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COMICS! |OT| July 2016. Everyone Loves A Hero, Everyone Loves You

TheFlow

Banned
but why?

even as someone who reads a lot, I can't imagine reading that much stuff and retaining any of it or enjoying it

its not a hard challenge lol.. then again no one reads comics around here so eh
Deadly Hands Omnibus var.
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tim1138

Member
Bro, that's only like 18 issues a week. That's easy. I've read nearly that much in one day a few times this year.

Again, no where did I say it was a hard challenge, all I said is it would increase the likelihood of stuff running together. On top of whatever comics I'm reading I also read between 120-150 books a year, so I don't think it's a difficult challenge at all.
 

TheFlow

Banned
Again, no where did I say it was a hard challenge, all I said is it would increase the likelihood of stuff running together. On top of whatever comics I'm reading I also read between 120-150 books a year, so I don't think it's a difficult challenge at all.
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you read that many books but complain about reading 1000 issues of comics booiii you petty.
 

VanWinkle

Member
Again, no where did I say it was a hard challenge, all I said is it would increase the likelihood of stuff running together. On top of whatever comics I'm reading I also read between 120-150 books a year, so I don't think it's a difficult challenge at all.

I'm not saying you think it's a DIFFICULT challenge, but you basically said it would be hard to read that much while still retaining/enjoying it. I don't think that's really the case. That's like reading three 6-issue volumes a week, which doesn't seem too crazy.

Now that I think about it, maybe you were talking about it more in single issue format instead of collected edition format (basically all I read), in which case I would agree with you. I couldn't imagine pulling 18 titles a week and reading all of them.
 

BrightLightLava

Unconfirmed Member
I'm now 3/5ths of the way through the Clone Wars Epics that were on sale on cmx. I don't get what all the hate is for yet. It's a bit emo and overwritten, but I still find it charming in it's over the top 90s-ness. Scarlet Spider has pouches on his ankles for cripessake. What's not to love about that.

Also, it's hilarious to see what was clearly once a foil cover reprinted in a non-foil way.
 
Speaking about catching up with Marvel, I wonder how Mr.Luchador's reading is going. Last I remember, I think he made it past 1000 issues.

Thanks for asking! I wrote an update in the last OT, but it didn't get any replies so I wasn't sure if people were still interested. So I haven't updated since then. I'm really enjoying the transition from the 60s to the 70s though, especially as something strange happened.



There were back-to-back issues of X-Men that were REALLY worthwhile reading, which had never happened in the Reading Order up until this point. Roy Thomas and Neale Adams were on fire, and it might just be my first pairing I look out for (sadly it's short lived as X-Men is now just re-issues for 5 years).
Basically it was just a well written, well drawn multi-issue story that lead to the return of Professor X, a classic Angel Costume and Havoc; while at the same time introducing Sauron! Amazing.

Sadly while X-Men was on the upturn a lot of other issues are on the downturn.

Iron Man is largely missable and at times just plain lazy. It doesn't felt like it's progressed as a book at all in the 5/6 years it's been going, while Tony Stark's development is really thin too. He's just stuck in a rut and may as well still be fighting Communism. There was a brief moment of goodness with the return of The Mandarain who was convinced he had discovered Tony Stark was Iron Man... but a Life Model Decoy later and he was no longer convinced.

Things are looking slightly better though as there's been a callback to the LMD in the current issue I'm reading, which sees the LMD takeover Tony Stark's identity!

<-- this is the next issue in the order I have to read. 1085 deep! (It's only taken 18 months).

I haven't enjoyed Silver Surfer since they humanised him with his backstory. They took away all the mystery of the character too soon, and couldn't resist the whole 'love arch' injection that every other person in the Marvel Universe has. Also his stories are too samey, which wouldn't be a problem if they weren't just like Hulk stories where he appears, people misunderstand his motives and suddenly have to fight him.
In fact things are so bad Silver Surfer is fighting horror movie castoffs


Thor has swapped places with the Fantastic Four in regards to Cosmic Events, as he's been fighting Galactus, and the last issue of Thor I read had Galactus sit Thor down while he shared his life story. It was pretty interesting seeing a bit of background into Galactus.

Captain America has been a bit trippy. Red Skull returned with the Cosmic Cube and swapped bodies with Cap, only for MODOK to decide that nobody should have the Cosmic Cube if MODOK can't have it. So MODOK built a device to remove all the power from the Cosmic Cube... just like that. Why not.

