talibunny in 2007 has not yet been banned or asked to change his name.

Nice work Sony.

If you actually search PSN, there are actually thousands of people with Jihad in their name. JihadiJohn69, hell of a guy! Or how about JihadJoe_666? Haha.

 

[balohna]

Seems like he knows it's 2016 and the meaning of his name can be interpreted in a different way. Probably should have used that knowledge when picking his user name. Sony should at the very least allow a name change so that he doesn't lose all the stuff tied to his account.

No way, it's his fucking name. He should be able to use it.

 

[miyuru]

They should also ban any CC payments from someone with that name then.

The whole thing is absurd. Those advocating that he should be allowed to change his username are missing the entire point. It's his name, he (especially) should be able to use it. And furthermore anyone should be able to use it IMO, but that's another can of worms.

 

[Tecnniqe]

Lolwat

Years old account banned out of nowhere because of that?

What the?

Not to mention if you made something on their service 10 years ago and now your username is considered "bad and violation of ToS" you got 0 ways to change it BEFORE getting banned which apparently means 50/50.



Sony support is disgusting and their whole PSN system is horrible too compared to their competitors.

 

[The Dutch Slayer]

Sony should be given more flak for this.

I understood this reference.gif

Really hope they make this right for the guy.

 

[Vamp]

When sony bans your account can you still play your games offline or you lose access to them completely?
But yeah they should allow him to change the name.

 

[Arxisz]

This is absolutely disgraceful behaviour by Sony. Highly disappointed. They better fix this fast.

 

[JaseC]

When sony bans your account can you still play your games offline or you lose access to them completely?
But yeah they should allow him to change the name.

I think that depends on whether or not the console has been online since the ban was imposed (it stands to reason that if the licence information hasn't been updated, then the games will remain playable, unless the licence information expires at some point and needs to be updated). Sony most definitely doesn't have account restriction system in place a la Origin/Steam, where "bans" essentially just prevent you from adding games to your account instead of turning your account into the digital equivalent of a paperweight. E.g.:

(Not my screenshot.)

 

[Daft Punk]

Lolwat

Years old account banned out of nowhere because of that?

What the?

Not to mention if you made something on their service 10 years ago and now your username is considered "bad and violation of ToS" you got 0 ways to change it BEFORE getting banned which apparently means 50/50.



Sony support is disgusting and their whole PSN system is horrible too compared to their competitors.

Lol tell us how you really feel.

 

[dumbo]

I'm not really sure what the argument is. If your name was 'F***face" then you would be banned from using it in an online game. Nothing personal, but the name is offensive, and the owner of the network has every right to ban you.

If Sony consider 'jihad' a bad name (and it's only really interpreted one way in much of the West) then they have every right to ban that name.

Obviously, it seems logical to let the guy change his account name.. but that does assume that this is the full story.

 

[Tecnniqe]

Lol tell us how you really feel.

About which part? Cause it seems pretty clear to me.

 

[The Last Lombax]

When sony bans your account can you still play your games offline or you lose access to them completely?

He loses access to his games completely
https://twitter.com/iJihad/status/747248918317121536

 

[Joey Ravn]

Who the hell calls their son "jihad"

Yeah.....

Not anymore 'just a name' I would say. And not at all strange he is banned.

iJihad. Come one now....Sony should let him change names though, as it's apparently not meant to be harmful.

Well, you see, there were 10 pages of discussion before you joine the conversation. And, as you would expect, this had been already discussed before you decided to bring up this point. I would suggest you read the whole thread if you are really interested in the matter. But I fear you're dead set on your opinions and will not want to hear the other side of the argument.

 

[Justinh]

99% sure it erases trophies though.

Hopefully he gets all the games and stuff he bought on account, and maybe he wouldn't care much about the trophies then.

I wanna say that it's terrible that Sony can't "fix" their system to allow for name changes (it sounds complicated, though. He should totally change his name to "ButtSmasher." I hear it's not taken) Maybe it'd be better if they just unbanned him though, without a name change. Maybe it'd help people realize that it is a real name and doesn't always mean that thing to which it is more attributed these days in the west. I mean... it's the dude's name!

 

[Chronospherics]

I'm not really sure what the argument is. If your name was 'F***face" then you would be banned from using it in an online game. Nothing personal, but the name is offensive, and the owner of the network has every right to ban you.

If Sony consider 'jihad' a bad name (and it's only really interpreted one way in much of the West) then they have every to ban that name.

Obviously, it seems logical to let the guy change his account name.. but that does assume that this is the full story.

Jihad isn't an entirely uncommon muslim name, and has been for a long time. It is absolutely not comparable to calling yourself something like you suggested, because there is a distinct difference in intent there.

I really do not feel that they should have to change their name, wherever they want to represent it.

 

[PtM]

No way, it's his fucking name. He should be able to use it.

Gaylords might disagree.

 

[ScientificPizza]

I'm just playing Devil's advocate here...

- I've seen response emails from Sony, but without the addressee included, so it could literally be a ban email to anyone sent at anytime.
- The email's from Sony do not reference his name, so it's literally his word we're basing this outrage on right now.
- Trolls can be amazing elaborate in their work. If it were an old Gaf account I might be more convinced, though it is a 4 year old Reddit account... so perhaps there is some merit there.

I don't doubt his name is real, as I said previously I support his right to his own name and I respect the meaning of his name in the historical context (i.e.: I'm on his side even if we're being trolled)

I don't need like thirty pages of documentation to believe someone's story. The internet can be shitty place, but constantly second guessing everything anyone says, especially when they seem to be completely legitimate grievances, only serves to make it shittier.