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Did Nintendo Treehouse drop a MAJOR spoiler during their Breath of the Wild stream?

Caelus

Member
Probably a mistake.

There are a lot of incongruities with this Link being the same Link from OoT and MM, though it probably does take place on the Downfall Timeline.

Who knows, there are so many things they could retcon.
 

ShdwDrake

Banned
Yep. I'm sure the Hero of Time is referenced in Windwaker.

Yes because of Wind Waker. The Link in Wind Waker is not the hero of time tho. But there was a link who was previously the hero of time in OoT that happened before The Link in WW was around.
 

Comet

Member
I wonder what this would mean for old skeleton "Hero of Time" Link in Twilight Princess. If this theory is true it would seem that Breath of the Wild would have to occur before Twilight Princess?
 

Cerium

Member
I wonder what this would mean for old skeleton "Hero of Time" Link in Twilight Princess. If this theory is true it would seem that Breath of the Wild would have to occur before Twilight Princess?

The most popular theory right now is that it occurs in the third timeline, placing it between OOT and ALTTP.
 

Atheerios

Member
I'm pretty sure most people just refer to Link as the hero of time and don't know / care about the timelines. So it was probably just a mistake.
 
This is a common enough occurrence among everyday Zelda players that I don't know that someone on Treehouse doing it means anything.
 
Seeing as how a good portion of us here thought every Link was the Hero of Time it's stands to reason that this is most likely nothing more than a mistake by the commentator.
 
Seeing as how a good portion of us here thought every Link was the Hero of Time it's stands to reason that this is most likely nothing more than a mistake by the commentator.

Pretty much my conclusion after reading the thread. Probably an honest mistake, and even if it turns out she was right, that's probably a lucky guess rather than her having detailed insider knowledge.

I'm surprised how many people didn't know Wind Waker link was "Hero of winds" though. The TP and SS ones are more generic, something like "Hero chosen by the gods", but they're still there.
 
Man. This isn't tough to understand. The Legend of Zelda series doesn't have a single protagonist named Link. There are several protagonists.

The Hero of Time
The Hero of Wind
The Bunny Rabbit guy
The Wolf Guy
The Hero who lived up in the sky

The one from OoT and MM is the Hero of Time. The protagonist of Wind Waker is NOT the hero of time. You know how I know that? Because the first MINUTE of The Wind Waker explains that the Hero of Time beat Ganon a long time ago and this story takes place way after that.

And in fact, the kid from WW dresses up like the Hero of Time as a tribute to him.

And in fact, the kid from WW stands in front of a statue of the Hero of Time and pushed it to find a staircase.

They're not all the same guy. They're not even necessarily named Link unless you name him that.

Do people watch The Godfather 1 and 2 and think Vito and Michael are the same guy (rather than father and son) because they're both called the Godfather?
 

Comet

Member
The most popular theory right now is that it occurs in the third timeline, placing it between OOT and ALTTP.

Ah that's right, adult Link's timeline correct? Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess follow the young Link story. I had forgotten that tiny but important detail :p
 

gaiages

Banned
A lot of people think all of the Links are the Hero of Time, and whether or not that's true doesn't change the fact that people are going to think that. I mean if there's a not-small amount of people on a dedicated video game forum that thought all Links were the Hero of Time, It's not too far-fetched to assume people that aren't invested in Zelda lore are going to think similarly.

It was probably just a mistake and tbh some people are taking this a little too seriously...
 

Cerium

Member
Ah that's right, adult Link's timeline correct? Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess follow the young Link story. I had forgotten that tiny but important detail :p

Nah Wind Waker was adult Link's timeline.

This would be the downfall timeline. We've never had a direct followup to OOT in this timeline before (unless you count ALTTP retroactively) making it a relatively blank slate and the most obvious place to slot it in.

It's not too far-fetched to assume people that aren't invested in Zelda lore are going to think similarly.
It could be a mistake, I emphasized that possibility in the OP from the start, but at the same time these are Nintendo Treehouse employees and not some random forumgoer.
 

QisTopTier

XisBannedTier
Ah that's right, adult Link's timeline correct? Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess follow the young Link story. I had forgotten that tiny but important detail :p


I'm pretty sure this is the link dies time line, there being a Calamity Gannon makes no sense otherwise, the start of the game is suspicious too
 
This was mentioned in the big thread, but didn't somebody at the NYC event take a photo of
some quest dialog that specifically calls him the Hero of Time
?
 

