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One Piece Manga |OT3| Anything You Can Gum I Can Gum Better

SolVanderlyn

Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Music is one thing the anime has going for it along with voices and color
 
So who will Sanji fight to get the ingredients to make this cake?

There's Opera with his cream devil fruit. No idea where he is. He probably hauled ass after messing up.

And he'll need flour, eggs, sugar, yadda yadda...
 
The biggest niggle I see with the "Sanji bakes a cake" theory is that Big Mom's rampages are based on a craving for a specific food, and the wedding cake was made with rare ingredients that her crew had to go and get.
 

Ray Down

Banned
The biggest niggle I see with the "Sanji bakes a cake" theory is that Big Mom's rampages are based on a craving for a specific food, and the wedding cake was made with rare ingredients that her crew had to go and get.

Can just be that Sanji has shown to be a total miracle worker with food and a master chef considering what he did at Punk Hazard and using the 99 cooking skills/recipes of the Kamabakka Kingdom that can make up for it, he a man that can turn Mcdonalds into a 5 star meal.

Plus he can have some of the ingredients come from the food based DF users like Perospero since while Strusan food from his DF is terrible (probably just a DF drawback of just being able to make everything), we have seen Pero and people like Compote make stuff with there DF and people happily eating it at the wedding so I doubt its terrible or else they just spit it out.
 

BatDan

Bane? Get them on board, I'll call it in.
If any Logia is going to join, it's someone with little fighting experience and just got the Devil Fruit.
Can't upset the power balance.
 

Runner67

Member
If any Logia is going to join, it's someone with little fighting experience and just got the Devil Fruit.
Can't upset the power balance.

That's why the fan theory where Carrot gets the snow logia is a pretty good one. She can certainly fight, but her power isn't broken, nor she'd know how to control it properly right away.
 

Euphony

Banned
I don't like Monet but (knowing Oda) she still alive guys.

On the one hand she was both stabbed in the heart by Caesar and then blown up with the island, but on the other hand we never got any confirmation she died either through someone saying it or seeing her body.
 
As implausible as it sounds, you can survive getting stabbed in the heart depending on where the wound is, how deep the stab was, and how quickly you receive proper medical attention.
 

Ray Down

Banned
On the one hand she was both stabbed in the heart by Caesar and then blown up with the island, but on the other hand we never got any confirmation she died either through someone saying it or seeing her body.

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No really hole from the looks of it and no blood leaking out, hell the take planted in the ground so it didn't just pop out and plant into the ground (that and no blood on it from the looks of it)

Pell survived a bomb directly so its not impossible she survived, Oda very rarely kills off characters and if the fruit was on the ship nami would have noticed by know since with Smiley its been shown to be automatic and quick.

She probably just irrelevant after this and alive doing her own thing like former BW members.
 

MANUELF

Banned
Yes. 2.5 if you wanna count Sabo. I say .5 because it's admittedly kind of applicable, but hey, he did interact with Dragon, so at least it made sense looking back.
I say Skypeia was worst with everyone be hit by millions of volts and surviving with some light burns
 

Runner67

Member
I don't like Monet but (knowing Oda) she still alive guys.

The thing is, she would have been shown by now if she lived. Her crew is basically gone now, and she never was featured in a cover story. She likely has no more relevance to the story. And Vergo is totally dead, so why not Monet? It was supposed to make the fight personal for Doflamingo, and on top of that, why didn't he get them from the island if they were alive?

It was implied that they both died.

And if her devil fruit was in Nami's tangerine shrub, it would have been shown by now.


Not entirely true. Regardless if the fruit is on the shrub, none of them ate Nami's tangerines to begin with. It could be a plot point that Oda want's to save (as there are a lot of things going on already in this arc).

The most important thing is Caesar is now free and will be very likely forced to board the Strawhat ship to escape the islands (He can't just fly away, he uses up stamina, which was shown in Dressrosa). The point is, if he is with them, he can explain the entire Devil Fruit Reincarnation phenomena to the Straw Hats as Carrot obtains the power (if she does).


The whole Smiley phenomenon was entirely random but could have been left for us to guess something like this.
 

LotusHD

Banned
I say Skypeia was worst with everyone be hit by millions of volts and surviving with some light burns

Nah, One Piece characters have been known for their crazy durability, it's whatever, even something like that. I'm talking more the scenes where it clearly looks like someone died, only for it to later turn out that nah, they didn't.

Pell looked like he died, but he didn't.
Monet definitely looked like she died, and she better stay dead.
Sabo looked like he died, but he didn't, but I can at least excuse it due to Dragon being in the vicinity, as well as us never seeing a body. The amnesia thing kind of iffy, but fuck it, Sabo's cool.

Yea, we haven't seen a body for Monet either, but yea... Oda gonna have a lot of explaining to do if she ever shows up again lmao

She had no one else prominent close by. She's heavily injured at the very least if she didn't die from the stabbing. She even had a sad af last conversation with Doffy. And then the whole place blows up? Anyways, don't wanna rehash this very old argument, but it'd be something else if she came back lol

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Actually, we talk about how she doing her own thing, but how long has it even been since Punk Hazard anyways? Because wasn't that arc and Dressrosa all done in the same day?
 