Speaking of out of the blue... the Avengers. Everything was pretty run of the mill, even if Hawkeye is still Goliath when all of a sudden 'We've discovered Adamantium!'. ooooh nice!
Then The Vision went a bit mental, stole it and rebuilt Ultron... only to then defeat Ultron. The Vision went batshit insane during this arch, it was pretty creepy. He was walking through people, dragging them into his cold lifeless form and generally being evil. I'm suddenly very interested in The Vision. Ultron and his Scooter not so much.


Daredevil has continued to be terrible but then all of sudden Karen Page has a story arch and the next thing you know he's VOLUNTARILY removed his mask to reveal his identity to her. I mean he has to tell it's not Mike at first, but I thought that was a pretty big moment - even if the cover gave it away. I'm still not excited for Daredevil though.


Sadly it's Captain Marvel that has suffered the most since the last update. Despite him getting new powers, and a new costume and his famous Naga-Bands he's been totally hampered by being trapped in Rick Jones' body. Rick Jones. Rick. Jones.
Why do Marvel insist on trying to make Rick Jones a thing - first Hulk, then Teen Brigade, then as Bucky v2 and now as Captain Marvel's body. Why.

My Fave Five Heroes since last update

5. Spiderman
4. Black Panther
3. Cyclops (I never thought I'd admit to this)
2. Hulk
1. Thor

anybody doing the 1000 issue challenge? I am tempted but don't feel like writing down everything.

I think I nearly unknowingly did this!
 

JTripper

Member
Well shit B&R Eternal vol 2 and Vision vol. 1 are available on IST. Time to dump more money from wherever I can find it.
 

TheFlow

Banned
Thanks for asking! I wrote an update in the last OT, but it didn't get any replies so I wasn't sure if people were still interested. So I haven't updated since then. I'm really enjoying the transition from the 60s to the 70s though, especially as something strange happened.




There were back-to-back issues of X-Men that were REALLY worthwhile reading, which had never happened in the Reading Order up until this point. Roy Thomas and Neale Adams were on fire, and it might just be my first pairing I look out for (sadly it's short lived as X-Men is now just re-issues for 5 years).
Basically it was just a well written, well drawn multi-issue story that lead to the return of Professor X, a classic Angel Costume and Havoc; while at the same time introducing Sauron! Amazing.

Sadly while X-Men was on the upturn a lot of other issues are on the downturn.

Iron Man is largely missable and at times just plain lazy. It doesn't felt like it's progressed as a book at all in the 5/6 years it's been going, while Tony Stark's development is really thin too. He's just stuck in a rut and may as well still be fighting Communism. There was a brief moment of goodness with the return of The Mandarain who was convinced he had discovered Tony Stark was Iron Man... but a Life Model Decoy later and he was no longer convinced.

Things are looking slightly better though as there's been a callback to the LMD in the current issue I'm reading, which sees the LMD takeover Tony Stark's identity!

<-- this is the next issue in the order I have to read. 1085 deep! (It's only taken 18 months).

I haven't enjoyed Silver Surfer since they humanised him with his backstory. They took away all the mystery of the character too soon, and couldn't resist the whole 'love arch' injection that every other person in the Marvel Universe has. Also his stories are too samey, which wouldn't be a problem if they weren't just like Hulk stories where he appears, people misunderstand his motives and suddenly have to fight him.
In fact things are so bad Silver Surfer is fighting horror movie castoffs



Thor has swapped places with the Fantastic Four in regards to Cosmic Events, as he's been fighting Galactus, and the last issue of Thor I read had Galactus sit Thor down while he shared his life story. It was pretty interesting seeing a bit of background into Galactus.

Captain America has been a bit trippy. Red Skull returned with the Cosmic Cube and swapped bodies with Cap, only for MODOK to decide that nobody should have the Cosmic Cube if MODOK can't have it. So MODOK built a device to remove all the power from the Cosmic Cube... just like that. Why not.

Speaking of out of the blue... the Avengers. Everything was pretty run of the mill, even if Hawkeye is still Goliath when all of a sudden 'We've discovered Adamantium!'. ooooh nice!
Then The Vision went a bit mental, stole it and rebuilt Ultron... only to then defeat Ultron. The Vision went batshit insane during this arch, it was pretty creepy. He was walking through people, dragging them into his cold lifeless form and generally being evil. I'm suddenly very interested in The Vision. Ultron and his Scooter not so much.



