I'm detecting some definite chemistry between you 2.
Let's get it started in here
I'm detecting some definite chemistry between you 2.
It is a word that I still have to actively try not to use. It slips out every once in a while.
I'm also from Boston so...you know...EVERYONE says it up here.
I'm detecting some definite chemistry between you 2.
I get it. I just don't agree with the need for it.
It is a word that I still have to actively try not to use. It slips out every once in a while.
I'm also from Boston so...you know...EVERYONE says it up here.
Must be tough without the R sound
Lol I can just imagine with the accent right? "Retahhhded". I have a close friend who lives in Everett, just outside Boston so I can imagine it pretty well.
I thought it evolved into "autistic" and "cuck".
YesAm I the only one who thought "r-slur" in the title was referring to the way white people think racist is a slur word?
The dictionary also says ketchup is spicy. When's the last time you heard someone say "bad weather retarded our progress" or any variant of that usage?
Yes, it certainly is. It's very hurtful to neurodivergent people such as myself.
Yeah, I believe you. I find it hard to believe it's being used in the context that I'm discussing in this thread though--in fact I wouldn't have made a thread if that was the context I heard it the majority of the timeI think retarded is a dumb insult that hurts the mental health community, but I'd like to point out that retard, as in impeding something is actually pretty commonly used, particularly in the sciences.
To give one example, any electrical engineer or physicist can explain what a retarded potential is and why it is important.
Words matter, but context matters too. Not every use of the word retard or retarded is meant as an insult, and one should not take it to be that way.
What I'm interested in is if people observe a difference in severity between "retarded" and "autistic" in terms of being synonyms for stupid. To me the latter is many orders of magnitudes more severe no doubt in my mind. But I guess to the more socially evolved they may both be the same amount of deplorable. If you're in that group of people, do you still recognize that there are people like me who see a difference? Or are we just completely blind?
IDK, language is interesting.
Yeah, I believe you. I find it hard to believe it's being used in the context that I'm discussing in this thread though--in fact I wouldn't have made a thread if that was the context I heard it the majority of the time
Am I the only one who thought "r-slur" in the title was referring to the way white people think racist is a slur word?
I was half expecting this to be trying to turn the word "racist" into an ethnic slur, got to be honest.
But on topic, I'd have to imagine 4chan and the like play into this as well.
Whats wrong with fuck. lmfaoIt's definitely not a nice word but calling retarded "the R-word" when it's an actual term is pretty ridiculous. Getting offended by its use is one thing, but censoring it like it's an f-bomb is another.
asswipesIf someone has a more accurate way to refer to the actions of my organization's developers I'd like to hear it.
I've just always wanted to use the term "f-bomb"Whats wrong with fuck. lmfao
Self censorship is dumb. IMO, say the word or dont. If you say it with context it wont be offensive to anyone. Aside from that "Fuck" is a fun word.It's definitely not a nice word but calling retarded "the R-word" when it's an actual term is pretty ridiculous. Getting offended by its use is one thing, but censoring it like it's an f-bomb is another.
Saying gay and retard were fine growing up. Then in hs there was this huge push to stop the word from being said and same for saying anything lame as gay or calling someone a faggot. I agree with this, it's just toxic to say. It makes it a negative to be gay.
I get it. I just don't agree with the need for it.
For the record, I feel you and I agree in some ways. I think there's an argument to be made that for being disabled to be a negative, it's that not being able to do certain things makes a person less, which I don't think is inherently true.
It took me until my second special education course to permanently switch to person-first descriptions of people with disabilities
It's a word I'm trying to use less. It sometimes slips out when I refer to a situation as "this is fucking retarded". Can't say I've used it towards people really. I also don't really think it's a "Trump's America" thing really when you have pretty liberal people like Destiny using it on the regular. Honestly, I've always heard the term used quite often. It hasn't really died off like calling things "gay".
Nah, it's never not been a thing, you've just noticed it more.
I would also not call Neogaf a progressive haven.
Nah, it's never not been a thing, you've just noticed it more.
I would also not call Neogaf a progressive haven.
Even "liberal" people don't necessarily think about or care much about the disabled community. Most people never even think about them if they don't know anyone on the spectrum, it literally just never occurs to them that that word can be easily interpreted as a pejorative.
...aaaaand case in point.This post is funny because "idiot" and "moron" used to mean the same thing retard did.
Not sure why we draw the line at retard. Seems like using it a lot would rob it of any power it has, just like idiot and moron.
Probably, yes. He is a bully. He excites bullies everywhere. He empowers people to be more boorish and obscene. All the morons in this country see this as their big chance to behave more idiotically.
According to google trends, the word "retard" dropped significantly in March of 2016 and hasn't really recovered. It's used most often in North African countries and France. Related topics apparently include Tropic Thunder and Ann Coulter.
This post is funny because "idiot" and "moron" used to mean the same thing retard did.
Not sure why we draw the line at retard. Seems like using it a lot would rob it of any power it has, just like idiot and moron.
.According to google trends, the word "retard" dropped significantly in March of 2016 and hasn't really recovered. It's used most often in North African countries and France. Related topics apparently include Tropic Thunder and Ann Coulter.
This post is funny because "idiot" and "moron" used to mean the same thing retard did.
Not sure why we draw the line at retard. Seems like using it a lot would rob it of any power it has, just like idiot and moron.
Dumb/idiot/moron are antiquated in ways that "retarded" are not. We are much farther removed from those being terms with any meaning beyond their colloquial ones than we are with retarded.
Further, speaking as someone who has a low-functioning autistic brother, who many people have referred to as being a "retard" for the sake of harming him through out his life, I'm gonna go ahead and tell you to stop it with this bullshit.
Am I the only one who thought "r-slur" in the title was referring to the way white people think racist is a slur word?
Bet. I hear you bro, I mean with my group of friends we say crazy shit as well, but I figured if you guys say all that, the "r" word seems small potatoes in comparison.
Sup Ninja, relax bro. I know I get you worked up but be nice now kid.
Not sure why we draw the line at retard.
Because "retard" came into use as a slur for the intellectually disabled in pretty recent memory and was still in wide use when English-speaking society generally decided it was wrong to insult and belittle people for mental disability, while "idiot" had already long since softened to a less specific and less harsh meaning.
I'd rather see the word robbed of its power so people stop being derogatory assholes, personally.
I'd rather see the word robbed of its power so people stop being derogatory assholes, personally.
I find your argument about the word's temporal presence lacking because no matter when "idiot" was used, it was still a slur. If disabled people were hurt by that, and I presume they were, it was still discourteous and offensive.
Your passive aggression doesn't bother me.That is the same argument that edgy white boy YouTubers make for wanting to be allowed to drop the n-word
I mean if someone magically invents the way to do that I'm sure there's people who'd be interested to hear about it. Reclaiming slurs is incredibly difficult, arguably "queer" is the closest anyone's gotten to doing it thoroughly and it takes years of dedicated effort by a united political movement and a network of allies who help in recontextualizing the meaning. Whether or not there was a point where that was a plausible direction for "retard," it's not on the table today.