Zeouterlimits
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Just finished.
Bye bye my save O_O
Bye bye my save O_O
Ok wow. Some Japanese fellow literally just added me on steam and said they wanted to say thanks in person for saving them in the E Ending credits. (though google translate obviously)
Wow.
Yeah, that seems a bit short sighted in context of how they handle that ending. They might have a way to access it pretty quickly, but I guess you wouldn't have all the weapons or high end chips.DLC is nice, I wish I had a save to use it on!
Well, Devola and Popola models were among the androids who sent human data to the moon. So even if by the time the YoRHa project actually started they were already being ostracized (I don't remember if the game makes the order particularly clear), they still in a way had a hand in that.
So, while their personal story is indeed an outcast one about prejudice and discrimination, they still played a fundamental role in another one of the most important events in history. Overseeing Project Gestalt, and basically putting the gears of Project YoRHa in motion, that's pretty huge.
Ok wow. Some Japanese fellow literally just added me on steam and said they wanted to say thanks in person for saving them in the E Ending credits. (though google translate obviously)
Wow.
I don't remember the game saying that were Popola and Devola models the ones that send the data to the moon? It's more that it was agreed by al androids?
And it's also said that after Nier 1 events tension arised between Androids and P&D models started to get the blame.
To me it feels like the YoHRa project came from someone else, considering by the point the alien invasion happened it is said (or atleast that's what I understood in the game) P&D models were already made outcasts, I don't see how they have something to say in the project in that state. YoHRa project is afterall something "relatively" new in Automata timeline.
Not the ones, but among them, definitely. It's mentioned in their memories:
And that was a bit before people started to hate their models for what happened.
I agree that they probably weren't directly involved, but the launch of human stuff to the moon is at the core of the YoRHa project, and the twins would be able to reveal the truth if their memory wasn't wiped, even if they weren't directly involved with the creation of the plan as we know it.
Just like they're not directly responsible for creating Project Gestalt or the replicants, but were overseeing the entire project, so in a way also were an important contribution to it succeeding.
Well, it didn't, but still...
Wow this game, just wow the beauty it encompassed the sense of loss, the sense of hatred, the sense of love, the sense of regret(if you give up at the end), the sense of accomplishment, the sense of teamwork, all of it was so beautifully crafted, I applaud Square Enix and Platinum Games for this endeavour, the amount of gameplay, story and amazing voice work was just flawless, probably one of the most well versed games I've played this generation, the ending was amazing, giving us a chance to reach the true ending with the help of others from all over the world, giving you advice, not to give up, the ending credits was just a masterpiece in itself every time you died you didn't want to give up no matter what! The ending has given us all a sense of hope for a sequel with a return of the cast!
Man, I just got Endings D & E after completing Ending C last night.......that ending was AMAZING! Who woulda thought a shoot-the-credits sequence could be so powerful, when I kept dying near the end & then received help from all the other players as the ensemble of voices came together to sing the theme song - BEAUTIFUL. I chose to sacrifice my save data to save another player somewhere out there in the world, but I do have a save file uploaded to the PSN cloud, so I hope I can go back - it seems I missed A LOT, like people talking about the Emil boss fight, when did I miss this?
I really enjoyed the game a lot but my mind overall is kinda mush about the general story. The latter half of Route C just confused me, can someone here summarize the overall narrative?
Just finished ending E
I have a question - what was with all the slideshow things in route B? There was one that was pretty obviously about the godzilla thing... but there were a few others that still don't make sense to me. The big one being "Every machine has an object that is different, but unique to them" or whatever.
Just finished ending E
I have a question - what was with all the slideshow things in route B? There was one that was pretty obviously about the godzilla thing... but there were a few others that still don't make sense to me. The big one being "Every machine has an object that is different, but unique to them" or whatever.
Man, I just got Endings D & E after completing Ending C last night.......that ending was AMAZING! Who woulda thought a shoot-the-credits sequence could be so powerful, when I kept dying near the end & then received help from all the other players as the ensemble of voices came together to sing the theme song - BEAUTIFUL. I chose to sacrifice my save data to save another player somewhere out there in the world, but I do have a save file uploaded to the PSN cloud, so I hope I can go back - it seems I missed A LOT, like people talking about the Emil boss fight, when did I miss this?
