nycgamer4ever
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Because Sony made it a thing during the conference.
If they hadn't mentioned it 100 times, we wouldn't be talking about it now.
Really? I could have sworn every xbox s add online harps on hdr and 4k playback.
Because Sony made it a thing during the conference.
If they hadn't mentioned it 100 times, we wouldn't be talking about it now.
...but it DOES bring a lot to the table for games. There are games just about to ship on Xbox One which support HDR out of the box (on the One S). Forza Horizon 3 and Gears of War 4, to name two. I've seen them both in HDR. It is glorious.What I dont understand why MS is so proud that X1-S has HRD, it brings nothing to the table (for games)
I think for this generation HDR is here for early adaptors, mainstream will start to use it in a couple of year.
The standard "what is HDR" image:
Of course, this is displayed on your non HDR monitor, so they have to play down the "non HDR" photo to show the comparison. But given the content I've seen in HDR, this is a fair comparison.
This reminds me...
You think it would be capable. But I don't know because supposedly the signal, the way it's encoded, only passes through hdmi 2.0 connections.
I think my receiver supports so called "deep color". My TV I am not totally sure. I think it's just 8-bit per channel.
Outside some camcorders I don't know too many things that supported deep color.
The standard "what is HDR" image:
Of course, this is displayed on your non HDR monitor, so they have to play down the "non HDR" photo to show the comparison. But given the content I've seen in HDR, this is a fair comparison.
What I dont understand why MS is so proud that X1-S has HRD, it brings nothing to the table (for games)
I think for this generation HDR is here for early adaptors, mainstream will start to use it in a couple of year.
Holy fucking shitballs! That looks incredible!
Guess I need to start saving for a new TV then.....
HDMI 2.0a actually.
It's why I don't own an Xbox One S. My 1400 dollar Marantz reciever is HDMI 2.0.
I can see 4k HDR content over Netflix without sound because my TV (LG OLED) has a native Netflix app (though I get no sound).
I bought my receiver 3 months too early or I would have the Marantz HDMI 2.0a connection and UHD already :/
Yes but as the first commenter pointed out it didn't spark like 20 topics on enthusiast sites like NeoGAF, Microsoft have a HDR machine out right now with games that take advantage of the feature coming shortly but it hasn't had the same impact on us. Most of us just didn't know what HDR really was until the PlayStation Meeting and it's a very hard thing to sell in the digital space.
What is perplexing me is that I still don't understand why it needs a TV capable of 4K with HDR. Is this not the same HDR Valve showed in Half Life 2 years ago which any monitor was capable of showing?
What is perplexing me is that I still don't understand why it needs a TV capable of 4K with HDR. Is this not the same HDR Valve showed in Half Life 2 years ago which any monitor was capable of showing?
What is perplexing me is that I still don't understand why it needs a TV capable of 4K with HDR. Is this not the same HDR Valve showed in Half Life 2 years ago which any monitor was capable of showing?
What is perplexing me is that I still don't understand why it needs a TV capable of 4K with HDR. Is this not the same HDR Valve showed in Half Life 2 years ago which any monitor was capable of showing?
Ok....so I have a couple of questions.
Right now we have:
HDR 10 (10bit Color) and Dolby Vision(12bit Color)
HDR10 is probably gonna end up being the standard right? I mean since there are licensing fees for Dolby Vision.
Also, how long before there is a HDR12 ?
What is perplexing me is that I still don't understand why it needs a TV capable of 4K with HDR. Is this not the same HDR Valve showed in Half Life 2 years ago which any monitor was capable of showing?
Holy fucking shitballs! That looks incredible!
Guess I need to start saving for a new TV then.....
...but it DOES bring a lot to the table for games. There are games just about to ship on Xbox One which support HDR out of the box (on the One S). Forza Horizon 3 and Gears of War 4, to name two. I've seen them both in HDR. It is glorious.
The XO version of Gears 4 running in HDR on an OLED TV looked better in person than the PC version running on a large 4K LCD without HDR.
HDMI 2.0a actually.
It's why I don't own an Xbox One S. My 1400 dollar Marantz reciever is HDMI 2.0.
I can see 4k HDR content over Netflix without sound because my TV (LG OLED) has a native Netflix app (though I get no sound).
I bought my receiver 3 months too early or I would have the Marantz HDMI 2.0a connection and UHD already :/
Also, how long before there is a HDR12 ?
So if my plasma tv supports 10 or 12 bits of color it is somewhat hdr capable? It supports deep color and has a 30 bit mode if that helps.
Edit: It also has a 24,576 color gradation system
What is perplexing me is that I still don't understand why it needs a TV capable of 4K with HDR. Is this not the same HDR Valve showed in Half Life 2 years ago which any monitor was capable of showing?
What is perplexing me is that I still don't understand why it needs a TV capable of 4K with HDR. Is this not the same HDR Valve showed in Half Life 2 years ago which any monitor was capable of showing?
So I see a Samsung (KS8000) tv with HDR10 support. Is that the right TV to own?
does hdr really make things look bettter? from my experience its shit...dont see how it makes things better, it makes everything looked burned.
I believe if you turn on deep color it would be recognized by the system, at least that's what I've seen with TVs on the Xbox One S.
does hdr really make things look bettter? from my experience its shit...dont see how it makes things better, it makes everything looked burned.
does hdr really make things look bettter? from my experience its shit...dont see how it makes things better, it makes everything looked burned.
Hmmm. Can a 1.4 device support a signal from an HDMI 2.0 device?
I mean I know it can, but can it transfer HDR info?
does hdr really make things look bettter? from my experience its shit...dont see how it makes things better, it makes everything looked burned.
Now, that's how i explain HDR
You need two separate pictures to understand the difference, because, heh, you're seeing things through a SDR screen.
There you go.
On the left, the picture as shot. To be able to show some detail in the dark, everything outside the window is blown out, almost solid white.
That's not overexposed though: the camera still captured details and colors correctly for that area, as would your eyes.
Those details are there, but your monitor cannot display them.
That's why cranking down exposure in post processing using lightroom or camera raw, I am able to recover the blue sky and the foliage outside. (Pic on the right.)
Of course, now i lost details in the shadows and everything turned black.
HDR screens, if we're not being lied to, should be able to show you the entire range captured by the camera at the same time.
So you'd see what's inside and what's outside of the window.
No, merging the two pics and tone mapping is not the same, you'd just compress brightness values of the scene within the 0-255 range your tv can display.
Are those new HDR tvs different on a technical level from my EIZO 12-bit (internally16 bit LUT) monitor (CG222W) I used for 5+ years at work?
Something that makes stuff look better on them?
The fake examples of HDR running on a standard monitor / TV do make things burned. But the tech in person is the real deal...if that makes sense.
So I see a Samsung (KS8000) tv with HDR10 support. Is that the right TV to own?
Just for posterity, Microsoft mentioned it a bunch talking about Scorpio at E3 as well.
However Sony did really REALLY lean into it.
Thanks.You think it would be capable. But I don't know because supposedly the signal, the way it's encoded, only passes through hdmi 2.0 connections.
I think my receiver supports so called "deep color". My TV I am not totally sure. I think it's just 8-bit per channel.
Outside some camcorders I don't know too many things that supported deep color.
Really? I could have sworn every xbox s add online harps on hdr and 4k playback.