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Senate takes major step towards repealing Obamacare

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massoluk

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https://twitter.com/CraigCaplan/status/819382019264282624?s=09
49-49:Senate blocks Casey amdt to prevent healthcare coverage loss for those w/pre-existing conditions.Rs Collins Heller voted Yes.60 needed
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Sorry America, literally lots of people condemned to die today

Edit: sorry for sensationalist title

mid83 said:
Not that it changes the inevitable (pre existing conditions coverage can't work without the mandate), but here is a little more info on what exactly this vote was. Keep in mind nothing is happening yet after these votes, other than setting the table for an eventual repeal vote.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/us/politics/health-care-congress-vote-a-rama.html
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Ryzaki009

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And depression exists as a pre-existing condition. Rip therapy I hardly knew ye. Thanks Trump voters.

The only good point is the schadenfreude I'll get when those fools start crying about losing their healthcare. It'll be drowned out by people who knew better suffering too though. *sigh*
 
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Rayne009 said:
And depression exists as a pre-existing condition. Rip therapy I hardly knew ye. Thanks Trump voters.

The only good point is the schadenfreude I'll get when those fools start crying about losing their healthcare. It'll be drowned out by people who knew better suffering too though. *sigh*
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Jokes on you I'm on ACA!!!

Lol
 
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TheSchwab_7

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Rayne009 said:
And depression exists as a pre-existing condition. Rip therapy I hardly knew ye. Thanks Trump voters.

The only good point is the schadenfreude I'll get when those fools start crying about losing their healthcare. It'll be drowned out by people who knew better suffering too though. *sigh*
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I'm doomed. Plus I used to have epilepsy.
 
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Dhx

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I don't have much hope, but it's not over yet. There is a lot of political fuckery, tactics, and posturing going on tonight. It's going to take a bit to see the end game.

That said.. Don't get your hopes up.
 
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Balphon

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Hello high-risk pools. It's been awhile.

Realistically, there's no feasible way to keep it without also keeping the individual mandate.
 
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Jarmel

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sphagnum said:
Insane. This was the one thing in particular everyone wanted to stay more than anything else.
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Doesn't really matter. The whole thing was full of co-dependent clauses. Something those fucking idiots complaining about the ACA fail to understand.

This is what happens when you have a bunch of dimwits who could barely pass introductory economics having a say about national policies.
 
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exmachina64

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Knuckle Sandwich said:
I can't even begin to fathom how someone could do this. Just plain evil.
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"I'm rich, I have great coverage. It's easy to get a job and have good coverage. There are so many options. People who are sick and have disabilities could work harder. The only thing keeping people down are themselves and government."

Generally, it's that line of thought.
 
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psyfi

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A lot of Americans are going to die at the hands of the new Trump lead GOP. Living in America is now about surviving in America. We need to get serious about taking care of each other on a local, community level, because the federal government is coming after our basic safety.
 
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Matty77

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Yup fuck us all. But somehow this is good to a lot of voters that need this and I don't get it.

I guess it's because even though I am white I don't "suffer from economic anxiety".

Thanks racists, desire so much to fuck up what Obama did and screw over minorities not only did you fuck yourselves but also a hell of a lot of innocent minorities, women, gay lesbian and bi, Trans people and the disabled like me all of us who didn't vote for those enabling this.

Between this and planned parenthood I am really scared.
 
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Brakke

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sphagnum said:
Insane. This was the one thing in particular everyone wanted to stay more than anything else.
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Nah, the "you can keep your kids on your coverage until they're 26" was the only easy one.

You can't really keep the pre-existing conditions bit if you kill the individual mandate. Otherwise balance sheets collapse: exactly nobody buys health insurance (beyond maybe catastrophic coverage) until they're diagnosed with something, then they'd upgrade.
 
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Metaroo

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How soon until this takes effect? Is it an overnight kind of deal, or do people already settled in plans have amnesty?

I know that most people on this forum are pretty sharp, but I think its worth repeating on every page in this thread. People WILL die because of this. It's not a matter of if, but how many.
 
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exmachina64

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Jarmel said:
Doesn't really matter. The whole thing was full of co--dependent clauses. Something those fucking idiots complaining about the ACA fail to understand.

This is what happens when you have a bunch of dimwits who could barely pass introductory economics having a say about national policies.
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I doubt they could.
 
Ryzaki009

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Captin Quacker said:
Jokes on you I'm on ACA!!!

Lol
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Oh god I wish some fool would say that to my face. I wouldn't stop laughing. I'd be feeling the cartman licking tears gif after breaking the news to them for hours.Then I'd remember the other people they screwed over and get depressed. :(

TheSchwab_7 said:
I'm doomed. Plus I used to have epilepsy.
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*hugs* Thankfully I refused to take meds for my depression. If I had this'd be bad. My migraine medicine can thankfully just be replaced by Tylenol for the most part so I can make do. It's really shit for those that can't.

