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Okja |OT| An Seo Hyun, Swinton, Gyllenhaal - A film by Bong Joon Ho - Netflix 6/28

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A gentle giant and the girl who raised her are caught in the crossfire between animal activism, corporate greed and scientific ethics.

Release date: June 28th on Netflix.

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Cast:

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An Seo Hyun as Mija, Tilda Swinton as Lucy Mirando, Jake Gyllenhaal as Dr. Johnny Wilcox

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Paul Dano as Jay, Steven Yeun as K, Byun Hee-bong as Heebong

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Lily Collins as Red, Yoon Je-moon as Mundo Park, Giancarlo Esposito as Frank Dawson

Reviews:

  • AV Club:

    One might call the movie a clash of different cartoon sensibilities. On the one hand, there are the scenes between Mija and her loyal, genetically engineered best friend, which in their finest moments bring to mind the work of Hayao Miyazaki’s Studio Ghibli, rendered in loving action. On the other, there are the wacky and outlandish caricatures of largely English-language Mirando sections, with over-the-top press conferences, and Thanksgiving Parade-sized pig balloons, and Gyllenhaal’s manic, deeply bitter, sweat-soaked Dr. Johnny jumping around like a cross between Steve Irwin and Richard Simmons. Perhaps the fact that these two sides of the film seem incompatible is intentional: The bucolic values of agrarian life don’t sit well with the crassness of the corporate blitz. It might be blunt, but at least it’s a point.
  • Variety:

    Shot in bright, cinematic widescreen by DP Darius Khondji, this Netflix-produced feature belongs on the big screen, where no one would mistake Okja for a real animal, and yet the CG is convincing enough to suspend disbelief. Bong has chosen to make Okja a larger-than-life animal, but she could just as easily be a talking pig (there’s plenty of “Babe” DNA here already) — the key is that his audience be able to recognize her soul. And yet, Mirando employees repeatedly insist that super-pig meat is quite the delicacy, which puts audiences in the strange position of wondering how the movie’s main character might taste.
  • The Guardian:

    There is something inspired in the way the director handles the contrast between the bucolic paradise in which Mija and Okja have grown up together and the alien jungle of the big city. The narrative dynamic is comparable to King Kong in its way; but less adult and less obviously knowing. The scenes at the beginning where Mija loses her footing and Okja instinctively improvises a rescue are tremendously conceived. And the digital creation of Okja is itself brought off with terrific skill. The pure energy and likability of this film make it such a pleasure.
  • Slant Magazine:

    Okja's first half is the most surpassingly lovely passage in Bong's career, abounding in the casual magic that one associates with a Miyazaki or an early Spielberg film.

Promo photos:

 
Adjust expectations, it's definitely his worst film. Still worth a watch.

Really? The Host was pretty substandard in my eyes. The critic response has been pretty positive. Hoping to catch a theatre screening tomorrow at TIFF. Still, BIG expectations.
 

Krev

Unconfirmed Member
Really? The Host was pretty substandard in my eyes. The critic response has been pretty positive. Hoping to catch a theatre screening tomorrow at TIFF. Still, BIG expectations.
I love The Host, so you might totally disagree.

Usually Bong Joon Ho movies give me a big pleasure rush from all these clashing tones coming together to create this weird new feeling of unease and energy. There's a couple of moments where that feeling almost comes together but for the most part it ends up feeling like disjointed parts from a bunch of different films that don't work together. With the exception of Giancarlo Esposito's nicely restrained turn, the Mirando corp people have stepped out of this really loud cartoon satire with overwritten faux clever dialogue. They never feel like they belong in the same film with Mija, who's like a Miyazaki heroine.

The animal rights activists lead by Paul Dano work better, and their material balances the serious commentary with comedy nicely. But Bong can't help himself in overindulging in grotesque caricature that's over stressing the point whenever he focuses closely on the political/social satire elements.

Bong is still a really good action filmmaker and there's some fun chases early on, but this lacks the kind of ingenious visuals and staging that made his earlier work stand out. The direction is much more conventional than I was expecting.

The above reads really negative but the movie is definitely interesting and unusual and has some great moments, so I would encourage anyone interested to check it out. A friend of mine completely loved it. I just went in with huge expectations, as Bong Joon-Ho is one of my favourite working filmmakers.

Just saying, adjust expectations. Outside of Peter Bradshaw's 5 star take, the reviews are less gushing than what' greeted everything else Bong's put out.
 
Yes.

Yeah, uh...again, adjust expectations. Bong's given her waaaaay too much free reign here, and I'm a Tilda fan.

Fuck. She is the main reason I was skeptical about this. I found her annoying in Snowpiercer, somewhat annoying in general but especially when she pushes too hard the 'wacky' aspect of her personality. A bit like Johnny Depp. But in the trailer she did look annoying.
I was hopeful :/
 

Krev

Unconfirmed Member
Fuck. She is the main reason I was skeptical about this. I found her annoying in Snowpiercer, somewhat annoying in general but especially when she pushes too hard the 'wacky' aspect of her personality. A bit like Johnny Depp. But in the trailer she did look annoying.
I was hopeful :/
Haha, you're going to hate her performance.
The weird thing is that her, Gyllenhaal (terrible in this btw) and their crew feel like they've come from a completely different film from everyone else. Snowpiercer did something similar but it worked better there because the entire world of that film felt wacky so it's not so out of place when the earnest heroes run into freakish cartoon villains. Okja is set in something much closer to the real world so it's hard to buy into their existence.
 
