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House Intelligence Committee open hearing into Russia links 'cancelled'

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XMonkey

lacks enthusiasm.
You're not understanding what I am saying. I am not talking about people who believe that Trump is implicated in this mess. I am talking about there being anyone left after Comey is fired who would be able to do anything to Trump. If a new director is appointed and squashes the investigation, WHO is going to hold Trump accountable?

We agree that such a move would make him look worse than he already does, which is awful. What else would it do besides that? Who's going to continue investigating and begin pressing charges?
Well, any new Director he picks has to go through the Senate first to be confirmed so that would slow him down. Not everyone in the GOP is blindly supporting Trump anymore (see: AHCA) so it's not like he can make certain the next guy is just gonna be a lapdog and every Republican will just rubberstamp his choice either, especially as his public approval stays in the gutter (him firing Comey isn't going to help that number). However, let's say that happens and then a coverup is forced on a mass scale, the IC would probably just leak what they have at that point. They certainly aren't loyal to Trump. Public pressure on Congress to act would be immense if the evidence is damning, they would not sit idly by and abet in the coverup of such a potentially serious crime.

Nixon probably felt he was untouchable too when he tried to fire the investigators and we know how that ended up for him. Trump doing the same would likely just hasten a similar fate.
 

Slime

Banned
I'm afraid we might be back at square one. Comey got our hopes up by being so direct at the hearing. Meeting with Trump amidst Nunes running interference and all these campaign people suddenly volunteering testimony​ is shady as fuck.

https://youtu.be/8cACp_-1X3M
 

rambis

Banned
This is horseshit. They meet regularly all year long. Grasping at straws doesnt help anyone.


I'm afraid we might be back at square one. Comey got our hopes up by being so direct at the hearing. Meeting with Trump amidst Nunes running interference and all these campaign people suddenly volunteering testimony​ is shady as fuck.

https://youtu.be/8cACp_-1X3M
Please stop this. This is a non story
 
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Deleted member 30609

Unconfirmed Member
Comey is many things, but a brazen idiot probably isn't one of them? He isn't showing up at the White House to discuss, you know, strategy.
 

Zubz

Banned
Only outcome I want from this:

TRUMP ARRESTED BY FBI FOR TREASON

Nah. The outcome I want is that everyone else in his cabal is taken down with him. And hopefully that includes people down the succession line so a Republican is no longer in power.
 

JZA

Member
The Director of the FBI deliberately torpedoed a Presidential election.

Even if Comey does bring down Trump, he deserves to be destroyed for his role in getting that madman into office to begin with.

This makes me hope that perhaps letting Trump get into office was somehow necessary for the investigation to succeed.
 

~Kinggi~

Banned
I find it highly disturbing that amidst the chaos of the health bill you have a lot shady shit going on with Nunes now. Why in the fuck would the head of the investigation suddenly scramble and go rogue, and now some of the worst cockroaches immediately come out of the woodwork with almost smiles that they will happily testify. They arent wording things like they are happy to cut a deal, they are acting like Nunes just leaked all the oppo to them and they are doubling down on testifying that it was all bullshit. And now Comey making a visit to the WH.


This is all fucked and very wrong and needs to be fixed as soon as possible. Im really hoping Nunes wasnt really leaked all the evidence and that they arent all confident now because the investigation is done.
 

Slime

Banned
I find it highly disturbing that amidst the chaos of the health bill you have a lot shady shit going on with Nunes now. Why in the fuck would the head of the investigation suddenly scramble and go rogue, and now some of the worst cockroaches immediately come out of the woodwork with almost smiles that they will happily testify. They arent wording things like they are happy to cut a deal, they are acting like Nunes just leaked all the oppo to them and they are doubling down on testifying that it was all bullshit. And now Comey making a visit to the WH.


This is all fucked and very wrong and needs to be fixed as soon as possible. Im really hoping Nunes wasnt really leaked all the evidence and that they arent all confident now because the investigation is done.

You have Nunes breaking every standard of procedure, the worst suspects gleefully volunteering testimony, and MSNBC saying Trump people are wiping their phones. It really does sound like they discovered the extent of what the FBI had and feel like they're in the clear.
 

jstripes

Banned
You have Nunes breaking every standard of procedure, the worst suspects gleefully volunteering testimony, and MSNBC saying Trump people are wiping their phones. It really does sound like they discovered the extent of what the FBI had and feel like they're in the clear.

What Nunes saw wasn't the same as what the other two saw.

What I want to believe is that Comey had suspicions about Nunes and fed him a bit of information/misinformation to see where he'd go with it.
 