Neptonic

Member
my theory is that Cataclysm Ganon destoyed the timelines, causing all three branches to reconnect, explaining how there are elements of all the games in the same world.
 

Enduin

No bald cap? Lies!
It could, but who used link to revive gannon post zelda 2

May be they didn't use Link's blood but some other means which is why Ganon seems to ethereal and somewhat primal. Also might be why the Guardians are after Link as well beyond just him being an enemy. They need him to fully revive Ganon.
 
And Aonuma sighs, crosses out Breath of the Wild, and draws a fourth timeline branching from Ocarina of Time.

Maybe this is the version that dies? He was in the Shrine of Resurrection at the beginning, after all. Perhaps they put him there to be hidden from Ganon, then the world flooded, and Link's chamber was submerged during Wind Waker, and now that the world has dried, the Hero of Time is ready to be woken to save the world once again?
 

QisTopTier

XisBannedTier
Maybe this is the version that dies? He was in the Shrine of Resurrection at the beginning, after all. Perhaps they put him there to be hidden from Ganon, then the world flooded, and Link's chamber was submerged during Wind Waker, and now that the world has dried, the Hero of Time is ready to be woken to save the world once again?

He doesn't die in the wind waker timeline, he simply never existed in that one

Death timeline is ALttP - > seasons/ages -> zelda 1 -> zelda 2
 
My main issue with this is why she didn't just call him Link. If you are having trouble with a videogame character wouldn't you normally just default to the base name instead of a title? This makes me feel like it might have been an intentional troll to get the internet going.
 

Cerium

Member
I believe it said finish the Hero of Times destiny or something to that effect. Saw it being talked about in the timelins thread I believe.
giphy.gif
 

SoulUnison

Banned
my theory is that Cataclysm Ganon destoyed the timelines, causing all three branches to reconnect, explaining how there are elements of all the games in the same world.

Also, I think Ganon gamed the resurrection cycle by "sealing" Link away rather than outright killing him, so a new Hero wouldn't be born and he had 100 years to do as he pleased.
 

Randomizer

Member
It would be cool if it was a direct sequel and he was indeed the Link from Ocarina of Time. The hero fails timeline would fit perfectly as he could have failed and been put in stasis for 100 years. The problem is the technology is too advanced for OOT and geographic locations of things like Hyrule castle and the Temple of Time don't really line up. Stylistic it's completely different too.

Then you have things like Wind Waker Korok and the Deku tree, salt from an ancient great sea, the Goddess statues from Skyward Sword, Hyrule Town resembling its Twilight Princess incarnation and the King of Hyrule's design looks very similar facial to his Wind Waker model. So realistic it could be set at any point really lol.

I'm just happy that it has a story.

Like, an actual narrative. In my Zelda game.

What even is this?
All Zeldas have a storie, what do you mean by this? Skyward Sword probably has the most cohesive and well told story in the series so far.

I'm not saying best story by the way, Majora's Mask and Link's Awakening are my favourites.
 

13ruce

Banned
Can we still rename Link? I guess not his name is voice acted by Zelda in the beginning.

But honestly it ain't to bad you can still make up what he says lol.
 

MarkusRJR

Member
I'd be excited to see a game fitting in the "hero has fallen" timeline. Honestly, considering the trailer implies Link failing, and being put into a 100 year sleep makes it plausible. Although in my media blackout (excluding trailers) there may already be conflicting info from gameplay footage and Treehouse streams.

They probably wouldn't do it though, just like they won't do a game in the adult/WW timeline where
you play as Zelda and Hyrule floods.
 

rekameohs

Banned
Nah, I bet it's just because "Hero of Time" is the most recognizable moniker for Link, even if it's technically referring to a different Link.
 
Closing my eyes and plugging my ears so I don't hear what the potential spoiler is, but just wanted to say that I sure am real excited for some shitty videogame site to potentially put it in a clickbait headline tomorrow.
 

Tadpole

Member
His hair style is nothing like the Hero of Time. I know that's such a small detail but still, it's a lot like Zeldas 1 through 3.
 
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