Runner67

Member
Nah, One Piece characters have been known for their crazy durability, it's whatever, even something like that. I'm talking more the scenes where it clearly looks like someone died, only for it to later turn out that nah, they didn't.

Pell looked like he died, but he didn't.
Monet definitely looked like she died, and she better stay dead.
Sabo looked like he died, but he didn't, but I can at least excuse it due to Dragon being in the vicinity, as well as us never seeing a body. The amnesia thing kind of iffy, but fuck it, Sabo's cool.

Yea, we haven't seen a body for Monet either, but yea... Oda gonna have a lot of explaining to do if she ever shows up again lmao


The thing is, Sabo surviving was totally alluded to within the same flashback because Ivankov was freaking out about wounds a certain boy had, it wasn't even a plot twist. Pell on the other hand.....silly. I totally think Monet is dead. Doflamingo would have collected his crew members if they were still alive. He only came for the other 2.


I really still am a firm supporter that Oda showed the transfer of smiley's devil fruit to the apple to specifically allude to it happening in the future. Monet dying and her devil fruit ending up on one of the oranges would not be unheard of. With Caesar likely going to have to leave WCI with the SH's, I can totally see it happen now, with him explaining it.
 

LotusHD

Banned
The thing is, Sabo surviving was totally alluded to within the same flashback because Ivankov was freaking out about wounds a certain boy had, it wasn't even a plot twist. Pell on the other hand.....silly. I totally think Monet is dead. Doflamingo would have collected his crew members if they were still alive. He only came for the other 2.

I don't even remember that, but that's interesting. Anyways, Monet's the only one that would truly "bug" me lol
 

grandjedi6

Master of the Google Search
Monet's best chance for survival was via a cover story but Oda chose to not do one for Punk Hazard (hint: because everyone is dead). She now joins Gin, Vergo and others in limbo.

That said, Bellamy got his dumb ass off of limbo island after a decade so anything's possible.
 

LotusHD

Banned
Don't think you're allowed to link that, but cool, good to know. It's not the only time he's been foreshadowed to appear, but I never knew about that one.

Monet's best chance for survival was via a cover story but Oda chose to not do one for Punk Hazard (hint: because everyone is dead). She now joins Gin, Vergo and others in limbo.

That said, Bellamy got his dumb ass off of limbo island after a decade so anything's possible.

Doffy a demented dude so that could've gone either way lol
 

Runner67

Member
Linking to places like that is a no-no, Runner.

Don't link to scanlation sites, Runner. It could get you banned.

Don't think you're allowed to link that, but cool, good to know. It's not the only time he's been foreshadowed to appear, but I never knew about that one.



Doffy a demented dude so that could've gone either way lol

Noted. And yea I know a cover story certainly alluded to it (the flowers and sake at Ace's grave)
 

Ray Down

Banned
Not really, if the fruit passed to the one of the tangerines we would have seen it by now or Nami would have made a comment about seeing a tangerine that was so different from the others with weird spirals and different coloring then the other fruits. Close to a month has passed since then.

This still assuming that Monet is dead (already brought up examples from me and others Oda rarely kills in the present) and that her original fruit was a tangerine since the DF don't just move to any old fruit they go to the closest one of its kind. And again its been shown to be fast and would have appeared already. If you wanna argue why not grab them, Aokiji was there to set him straight to prevent him or the marines had her.

Smiley could have just showed us what happens to the power when the user dies since we never saw it happen before and the closest incident close to it was WB death and how BB got it which we didn't see.

Why would CC leave with the strawhats, he hates them and the strawhats have nothing but open contempt for the man, the only reason he stayed with them was with the Dolfa stuff and were just gonna give him to BM since Dolfa was down. Besides in this chapter him and Bege have split off from the strawhats.

He could just fly off now and grab a ship himself or for better sakes get captured by Stussy and go be forced/work for the government/marines since:
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Runner67

Member
Not really, if the fruit passed to the one of the tangerines we would have seen it by now or Nami would have made a comment about seeing a tangerine that was so different from the others with weird spirals and different coloring then the other fruits. Close to a month has passed since then.

This still assuming that Monet is dead (already brought up examples from me and others Oda rarely kills in the present) and that her original fruit was a tangerine since the DF don't just move to any old fruit they go to the closest one of its kind. And again its been shown to be fast and would have appeared already.

Smiley could have just showed us what happens to the power when the user dies since we never saw it happen before and the closest incident close to it was WB death and how BB got it which we didn't see.

Why would CC leave with the strawhats, he hates them and the strawhats have nothing but open contempt for the man, the only reason he stayed with them was with the Dolfa stuff and were just gonna give him to BM since Dolfa was down.

