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Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite announced (PC/XB1/PS4, 2017) [Update: Info In OP]
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IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Magneto got announced with Arthur, Modok and Spencer at NYCC. IRCC
And taskmaster.
While it is true that Combo still has to answer to Capcom, Capcom kind of have to answer to Marvel. Considering they're propping him up this much I have to think that they're aware of how valuable he is and that Capcom need to be more considerate about that input - Marvel seem to be taking their new game ventures very seriously and I'm imagining they don't want anything to get lost to hubris when they're the ones probably footing the dev costs.
ForkNetwork
Banned
Day of Sigma X didnt whine about violence, heck, he had a lot of personally during those 20 minutes.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Nobody likes to keep track of where the corners are on Demon Village Redux.
Though I am hearing that they got rid of a lot of the hitstop in PS4 UMVC3, so if that's the case, then maybe that's what people are noticing when they're talking about a "more consistent framerate."
Literally the one thing that makes MvC MvC to me is that I'm playing a team, not just multiple point characters. If I wanted that I'd be playing KOF.
Like, shit like the character roster or button layout or even the number of characters per team doesn't matter much to me. I liked TvC fine enough.
Hard for me to consider this to be part of the same series at the moment.
And again, when he doesn't even have any VA clips, it just shows how early he is.
Hah!
BronsonLee
Member
I'm wondering why they weren't working on X first if they were going to be showing him first?
Same with Ryu, I don't think either of those two are done yet
Same with Ryu, I don't think either of those two are done yet
the design concepts behind 3v3 (team health management, order decision, character choice, assist choice, character toolset design diversity, etc- i can go far more into detail if you care), including assists are what make mvc2 and 3 truly unique and compelling vs. other fighting games.
i can't speak for everyone but in my own community, we were talkin' for hours after seeing it on how it removes what makes the versus series unique and interesting. it can still be fun and good but it's removing a core aspect of what defines the series to people who actually play it
that the team reps during the interview said that sfxt style tagging is more representative of teamwork and more complex than assists (and effectively 3v3) is like, fucking bonkers given how much they add to the game in every single way at every level
Bruno_Arrais85
Member
X does not have any face animations or VA ready for him in the current build
Heh
Jawmuncher
Member
If th game is coming out 2017. Seems like they pushed him to the front for the reveal despite probably not as far along as others.
Bruno_Arrais85
Member
That's because X was one of the most requested characters in Marvel 3.
TheDinoman
Member
After the shitstorm that happened with MVC3 not having any sort of Mega Man as a playable character, it's pretty obvious why X was literally the first character shown off.
jack_package_200
Banned
I hope Captain America and The Winter Soldier are shown off on ESPN
direct_quote
Member
Wonder if they will look like their movie counterparts or not...
That Playstation interview was simultaneously the most comforting and worrying thing ever.
They make some valid points about how assists don't really make it any more or less of a team game if they're there, but it's in the same breath as a lot of "you don't need no fangled arcade sticks or 3 characters, waaaaaaay too complicated!"
They make some valid points about how assists don't really make it any more or less of a team game if they're there, but it's in the same breath as a lot of "you don't need no fangled arcade sticks or 3 characters, waaaaaaay too complicated!"
PadWarrior
Member
Curious about this as well.
Vital Tundra
Member
Lack of assists makes the game better in my eyes.
BronsonLee
Member
They wanna hit the Tumblr demographic so ya
Expect Cap to be unmasked too and his face is just a beacon of white light blinding all nearby
Doctrine Dark
Member
Yeah, I wasn't a big fan of that part. MVC3 was accessible on Pad just fine, so that wasn't an issue. I dunno. Probably just talk.
Seeing Iron Man's crouching jab makes me wonder if there'll be separate Punches and Kicks, though.
Seeing Iron Man's crouching jab makes me wonder if there'll be separate Punches and Kicks, though.
He was outright the most wanted character for that game and its expansion. The only other phenom level character (Phoenix Wright) got in ASAP with Ultimate's release.
The only competition he ever had was from people wanting another Megaman between himself, Classic and Volnutt (Legends), but he was most wanted because his buddy cop Zero was in and he himself had never been in the VS series.
Iron Man isn't wearing his movie armor, so probably not.
Yeah, this is straight bullshit. 3v3 is exciting as hell. If we wanted 2v2 we would have stuck with the other lame ass games.
Yeah, I'd consider X, Phoenix Wright, Strider Hiryu, Frank West, and Vergil the five most requested Capcom characters for Ultimate, and all but one of them made it in. It made a ton of sense to reveal X first for Infinite.
MvC2 and 3 are fucking nightmares for casual players trying to learn. In the heyday of SF4 and Marvel 3, my friends would always be more interested in learning Marvel after seeing me play - but I would always tell them to play Street Fighter first. There's just too much happening at high speed and the difficulty curve is much steeper.
The Marvel license is exponentially bigger now than it was 5-6 years ago. They have a much bigger chance at capturing casuals now. This is the time to simplify a bit.
The Marvel license is exponentially bigger now than it was 5-6 years ago. They have a much bigger chance at capturing casuals now. This is the time to simplify a bit.
darkslayer101
Member
I feel like making it visually appealing would do the trick of bringing in new players, kinda like what mkx did.