Daredevil has continued to be terrible but then all of sudden Karen Page has a story arch and the next thing you know he's VOLUNTARILY removed his mask to reveal his identity to her. I mean he has to tell it's not Mike at first, but I thought that was a pretty big moment - even if the cover gave it away. I'm still not excited for Daredevil though.



Sadly it's Captain Marvel that has suffered the most since the last update. Despite him getting new powers, and a new costume and his famous Naga-Bands he's been totally hampered by being trapped in Rick Jones' body. Rick Jones. Rick. Jones.
Why do Marvel insist on trying to make Rick Jones a thing - first Hulk, then Teen Brigade, then as Bucky v2 and now as Captain Marvel's body. Why.

My Fave Five Heroes since last update

5. Spiderman
4. Black Panther
3. Cyclops (I never thought I'd admit to this)
2. Hulk
1. Thor



I think I nearly unknowingly did this!
You are going to hit 3k issues by new year I can feel it.

You are a legend for reading so many of those old school issues.
 

Brian Fellows

Pete Carroll Owns Me
My buys for the month of July. Not a great month for cool covers though.


THE BEAUTY #9
BIRTHRIGHT #17
BLACK ROAD #4
BLACK SCIENCE #22
CHEW #56
DRIFTER #13
EAST OF WEST #28
THE FIX #4
HORIZON #1
THE HUNT #1
I HATE FAIRYLAND #7
LAZARUS #23
MANIFEST DESTINY #21

NAILBITER #23
PAPER GIRLS #7
SPREAD #14
TOKYO GHOST #9
THE WALKING DEAD #156
THE WICKED + THE DIVINE #21
 

arkon

Member
but why?

even as someone who reads a lot, I can't imagine reading that much stuff and retaining any of it or enjoying it

For the same sort of reasons why anyone takes part in challenges like them.

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To update on my own participation in it. I have now completed the challenge. My 1000th issue being Giant Days #9. It quickly became apparent that I could probably read through that total by June at the rate I was going which is what I decided to aim for. I'm now switching focus to prose novels but still aiming to whittle away the comics backlog which I've now realized has spiralled way out of control.

It was a similar experience to when I did the GAF 50/50 except a bit more relaxed because what was initially a daunting target became easily manageable. I'd have days off work where I read 15-16 issues and then go 4 days without reading anything if I didn't feel like it. I still had that problem of sometimes reading for the sake of these imposed targets but I can't say it impacted on my enjoyment nearly as much as when I did the GAF 50/50.

Worthwhile in the end and it got me back to reading comics rather than reading about others reading them which is how things spiralled in the first place. Now if I could cure my internet addiction...
 
anybody doing the 1000 issue challenge? I am tempted but don't feel like writing down everything.

I hit 800 last year. Will definitely hit 1000 this year (am already at 800). And I have 200+ issues of Secret Wars and tie-ins to go.

Arkon was looking to hit that number too and may already have. He was ahead of me.

Edit: ^^ There we go.

Thanks for asking! I wrote an update in the last OT, but it didn't get any replies so I wasn't sure if people were still interested. So I haven't updated since then. I'm really enjoying the transition from the 60s to the 70s though, especially as something strange happened.

Great update, thanks! I definitely pay attention. I was on the fence for the Lee/Kirby FF but your review pushed me over. Ordered the first omnibus, should be here next week.

Who drew that issue with Ultron-6? Seems very Kirby-ish.
 
Thanks for asking! I wrote an update in the last OT, but it didn't get any replies so I wasn't sure if people were still interested. So I haven't updated since then. I'm really enjoying the transition from the 60s to the 70s though, especially as something strange happened.




There were back-to-back issues of X-Men that were REALLY worthwhile reading, which had never happened in the Reading Order up until this point. Roy Thomas and Neale Adams were on fire, and it might just be my first pairing I look out for (sadly it's short lived as X-Men is now just re-issues for 5 years).
Basically it was just a well written, well drawn multi-issue story that lead to the return of Professor X, a classic Angel Costume and Havoc; while at the same time introducing Sauron! Amazing.

Sadly while X-Men was on the upturn a lot of other issues are on the downturn.

Iron Man is largely missable and at times just plain lazy. It doesn't felt like it's progressed as a book at all in the 5/6 years it's been going, while Tony Stark's development is really thin too. He's just stuck in a rut and may as well still be fighting Communism. There was a brief moment of goodness with the return of The Mandarain who was convinced he had discovered Tony Stark was Iron Man... but a Life Model Decoy later and he was no longer convinced.

