RespectThySole
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Rise of Tomb Raider isn't even top 20 for this gen, forget about all time.
I think that probably has to do with the fact that it was bringing a previous poster child of everything wrong about male focused exclusionary gaming into the new century.
I don't think it's one of the 50 "best" games ever made, but this seems more to be the '50 most influential games' list, and you could make the argument that ROTR was the tip of the spear in more inclusive gaming and because of the franchises previous position as male gaze on steroids, is a fairly important game in that regard.
I would point towards Mirror's Edge or Beyond Good and Evil as the tip of that spear, but they were relatively minor releases in the scheme of a main stream publication.
Rise of Tomb Raider isn't even top 20 for this gen, forget about all time.
I like the list. Needs From Software's output though.
That list doesnt seem to make much sense - theres some bizarre inclusions/exclusions that just make it hard to understand what they were trying to do.
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Alexey Pajitnov beat him though.The list only reinforces that Miyamoto has no peer.
Then what did Rise of the Tomb Raider have in terms of impact apart from bombing compared to its predecessor?The last of us has nothing on angry birds in terms of impact.
I don't think this list works even as "most influential". Metroid-style games are completely absent. Modern Warfare is absent. Street Fighter II is absent.
Is something like Final Fantasy VI really more influential than any of those omissions?
how come game i like not on list
Alexey Pajitnov beat him though.
Which is even weirder when they put in Ms. Pacman (legit choice) but not Pacman when they wanted to get the original in for being the first.The list is a little too reliant on getting the first game of a series in the rather than a superior sequel. Castlevania, Smash Brothers and Mario Kart, for instance should have used later games in the series because most of the forthcoming games were better.
It's been said already, but I repeat: no Street Fighter is 100% pure ignorance. It's only the cornerstone of an entire genre. It's as bad as leaving out Mario, Doom, or Tetris.
Including Mortal Kombat instead is just trolling. May as well have included Sonic and not Mario. GG Time.
That's not really saying much.Why so much hate for ROTTR here?
It's best TR game in more than 10 years, i honestly don't see what's wrong with it. Game deserves to be on the list, maybe not in TOP 20, but there really isn't anything wrong with game being on the list. I repeat it's best TR game in more than 10 years and this is deserved.
Where is super metroid? Metroid prime? Sotn?
why is tetris so highly regarded? it sucks.
Alexey Pajitnov beat him though.
I honestly can't see how you can argue that Rise of the Tomb Raider did anything substantial for more inclusive gaming over other games. It didn't release to mindblowing sales and post-release excitement for the title died down faster than anything released in 2015. If anything it marched on along the footsteps created by the first Tomb Raider reboot, which coincidentally did a lot better and was a better game to boot. Why isn't, say, Metroid there?
RotTR has neither had the industry influence nor the quality to be at #18 in the list of best games of all time. It didn't break any new ground.
New Lara Croft might as well has been a generic male adventurer and it wouldn't have changed anything.
Weird inclusion to the list, for sure.
Where is super metroid? Metroid prime? Sotn?