Slime

Banned
What Nunes saw wasn't the same as what the other two saw.

What I want to believe is that Comey had suspicions about Nunes and fed him a bit of information/misinformation to see where he'd go with it.

I want to believe. That's what it sounded like last week, but I'm still freaking out at how blatantly compromised the investigation is.
 

Allard

Member
I want to believe. That's what it sounded like last week, but I'm still freaking out at how blatantly compromised the investigation is.

Need to remind yourself this is but one investigation. Senate Intel and Judicial Committees are doing separate investigations, and most people even before Nunes seem to go awol thought he might be compromised due to people learning Comey had briefing with other house members but Nunes wasn't in those meetings despite being the chairman. All this means is that results in this committee and anything coming from Nunes can't be trusted.
 

KHarvey16

Member
You have Nunes breaking every standard of procedure, the worst suspects gleefully volunteering testimony, and MSNBC saying Trump people are wiping their phones. It really does sound like they discovered the extent of what the FBI had and feel like they're in the clear.

It absolutely does not seem like these people are comfortable.
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
For everyone Diablosing, the FBI does have frequent contact with the Whitehouse and manafort and stone have both stated they would be happy to speak on the record many times. And it's quite plausible comey is there to discus Nunes behavior.

Even if the Whitehouse knew what the FBI had and figures it had a cover story or an out, it most certainly wouldn't end the investigation and whatever they do have, will have a domino effect on other intelligence agencies abroad, almost all of whom have a vested interest in a non Russian patsy running the US.

There is no version of this mess that ends neatly or quickly.
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
Only outcome I want from this:

TRUMP ARRESTED BY FBI FOR TREASON
I think the only person that can actually arrest the President is Paul Irving, the Sergeants at Arms of the House of representatives
 

Surfinn

Member
So when are the three stooges (Manafort, Page, Stone) being interviewed? They're being questioned publicly right?

And I wonder if the Comey meeting had anything to do with Nunes?
 

Vestal

Gold Member
Someone on CNN saying Flynn has a deal with the FBI.

That is a megaton so....

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PantherLotus

Professional Schmuck
Btw y'all should see this: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...before-he-made-trump-surveillance-claims.html

Devin Nunes Vanished the Night Before He Made Trump Surveillance Claims

The Republican intelligence chairman got a message and jumped out of an Uber. The next morning he made a bombshell claim based on classified information.

Hours before the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee announced his shocking claims about surveillance of the Trump transition team on Wednesday morning, he practically disappeared.

Rep. Devin Nunes was traveling with a senior committee staffer in an Uber on Tuesday evening when he received a communication on his phone, three committee officials and a former national security official with ties to the committee told The Daily Beast. After the message, Nunes left the car abruptly, leaving his own staffer in the dark about his whereabouts.

By the next morning, Nunes hastily announced a press conference. His own aides, up to the most senior level, did not know what their boss planned to say next. Nunes’ choice to keep senior staff out of the loop was highly unusual.

:eek:
 

Zubz

Banned
I don't want to get worked up over nothing, but regardless of the veracity of Flynn's involvement, this is, going to turn into a trainwreck.

A worse one, I mean.
 

Davide

Member
It was Juliette Kayyem and it was worded in a very speculative way.
Yeah, sorry, I wasn't listening closely enough the first time. Definitely speculative, but possible and maybe even likely. The exact quote:

"It is starting to look like from my sources and also from open reporting that Mike Flynn is the one who may have the deal with the FBI and that is why we have not heard from him for some time."

This was in the context of talking about how Manafort, Stone, etc are coming in to talk but not Flynn.
 
All this shit going on makes me want an American "The Thick of It" spin-off with Malcolm Tucker running around trying to salvage the fucking omnishambles that is the Trump administration.
 

jvalioli

Member
You have Nunes breaking every standard of procedure, the worst suspects gleefully volunteering testimony, and MSNBC saying Trump people are wiping their phones. It really does sound like they discovered the extent of what the FBI had and feel like they're in the clear.
What's this MSNBC phone wiping thing?
 

Chumley

Banned
Someone on CNN saying Flynn has a deal with the FBI.

That can't possibly be backed by a legit source otherwise it'd be all over the fucking news

Show me those receipts

Also everyone screaming about back to square 1 and Comey colluding with Trump because he was at the white house need to show some receipts too

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Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
That can't possibly be backed by a legit source otherwise it'd be all over the fucking news

Show me those receipts

Also everyone screaming about back to square 1 and Comey colluding with Trump because he was at the white house need to show some receipts too

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It was only speculation.
 
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