Is bucolic the word of the day or something?

Anyways I'm in. Trailers made it seem more crazy than quality and I'm ok with that.
 
While I love The Host, I absolutely despise Snowpiercer, enough that I'm wary of anything Bong Joon-Ho does in the future.

These review snippets and replies don't inspire enough confidence for me to check it out.
 
Bong Joon Ho is my favorite director working today so I'm looking forward to this. I didn't love Snowpiercer but it was still an interesting film.
The Cannes controversy was just bullshit.
 

Fletcher

Member
Pretty stoked to see this. I've heard great things about it. I had a ticket to see it on Monday in a theater, but had to miss out because of work. Can't wait to load it up tonight.
 
Adjust expectations, it's definitely his worst film. Still worth a watch.

pfft. even his worst film would be a better watch then alot of good films. dude makes masterpieces.

with that said so far, watched a little bit but bout to finish making breakfast, but so far, so good. and the directing is amazing as usual.
 

takoyaki

Member
Loved every Bong Joon Ho movie I've seen so far. I slightly preferred Mother and MoaM to his more action-filled movies like The Host and Snowpiercer, but I'm still very excited to check out Okja :)

For HomecinemaGAF: Okja is the first Netflix movie that offers Dolby Atmos sound if you watch it on the Xbox ONE Netflix app or wait for the upcoming LG OLED Netflix update that will enable it for their TVs.
 

holygeesus

Banned
It's also in Dolby Vision on Netflix and looks utterly stunning. We both enjoyed it. The last 25 minutes or so are genuinely affecting.

There is also a post-credit scene in case anyone else nearly misses it.
 

number11

Member
It's hilarious seeing Jake Gyllenhaal hamming it up in this film. Don't think I've seen him play this type of role before.
 
For HomecinemaGAF: Okja is the first Netflix movie that offers Dolby Atmos sound if you watch it on the Xbox ONE Netflix app or wait for the upcoming LG OLED Netflix update that will enable it for their TVs.

Oh. Well. Hmm. I DID just buy that Atmos for Headphones software for Windows...
 
just finished. Great movie. I'd give it an 8/10

Directing was a 10/10 but movie overall was 8/10.

Almost teared up near the end.

My only complaint really is Jake went a little to overboard.

Also, theres post credit scenes.
 
I'm a big Bong joon-ho fan, especially Memories of Murder. This was quality, but with some very clear flaws. Most of it is down to Tilda and Jake's performances tbh. We're used to kinda wacky stuff in his other films, but those two are jarring in this.
 
Wow, I loved this.

I suppose it wouldn't have done well in theaters, but it's a shame it never had the chance. Hopefully people pick up on this film.
 
Just finished. It's good, not great. Writing felt iffy at points and most characters are just stereotypes. Relation between Miji and Okja worked and that's were the heart of the movie lies.

2.5/4

Edit: To add one thing. I feel like the tone shifts too much. It gets really dark at some points.
 
Could someone who's seen it please say, without spoilers, what the tone is overall?

Will you walk away sad? (Please spoiler tag answer but don't include any spoilers 😂)
 

superfly

Junior Member
Mostly great with the exception of Jake Gyllenhalls character. That and some shoddy writing in parts. But the overall tone and allegory of the film was on point.
 

Kalor

Member
That was enjoyable. The directing was good and the relationship between Mija and Okja worked well, which you would hope it does considering the movie revolves around it. I'm not sure how to feel about the Mirando characters and the environmental group. They could be interesting but weren't really given enough time to develop.

I should probably get round to watching the rest of the directors films.
 
That was enjoyable. The directing was good and the relationship between Mija and Okja worked well, which you would hope it does considering the movie revolves around it. I'm not sure how to feel about the Mirando characters and the environmental group. They could be interesting but weren't really given enough time to develop.

I should probably get round to watching the rest of the directors films.

all of his other films are excellent with memories of murder, and the host as standouts. (also those 2 are in tarantino's top 20 films of all time).

I think memories of murder and mother are his best tho
 
A fantastic and beautiful movie. Really love this.

The last act is excellent and works really well. They make you feel for Okja and its kind. Found the ending quite emotional. The relationship between girl and Okja is believable and you feel for it.

I didn't find the tone too uneven. Snowpiercer I found about as uneven. A couple of whacky characters. I actually really like the whack performances here, especially Gyllenhall who is an alcoholic animal presenter, so it kinda makes sense. Its funny.

I was disappointed with the casting of Paul Dano though. I mean, couldn't get someone a bit better?
 

berzeli

Banned
I loved it, it's definitely the best original Netflix film (not that it is saying much). The post credits scene was a nice touch.

Could someone who's seen it please say, without spoilers, what the tone is overall?
Free Willy but with swearing. I did not think that it had any tonal issues or jarring tonal shifts.
Will you walk away sad? (Please spoiler tag answer but don't include any spoilers 😂)
Yes, and no. Or, no and yes. Depending on what you view as the main conflict of the film.
 
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