Things are looking slightly better though as there's been a callback to the LMD in the current issue I'm reading, which sees the LMD takeover Tony Stark's identity!

<-- this is the next issue in the order I have to read. 1085 deep! (It's only taken 18 months).

I haven't enjoyed Silver Surfer since they humanised him with his backstory. They took away all the mystery of the character too soon, and couldn't resist the whole 'love arch' injection that every other person in the Marvel Universe has. Also his stories are too samey, which wouldn't be a problem if they weren't just like Hulk stories where he appears, people misunderstand his motives and suddenly have to fight him.
In fact things are so bad Silver Surfer is fighting horror movie castoffs



Thor has swapped places with the Fantastic Four in regards to Cosmic Events, as he's been fighting Galactus, and the last issue of Thor I read had Galactus sit Thor down while he shared his life story. It was pretty interesting seeing a bit of background into Galactus.

Captain America has been a bit trippy. Red Skull returned with the Cosmic Cube and swapped bodies with Cap, only for MODOK to decide that nobody should have the Cosmic Cube if MODOK can't have it. So MODOK built a device to remove all the power from the Cosmic Cube... just like that. Why not.

Speaking of out of the blue... the Avengers. Everything was pretty run of the mill, even if Hawkeye is still Goliath when all of a sudden 'We've discovered Adamantium!'. ooooh nice!
Then The Vision went a bit mental, stole it and rebuilt Ultron... only to then defeat Ultron. The Vision went batshit insane during this arch, it was pretty creepy. He was walking through people, dragging them into his cold lifeless form and generally being evil. I'm suddenly very interested in The Vision. Ultron and his Scooter not so much.



Daredevil has continued to be terrible but then all of sudden Karen Page has a story arch and the next thing you know he's VOLUNTARILY removed his mask to reveal his identity to her. I mean he has to tell it's not Mike at first, but I thought that was a pretty big moment - even if the cover gave it away. I'm still not excited for Daredevil though.



Sadly it's Captain Marvel that has suffered the most since the last update. Despite him getting new powers, and a new costume and his famous Naga-Bands he's been totally hampered by being trapped in Rick Jones' body. Rick Jones. Rick. Jones.
Why do Marvel insist on trying to make Rick Jones a thing - first Hulk, then Teen Brigade, then as Bucky v2 and now as Captain Marvel's body. Why.

My Fave Five Heroes since last update

5. Spiderman
4. Black Panther
3. Cyclops (I never thought I'd admit to this)
2. Hulk
1. Thor



I think I nearly unknowingly did this!

Your trek gives me joy. And everyone admits the bolded eventually.
 

Brian Fellows

Pete Carroll Owns Me
Where does the Al Ewing love come from? I'll admit I've only read a few issues from him so far but they've all been pretty average.
 

Sandfox

Member
Personally I'm more interested in the characters in USAvengers than the ones in New and Sandoval not drawing the book is a major plus so I'll give it a try. Rulk does look kinda silly on the cover though lol.

I'm surprised Young Cylcops is a part of Marvel Now lol.
 

Hellers

Member
I've gotten my Shield Tablet working nicely now. A factory reset, shuffled some apps around and installed a spanking new high speed 128gig SD card. I have so much Humble Bundle Star Trek to read. Currently grabbing a load of Comixology stuff from my account.

Is BRPD Hell on Earth worth reading? I've never read it before but I fancy a look. Where do I start?
 

TheFlow

Banned
Personally I'm more interested in the characters in USAvengers than the ones in New and Sandoval not drawing the book is a major plus so I'll give it a try. Rulk does look kinda silly on the cover though lol.

I'm surprised Young Cylcops is a part of Marvel Now lol.

sunspot>usa team
 
I've gotten my Shield Tablet working nicely now. A factory reset, shuffled some apps around and installed a spanking new high speed 128gig SD card. I have so much Humble Bundle Star Trek to read. Currently grabbing a load of Comixology stuff from my account.

Is BRPD Hell on Earth worth reading? I've never read it before but I fancy a look. Where do I start?
Have you read BPRD Plague of Frogs? It's the follow up to it.

I haven't started Hell on Earth yet but you can just start at volume 1 if you're done with Plague of Frogs. If it's anywhere near as good then it's definitely worth reading.
 
You are going to hit 3k issues by new year I can feel it.

You are a legend for reading so many of those old school issues.

Silly yes, legend not too sure! I've slowed down over the last few months, so I might not hit 3k (as I've just started to play Final Fantasy games for the first time too haha).