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
I feel like making it visually appealing would do the trick of bringing in new players, kinda like what mkx did.
MKX is also easy to get into with its mechanics.
Starphoenix
Member
These were the top 15 Capcom characters voted for on the Capcom Unity poll before UMvC was announced:
1. Strider 2094
2. Mega Man X - 2061
3. Phoenix Wright - 1734
4. Frank West - 1311
5. Gene - 1257
6. Classic Megaman - 950
7. Vergil - 919
8. Captain Commando - 784
9. Bison - 704
10. Jin Saotome - 677
11. Jon Talbain - 617
12. Bass.Exe - 606
13. Ken - 469
14. Leon Kennedy - 419
15. Cammy - 416
That's the exact same way I felt.
I'd love it if we got Gene and Captain Commando in this one.
MSH was 2v2?
BronsonLee
Member
Cut everyone after Jin tbh
Karsticles
Member
ComboFiend now one of Them.
Hypothetical way for this game to be saved for me:
1) 2v2, so no assists. Sucks, but okay.
2) Giants are back.
3) MFing Rathalos is in the game.
4) Hyper armor dragon attacks.
5) Mow down scrubs all day until they quit the game.
6) Game redeemed.
Hypothetical way for this game to be saved for me:
1) 2v2, so no assists. Sucks, but okay.
2) Giants are back.
3) MFing Rathalos is in the game.
4) Hyper armor dragon attacks.
5) Mow down scrubs all day until they quit the game.
6) Game redeemed.
Well the only leak that pointed towards 2v2 did also mention a monster hunter dragon...
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Simplifying fighting games to encourage casual players to stick with them has never fucking worked. Not once. It's infuriating that developers still try to trot out that line for it, too. I can't tell if they're dumb enough to believe it or just trying to work the PR angle.
Ultras were supposed to be a comeback mechanic to keep players in the game in SF4, but it's more likely that a pro will make better use of it, while a scrub will just whiff and waste it on wake-up.
Any dunce can do some damage with X-Factor, but you're more likely to be shredded by Wong's XF1 Wolverine who knows how to kill all of your characters before they can do anything or a competent XF3 Vergil who can clean up when things go south.
I like that SF5's input buffer is a lot more lenient than in prior entries of the series, but quite a lot of the faces seen at Capcom Cup 2016 are the same as in 2015.
Even fucking Smash Bros has only 2 attack buttons, but Melee also happens to have the most consistent tournament results of any fighting game ever. Because the people who place well just know how to play the game better than the rest of the competition. And there were even plenty of posts here on GAF complaining that Smash 4 was too complicated when that game was released.
You can dumb down Infinite as much as you like. It won't change a thing. The dedicated players will be the ones who get results, and the people who can't handle their losses or figure out how to learn from them will throw in the towel and move on with their lives as soon as they're tired of taking a beating online. Nothing you can do can keep the latter group around; that's a mindset problem that can't be solved through game development.
BassForever
Member
Can you post that link?
TheDinoman
Member
It also said "+1 assist", so I'd take it with a grain of salt.
Randomly bopping about hoping that tonight's Capcom side reveal isn't just Chun-Li. It'd be rad if Dante was revealed early.
It's funny to look back in retrospect and realize that these were all Ultimate additions to the roster. They are such easy "no-brainers" that I took it for granted that all but X showed up late. :lol
Strider in particular is very interesting because it seems like he would have been there first round if the Moto Kihaku license stuff had been sorted out before the game's launch.
It's funny to look back in retrospect and realize that these were all Ultimate additions to the roster. They are such easy "no-brainers" that I took it for granted that all but X showed up late. :lol
Strider in particular is very interesting because it seems like he would have been there first round if the Moto Kihaku license stuff had been sorted out before the game's launch.
Stone Ocean
Member
Hopefully they can sort out Strider for the starting roster
I need URBURSRSR
I need URBURSRSR
Bruno_Arrais85
Member
Strider is a lock as well
Starphoenix
Member
Bass.EXE would be a sick addition. However, I would prefer Zero and Sigma get the priority Mega Man status.
racketpunch
Member
Man this game is going to be even easier than Marvel 3? SMH
It really is going to be SFxT 2.0
It really is going to be SFxT 2.0
Karsticles
Member
Yup. Only thing I have to look forward to now. I won't even pretend Nina has a chance, or that they can do Dormammu justice in this game.
I'm trying to find it. It was an SRK post about a Malaysian animator that claimed MvC4 would be 2v2, +1 assist, and have a Monster Hunter dragon in it.
Just guessing 2v2 is enough for it to be believable. Before that, no one would have thought this would be the case. It makes sense that they tried 2v2 +assist, then cut the assist because it was too hard for "casuals" to understand.
Same. Dante/Strider must live on.
From the Lupinko teases right?
I was just bouncing the idea around of the roster (if it really does hit that "Huge" mark) having a Megaman Generations bunch consisting of X, Zero series Zero, Bass.EXE, Tron and Classic Roll. It'd never happen and if it did, the bellyaching about series reps would be immense, but it'd be pretty cool for the franchise. All of them would be fun as fuck guaranteed too.
Marvel 3 was easy? That's news to me and probably anyone else that plays/played the game at a high level.
Stupid as fuck sometimes? Yes. Easy? Hell no.
The X alternate costume for Zero didn't count?