He could just fly off now and grab a ship himself or for better sakes get captured by Stussy and go be forced/work for the government/marines since:
Zgh1Ex3.png

Plot points don't need to be used until they are. Its been a few weeks sure, but that doesn't mean Nami had to have spotted it on the brush, even if its entirely different. It could still be there. Its all based on how Oda wants to write it. Honestly, I think trying to logistically reason anything in this manga would be silly lol. I'm claiming mine however from a plot point perspective. We are shown something major when smiley dies, seemingly out of nowhere, but Monet also "dies" this arc, not too long after we were shown that revelation. Again, my personal opinion on the matter lol.

The only thing we know about Devil Fruit reincarnation is that it seems to pick either the closest set of fruits or a similar type of fruit not too far from death. We don't know where Doflamingo got Ace's, but it could have been in some random house in Marinford, by which he was able to acquire it through some underworld scheme. Who knows.

The closest thing we have to Blackbeard obtaining Whitebeards fruit is how Big Mom got hers. BB obviously did something to Whitebeards body as a result. Obviously eating the host prevents the fruit from leaving the body and corrupting another fruit.

Lastly, Caesar would obviously not get on their ship unless he was forced to. Hey may not have a way off the island, and going with them would be hilarious way of keeping him around (he's been around for 4 arcs already) and would also bring him to Kaido, which I feel like would be an important plot point, and conclusion to what is supposed to happen with him.
 

grandjedi6

Master of the Google Search
Don't think you're allowed to link that, but cool, good to know. It's not the only time he's been foreshadowed to appear, but I never knew about that one.



Doffy a demented dude so that could've gone either way lol

True, though we didn't know how demented he was for the longest time. But it does make Bellamy's return less outrageous than others. It's similar to why Bon Clay's survival didn't bother me as much: it fits Magellan's character that he wouldn't kill off Bon Clay if he could incapacitate him instead.

Monet's problem is that even if she survived being stabbed in the heart, there was no one around to save her after that. The place was filled with the deadly gas and exploded after her "death" and Doflamingo was chased off by Aokiji before he would have had a chance to find Vergo or Monet. Her best chance for survival is if she somehow hung on long enough for Smoker's crew to save her but, if so, she's captured on Smoker's ship and going to Vegapunk now... for some reason?

I do like that everyone argues about Monet surviving but no one particularly cares about Vergo's fate lol
 

LotusHD

Banned
True, though we didn't know how demented he was for the longest time. But it does make Bellamy's return less outrageous than others. It's similar to why Bon Clay's survival didn't bother me as much: it fits Magellan's character that he wouldn't kill off Bon Clay if he could incapacitate him instead.

Monet's problem is that even if she survived being stabbed in the heart, there was no one around to save her after that. The place was filled with the deadly gas and exploded after her "death" and Doflamingo was chased off by Aokiji before he would have had a chance to find Vergo or Monet. Her best chance for survival is if she somehow hung on long enough for Smoker's crew to save her but, if so, she's captured on Smoker's ship and going to Vegapunk now... for some reason?

I do like that everyone argues about Monet surviving but no one particularly cares about Vergo's fate lol

With Vergo, it's technically even worse (Lol at it being worse than getting stabbed in your hart), because he was cut to pieces, and then the place blew up. Just like Monet, no one around to save him, but he presumably has an even harder timing moving around.

Also I'm gonna assume that Monet is definitely a lot more popular than Vergo, not to mention has theories regarding her DF, so that's why people care more about her.
 

Ray Down

Banned
Not only was Vergo left it multiple pices and tied down, Monet at least have the added benefit of Logia disposition/disperse and (possible low level regen) as shown with other logias that can help her.
 

Euphony

Banned
No really hole from the looks of it and no blood leaking out, hell the take planted in the ground so it didn't just pop out and plant into the ground (that and no blood on it from the looks of it)

Pell survived a bomb directly so its not impossible she survived, Oda very rarely kills off characters and if the fruit was on the ship nami would have noticed by know since with Smiley its been shown to be automatic and quick.

She probably just irrelevant after this and alive doing her own thing like former BW members.

I was thinking more about these panels. It shows the actual act of Caesar stabbing Monet, complete with blood and her reaction.

 

Ray Down

Banned
I was thinking more about these panels. It shows the actual act of Caesar stabbing Monet, complete with blood and her reaction.

My page comes in the next chapter and distinctly lacks and trace of blood on the heart cube or stake, nor any hole and the stack being planted firmly in the ground.
 

Euphony

Banned
My page comes in the next chapter and distinctly lacks and trace of blood on the heart cube or stake, nor any hole and the stack being planted firmly in the ground.

I can see what you're getting at but I'm still leaning toward Monet being dead. I'm having a hard time ignoring that the heart cube was distinctly drawn being stabbed and the next couple of pages dedicated to Monet's reaction and how Law switched cubes. The lack of blood and hole on the cube created by the icicle can be explained by the angle it was drawn at as well as it being covered by Caesar's hand somewhat. However I can't explain why the icicle was stuck in the ground next to the cube instead of in it without pure speculation.
 
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