I'm not sure what I'm gonna do without my therapy though. Most times that's the only thing keeping me from hitting rock bottom.

I just can't believe this stupidity.
 
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SchrodingerC

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There goes my therapy coverage.

Thanks GOP, I hope you fuckers suffer.

Edit: Whatever can slow down the drafting of this repeal, please happen soon.
 
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MattKeil

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Just shoveling money into corporate pockets over the corpses of American citizens. You know, like you voted for. But her emails.
 
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Brakke

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Metaroo said:
How soon until this takes effect? Is it an overnight kind of deal, or do people already settled in plans have amnesty?

I know that most people on this forum are pretty sharp, but I think its worth repeating on every page in this thread. People WILL die because of this. It's not a matter of if, but how many.
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This isn't a law, it's an instruction to committees drafting the repeal law. But the fact that this passed is a troubling and strong indication of where we're heading.
 
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Nokterian

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Metaroo said:
How soon until this takes effect? Is it an overnight kind of deal, or do people already settled in plans have amnesty?

I know that most people on this forum are pretty sharp, but I think its worth repeating on every page in this thread. People WILL die because of this. It's not a matter of if, but how many.
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There moving on fast pace now, they don't care since trump said dismantle ACA asap. And here is the result, all sick,disabled,troubled young and old people and everyone else is fucked. Because fuck you we are rich and you are poor,why are you poor?

You can thank everyone who voted trump but also who did not vote. This is reality now this is how it all starts and it will not end well.
 
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Strike

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"Both sides are the same." ,"Your vote doesn't matter." , etc. Damn shame it had to come to this. Especially when it didn't have to.
 
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pbsapeer

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Discriminating on previous disabilities should be illegal. I feel for you Americans. Trump voters really have fucked things up.
 
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KurtSloane

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Sorry to sound ignorant, but as far as I was concerned health insurance never covered pre existing conditions.

It is that way in the UK (from what I know) .... I know we have the NHS and its not as serious as this news, but was just wondering if I had a bad information?
 
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Jarmel

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I'm not even mad at the rich people. It's that 50k and under group who are going to be screwed over by this but wanted it away. Congratulations.

It's like I'm literally living in a Wishmaster movie.
 
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ErasureAcer

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The Vote according to some guy linked in the OP comments. Which appears to be a Bernie Sanders' amendment and not the Casey amendment. Same vote total though, so probably the same breakdown. This happened on the 10th(Tuesday), OP seems to be referring to a Twitter post on the 11th(Wednesday).

Grouped By Vote Position
YEAs ---49
Baldwin (D-WI)
Bennet (D-CO)
Blumenthal (D-CT)
Booker (D-NJ)
Brown (D-OH)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Collins (R-ME)
Coons (D-DE)
Cortez Masto (D-NV)
Donnelly (D-IN)
Duckworth (D-IL)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Harris (D-CA)
Hassan (D-NH)
Heinrich (D-NM)
Heitkamp (D-ND)
Hirono (D-HI)
Kaine (D-VA)
King (I-ME)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Leahy (D-VT)
Manchin (D-WV)
Markey (D-MA)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Merkley (D-OR)
Murphy (D-CT)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Peters (D-MI)
Reed (D-RI)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schatz (D-HI)
Schumer (D-NY)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Udall (D-NM)
Van Hollen (D-MD)
Warner (D-VA)
Warren (D-MA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)

NAYs ---49
Alexander (R-TN)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Burr (R-NC)
Capito (R-WV)
Cassidy (R-LA)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Cotton (R-AR)
Crapo (R-ID)
Cruz (R-TX)
Daines (R-MT)
Enzi (R-WY)
Ernst (R-IA)
Fischer (R-NE)
Flake (R-AZ)
Gardner (R-CO)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Heller (R-NV)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kennedy (R-LA)
Lankford (R-OK)
Lee (R-UT)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Moran (R-KS)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Paul (R-KY)
Perdue (R-GA)
Portman (R-OH)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rounds (R-SD)
Rubio (R-FL)
Sasse (R-NE)
Scott (R-SC)
Shelby (R-AL)
Sullivan (R-AK)
Thune (R-SD)
Toomey (R-PA)
Wicker (R-MS)
Young (R-IN)

Not Voting - 2
Sessions (R-AL)
Tillis (R-NC)

Collins(R-ME) is the only one to flip

Casey Amendment is #61. That vote above is for Bernie(but as I said before, same vote totals...so probably the same people voting yea/no). Haven't figured out what the Casey amendment is and the OP did a really shit job.
 
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