Great update, thanks! I definitely pay attention. I was on the fence for the Lee/Kirby FF but your review pushed me over. Ordered the first omnibus, should be here next week.

Oh damn! I hope you enjoy it!
I enjoyed it in comparison to everything else I was reading at the time, it really stood out in terms of storytelling and events. It was also good to finally get to know the Fantastic Four, as it's a group I never really cared for before starting reading order. I only knew of them from the terrible cartoon and the movies, so I never really understood why they were considered so important to Marvel.
However, it's easy to understand that having read the early years and all the groundwork put in place to set up cosmic events. I'm not sure how fascinating that'll be to someone who already knows about the Fantastic Four and Marvel Lore, but to me it was great.
Granted it has it's moments where it shows it's age with science and views on women (I still think Reed Richards is a total dick!), so if you can put that to one side it should still be an interesting read... well maybe not Mole Man.

You'll have to share your thoughts once you've read it!

Who drew that issue with Ultron-6? Seems very Kirby-ish.

It was Barry Windsor-Smith! Yet again Roy Thomas taking the writing plaudits, he's pretty much running Marvel at this point. I think the only writing Stan Lee does now is Spider-Man and Fantastic Four.


Welcome to Team Cyclops! It's fun here. We have jackets, and get to yell "JEAN!" whenever we're anguished.

That's all the time.


Your trek gives me joy. And everyone admits the bolded eventually.

I didn't think it'd happen, honestly. However, his character has grown so much since he's been leading the X-Men. It's also been really refreshing to see him get angry about something, instead of always taking the moral high ground! His relationship with his Brother has been an interesting journey so far too!

Thanks all for the replies!
 

arkon

Member
I've gotten my Shield Tablet working nicely now. A factory reset, shuffled some apps around and installed a spanking new high speed 128gig SD card. I have so much Humble Bundle Star Trek to read. Currently grabbing a load of Comixology stuff from my account.

Is BRPD Hell on Earth worth reading? I've never read it before but I fancy a look. Where do I start?
Like Tyrant said, start with the Plague of Frogs collections if you haven't already and then onto the Hell on Earth stuff. The Multiversity reading order is a fairly useful guide for that whole range of books. Also consider reading Hellboy.
 
I've gotten my Shield Tablet working nicely now. A factory reset, shuffled some apps around and installed a spanking new high speed 128gig SD card. I have so much Humble Bundle Star Trek to read. Currently grabbing a load of Comixology stuff from my account.

Is BRPD Hell on Earth worth reading? I've never read it before but I fancy a look. Where do I start?

God yes. You should really start at the very beginning though and read the entire Mignolaverse.

http://boiledleather.com/post/134926449628/the-hellboy-bprd-mignolaverse-reading-order
 

Hellers

Member
Like Tyrant said, start with the Plague of Frogs collections if you haven't already and then onto the Hell on Earth stuff. The Multiversity reading order is a fairly useful guide for that whole range of books. Also consider reading Hellboy.

I have a volume of Plague of Frogs from some Amazon sale or another and I bought the first volume of Hellboy a while ago and never got around to reading it. Cheers for the advice both of you. I'll start with Plague of Frogs and maybe read Hellboy in parallel.
 
It's dead.

He's been a bit hit-or-miss for me in ANAD but for the most part I really like his books.
Literally. The book got cancelled so the last issues apparently got collapsed together into one huge issue instead of a full arc.

Sort of sad to see his interesting books suffer so low sales without Marvel pushing them at all in promotional stuff.

I kind of want to see what he could do at DC or Vertigo where the cancellation line isn't so high but he's pretty much Marvel exclusive without having to sign a contract.
 
Literally. The book got cancelled so the last issues apparently got collapsed together into one huge issue instead of a full arc.

Sort of sad to see his interesting books suffer so low sales without Marvel pushing them at all in promotional stuff.

I kind of want to see what he could do at DC or Vertigo where the cancellation line isn't so high but he's pretty much Marvel exclusive without having to sign a contract.

CoC wasn't very interesting.
 

Vic_Viper

Member
Was Judd Winik's Outsiders series really as bad as people make it out to be?

I'm trying to put together some runs to read before and after Infinite Crisis and it seems like Outsiders runs right along with Johns' Teen Titans run. Other than Graduation Day are there any important arcs to read?

Have no idea who Donna Troy is and I kinda want to recap on some of her stuff also before getting into her death/return.
 
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