I really enjoyed the game a lot but my mind overall is kinda mush about the general story. The latter half of Route C just confused me, can someone here summarize the overall narrative?
Ok, this seems dumb in retrospect, but I'm not gonna lie, I was reallllllllly expecting there to be a twist where the machine cores are actually gestalts or something. And that was the reason they acted like humans, and would explain that "every piece has its place" cut scene mentioned above. There was also that scene where 9s obliterated that core in the tower after it begged for help. None of that actually proves my theory in retrospect. I kinda just never bought into the whole aliens thing, seems too silly. Then again, this is NieR....
All this talking about ending D made me realized that the machines had already evolved to move on from their original programming while androids are still stuck worshipping dead gods. So who's the inferior species again?
All this talking about ending D made me realized that the machines had already evolved to move on from their original programming while androids are still stuck worshipping dead gods. So who's the inferior species again?
Welcome.
There's no escape.
Send help pls.
The only way to escape is to become as gods.
Welp time to go back to sleepSo, more thinking
Pascal. I'm starting to wonder if his tragedy is even worse...Like thats actually possible.
When the insane machines go to attack the A2, Pascal, and the children Pascal insists on helping, and his attitude finally changes. His pacifism fails.
See at this point I had expected a different outcome from Pascal. I figured the loss of his pacifism would directly relate to whatever tragedy was guaranteed to befall him at this point. However it did not. The children all killed themselves out of fear.
What if though my initial expectation was right. The children were taught fear and Pascal blamed himself for that, but what if its even worse. What if what they were truly afraid of was actually Pascal.
this was before he left the room
Pascal straight up has the best story arc in the game imo, and the saddest.Oh, and Pascal is the best side character of the generation.
Pascal straight up has the best story arc in the game imo, and the saddest.
I just assumed terrible things were in store for everyone.Is there anyone that saw that Pascal called himself a pacifist, and did not immediately assume something horrible was going to happen to him?
-Big Summary-
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I just assumed terrible things were in store for everyone.
After Routes A/B I was thinking things probably wouldn't be so bad after all.
Then Route C happened.
I never really had much attachment to the YoRHa units though and I don't think the game, well, I don't want to say doesn't do a good enough job, but it doesn't establish them in a way that makes their own tragedies and revelations strong for me. Pascal though, Pascal did nothing wrong. Pascal just wanted his own little happy village. All Pascal does now is unwittingly sell me pieces of the corpses that were once his villagers.
Maybe I'm a sucker for how much the game blindsides you with it but I love 2E/9S's relationship the most.
Wrapped up my platinum and went through all the intel and weapon stories.
A couple of them reference father Nier, which is odd as I thought it was the brother that was considered canon. Even the DLC costumes are based off the brother.
Wrapped up my platinum and went through all the intel and weapon stories.
A couple of them reference father Nier, which is odd as I thought it was the brother that was considered canon. Even the DLC costumes are based off the brother.
Yoko: Replicant and Gestalt are not parallel universes, but rather they fall into the world's pattern of repetition. Regarding the relationship with Yonah, sometimes they are siblings whereas others they are father and child. That is the reason for the discrepancy of time between the two versions of the game.
This is what i can find online after a few google searches:
The Replicants Nier's story takes place 104 years after Gestalt Nier's story in the timeline, so it takes place in 3361 for Papa Nier and 3465 for Replicant Nier.
i got it from that google doc that translates that nker grimoire japan got dunno if it is 100% accurate tho.Wait what
Wrapped up my platinum and went through all the intel and weapon stories.
A couple of them reference father Nier, which is odd as I thought it was the brother that was considered canon. Even the DLC costumes are based off the brother.
This is what i can find online after a few google searches:
The Replicants Nier's story takes place 104 years after Gestalt Nier's story in the timeline, so it takes place in 3361 for Papa Nier and 3465 for Replicant Nier.
IIRC the references to father Nier were a change made in localization.
i got it from that google doc that translates that nker grimoire japan got dunno if it is 100% accurate tho.
As I recall, Nier: Gestalt and Replicant take place on two separate timelines, but ultimately have the same effect: leading to Automata.Wait what
Nice.I followed this game pretty much all the way from announcement to release. Saw a lot of concept art as a result.
My avatar's from concept art of the machine's skin being peeled ALLL the way off! Pretty clear resemblance there.