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Xbox Scorpio reveal on Thursday at 2pm UK / 6am Pacific by Eurogamer/DF
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What do you know!!
It has to be 399 if they want it to succeed, if it's 499 or higher than it's in big trouble.
Exactly but it won't be less than 400,
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
lmao
AmuroChan
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I don't think most people switched between of the slight performance advantage of the PS4 over X1. Most people switched because of MS's poor messaging initially and launch price point ($399 vs $499).
ISee
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lmao, 4k/60 on a 6tflop gpu and a jaguar based cpu.
This thread and all the hardware speculations are very entertaining.
curiouscharles
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in previous console generations [based on crazy custom tech?] definitely agree.
nowadays and our x86 based architectures [with the two biggest consoles sharing the same damn processor]? we can speculate super accurately based off numbers.
GarthVaderUK
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Yeah, Sony had a winning combo of much better messaging, the power advantage, the price advantage and most of the games library being the same between the two consoles, so it made sense for a lot of people to jump ship this gen.
DagnastyEp
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Time to throw down my final predictions:
CPU: 8 physical Zen cores, clocked between 2.4 and 2.8 ghz.
GPU: Vega based. I think the GPU will come in slightly over 6TF, I'm guessing at least 6.1. 48-56 CUs, clocked between 900-1000mhz.
RAM: I think total RAM will be 16GB, with 4GB of DDR3/4 for OS and apps.
Price: I expect this to be revealed at a later time. My guess is $450.
It will be very interesting to learn more about MS's design choices for Scorpio.
CPU: 8 physical Zen cores, clocked between 2.4 and 2.8 ghz.
GPU: Vega based. I think the GPU will come in slightly over 6TF, I'm guessing at least 6.1. 48-56 CUs, clocked between 900-1000mhz.
RAM: I think total RAM will be 16GB, with 4GB of DDR3/4 for OS and apps.
Price: I expect this to be revealed at a later time. My guess is $450.
It will be very interesting to learn more about MS's design choices for Scorpio.
Killroyskbg
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Lol you really belive people will abandon their game librarys, friend lists etc just for a bit cleaner picture on Xbox? These half gen increases is for those already incested in the system. And I dont think Sony care that much if Xbox starts doing better in the US they dont get their majority of sales from there like Xbox.
IdreamofHIME
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Digital Foundry now working as agents of the publishers? Well that's me unsubscribed.
Industry is so fucking murky..
Industry is so fucking murky..
What?
HighResTomato
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Jeeezuss you guys going to upset the #bunker discord group.
Sad Affleck
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...what?
Lockjaw333
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I don't mean this to be condescending, but ask yourself who is actually going to buy this thing at a $600 price point.
Interfectum
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Jaguar Victory
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To this date no-one has convinced me that the only CPU change we get in 4 years is an upclock to the current CPU. No way it stays Jaguar. I just can't see it.
thats true but how many times have you heard that this game runs better on ps4 or looks better. people i know keep bringing up that fact trying to make me sell my xbone and buy a ps4
Do you like turtles tho?
CrimsonEclipse
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Nah, all mem is unified...ain't gonna be DDR3/4.
Oh boy
JeffG
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VincentMatts
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lol we have to keep quoting this for at least 2 pages. Theyre all out today!
Bitch Pudding
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curiouscharles
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what?
how did you come to this conclusion exactly?
they've got exclusive / first release rights to an awesome hardware story...
we should be happy for DF, this will get them some great traffic due to the nature of this news - and it's well deserved based on the quality of their insight, work, and writing.
they are still an independent operation and will continue writing about everything they always have.
i fully expect this article to include some criticisms / concerns of the Scorpio hardware [if they find any].
if anything, just speaks to the confidence MS must have in the hardware.
CallMeTy
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I had to read this multiple times to make sure I wasn't trippin.
It does have 'Digital Foundry are sellouts' on it.
How can we trust their comparisons in the future ?
rokkerkory
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This is cute.
tokenflipguy
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MeisterLeder
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You are not forced to buy one you know?
Microsoft has a lot of games coming this fall. You cant please everyone.
So dont buy Scorpio. Other like me who dont game on a PC will buy it.
Exactly!! Everyone comparing it to sony reasoning for the PRO when MS does there OS different. Excavator has been out for a few awhile in laptops, etc with much better performance at lower power than Jaguar. It makes no sense to dust off Jaguar when they can pick up it's successor that can fill it's roll.
Interficium
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We need an investigation!
ISee
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It isn't on the Pro:
"We felt games needed a little more memory about 10 percent more so we added a gigabyte of slow, conventional DRAM to the console," said Mark Cerny, lead system architect for the PS4, in a lengthy interview with Digital Foundry. The extra DRAM is different from the consoles existing 8 GB of GDDR5 graphics memory; its not meant to be used for games.
Cerny explained that the current PS4 uses part of its fast GDDR5 RAM for multitasking, keeping nongaming apps like Netflix in memory to allow for quick switching between a game and something else. Thats not the best use of the graphics RAM, which is why Sony added the slower DDR3 memory to the PS4 Pro.
Delusibeta
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I'm expecting the "big revelations" to be primarily software, since AMD has made it very, very clear multiple times that Zen SoCs aren't going to be available this year. Plus, pulling off backwards compatibility as well as they did indicates that their OS team is very, very good.
So, I'm going to guess the revelation is "proper" Windows 10, and subsequently Steam support.
The fact that Microsoft isn't doing a showy reveal (and, indeed, is giving the reveal job to the gaming press) indicates to me that they don't expect to be selling huge numbers of Scorpios, and that they will continue to consider the OG Xbone their primary format. Which mirrors Sony's position, and given how (not particularly) well the PS4 Pro sold in comparison to the Slim, it's probably a wise decision.
So, I'm going to guess the revelation is "proper" Windows 10, and subsequently Steam support.
The fact that Microsoft isn't doing a showy reveal (and, indeed, is giving the reveal job to the gaming press) indicates to me that they don't expect to be selling huge numbers of Scorpios, and that they will continue to consider the OG Xbone their primary format. Which mirrors Sony's position, and given how (not particularly) well the PS4 Pro sold in comparison to the Slim, it's probably a wise decision.
Did DF make pre-release technical reviews before ?
Interficium
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Do they though.
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
Something tells me you regret typing this silliness.
Compsiox
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A video with 10 minutes of fade in/out closeup cuts and the event date.
They just want you to use Windows.
I don't even understand what you are saying. Are you saying that Microsoft is going to influence...DF...into being bias about...hardware specs?
just my experience.
online mp population is alot better on console than pc
how many games are not optimized for pc? half the threads i see on gaf are about how shitty the ports are.
to be honest, i dont think msft cares. their more into people using their platform and controlling it
why do you think they are competing with steam. they figure they will get parts of both markets (pc and console)
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