DUFFMCWALIN
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You haven't played a ton of steam early access games then. The fact that I've only had two crashes and maybe five instances of network lag make it a pretty good early access title.
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Is PUBG a GotY contender?
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You haven't played a ton of steam early access games then. The fact that I've only had two crashes and maybe five instances of network lag make it a pretty good early access title.
EmCeeGramr
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Uh, comparing PUBG to Quake or UT doesn't exactly help your argument that it won't influence anything.
Quake is literally in like, the top 6 or so most influential games ever made, and arguably more influential than Doom itself. That was about the worst example he could have used lol.
Rushersauce
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BleedOrange
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If we're going to be reductionist then BOTW is just GTA V's 'universe with consistent rules and systems' applied to the Zelda lore.
But single player games are boring and lonely. Why would boring and lonely games win over exciting and social games?
Point was there's almost nothing original about Battlegrounds. Virtually every aspect of it's existence is pulled from Player Unknown's previous BR modes in other games, one of which has sold millions of millions of copies and been one of Steam's most popular games for two years.
How could something that does precious little new, which can't be said to have popularized something, be considered influential?
What constitutes a full game in this day and age? Was Final Fantasy XV a full game upon release if they're revamping entire chapters?
Huge Succeeded
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Originality isn't a prerequisite for influence. Battlegrounds isn't entirely original when you reduce it to its base elements (I had been playing similar experiences through ARMA mods for years and years now, ARMA 2 and 3 might be the most played games on my Steam acct). However, I've still had unique experiences with Battlegrounds almost constantly. I sometimes find myself thinking, man, these rounds genuinely feel like my six hour long ARMA online mod sessions condensed into 30-45 minutes, striking an excellent balance of depth and accessibility compared to something like ARMA. The sort of experiences Battlegrounds facilitates are pretty unique to the genre outside of dedicating yourself to playing multi-hour modded ARMA sessions, and that's why it's been generating so much talk.
It's one of the best games in shooter history for the unique experiences that it facilitates, no less than something like BoTW is a fantastic single player game for the unique experiences that it facilitates, even despite that one could consider many elements of BoTW unoriginal when important context is disregarded.
You could sum up a lot of gaming's greatest titles with that line.
Once again we ignore the massively successful BR game between ARMA and PUBG, though.
Such as?
EmCeeGramr
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Because the PUBG formula is clearly hitting a sweet spot that's pushing the game into the mainstream way faster than H1Z1's did.
Many long running series such as Mario or Zelda. Even relatively new stuff like Overwatch is just a new take on Team fortress etc.
BleedOrange
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Do your friends own a PC, or are they all console-only gamers? My friend is also a console-only gamer and is equally oblivious about PC games than don't breach his console-bubble.
In any case, if we're being anecdotal, PUBG has brought me and my other gaming friends together in a way that we haven't been since college.
We're all busy adults with responsibilities and social lives outside of gaming, but we see ourselves setting designated dates and times to all be on for PUBG, everyone is finally back in one place (Discord) doing 1 thing (PUBG) and generally socializing like we haven't since we all went our separate ways after college. It's been a revolutionary game for us.
No, I think you misunderstand how little is new to Player Unknown's Battleground.
Huge Succeeded
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because for as successful as it was it's pretty obviously not going to have the lasting impact that PUBG will for a bevy of reasons
I know there's not a lot of new concepts in it, I not even arguing that. That aside it doesn't keep it from being influential just like many many past games who didn't do anything new that was noteworthy.
ashecitism
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By the same person. PlayerUnknown first made the BR mod for the Arma 2 DayZ mod, then made the BR mod for Arma 3, then Daybreak hired him as a consultant to make a BR mode for H1Z1 which turned into King of the Kill, then Bluehole hired him to make the game he wanted.
BleedOrange
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Horizon: Zero Dawn, and TLoZ: BotW.
I think we understand what you're trying to say. We just vehemently disagree.
boneyjangles
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I've had a few FPS 'Wow, this is a whole new level' moments since I was a kid. Goldeneye, Quake 2, Counterstrike, Battlefield 1942.
Somehow PUBG is like playing online multiplayer FPS for the first time again. It's fresh. It doesn't feel like a shooter. Instead if feels like a sagely crafted, primal, human hunting simulator.
It can be peaceful, thoughtful, quiet, serene, social, like going fishing with your buddies, but it's punctuated with moments of such incredible tension and furious hostility.
I usually don't get that emotionally invested in games, but these PUBG top 10 finishes are re-wiring my whole nervous system, my heart often beating out of my chest, practically unheard of for this jaded old gamer.
Somehow PUBG is like playing online multiplayer FPS for the first time again. It's fresh. It doesn't feel like a shooter. Instead if feels like a sagely crafted, primal, human hunting simulator.
It can be peaceful, thoughtful, quiet, serene, social, like going fishing with your buddies, but it's punctuated with moments of such incredible tension and furious hostility.
I usually don't get that emotionally invested in games, but these PUBG top 10 finishes are re-wiring my whole nervous system, my heart often beating out of my chest, practically unheard of for this jaded old gamer.
Huge Succeeded
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that doesn't matter so much when the experiences that PUBG facilitates are new and unique to a massive swath of the playerbase, and when even players of the games you're comparing PUBG to are migrating to PUBG because they prefer the differences to its gameplay loop
PleaseDontBanMe
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I don't see how when it's essentially a clone of about 10 games that have been released in the past and somehow each time a different version is released people act as if it's a completely new and original game.
PUBG is comfortably my GOTY so far.
There's something pure in its roughness and simplicity at its current, imperfect stage. There is a steep learning curve, but after some hours in you're aware of the ins and outs of this huge map: how to position yourself in gunfights, start accounting for bullet drop, know where vehicles may spawn, start planning ahead on where to move in the zone by taking the plane's original trajectory in consideration, etc etc.
Every match plays out differently and forces you to adapt in different situations. One match you may be swimming across the map to the island where the zone is moving in, and start getting shot from the bridge and need to stay underwater, and hope you can stay alive. The other match you may be sniping on a hill fully decked out using the zone to your advantage. Another match you may not find a car and need to run across fields to barely reach the zone, and next thing you know, with almost no loot, you find yourself in the last few encounters and barely scrape by with the last kill. And even if there is no real tangible reward in the end, you take pride in getting through all those messy fights and close escapes to get that chicken dinner screen on your own merits. My favorite moments don't even come from matches where I win, or even come close, they come from pulling off stupid hijinks with friends, or clutch plays when you're alone in your squad, or smacking someone across the head with a pan at the start of a match while they're still reloading their shotgun. I think almost anyone can find some fun in PUBG, and you don't have to particularly be good at it.
There's something pure in its roughness and simplicity at its current, imperfect stage. There is a steep learning curve, but after some hours in you're aware of the ins and outs of this huge map: how to position yourself in gunfights, start accounting for bullet drop, know where vehicles may spawn, start planning ahead on where to move in the zone by taking the plane's original trajectory in consideration, etc etc.
Every match plays out differently and forces you to adapt in different situations. One match you may be swimming across the map to the island where the zone is moving in, and start getting shot from the bridge and need to stay underwater, and hope you can stay alive. The other match you may be sniping on a hill fully decked out using the zone to your advantage. Another match you may not find a car and need to run across fields to barely reach the zone, and next thing you know, with almost no loot, you find yourself in the last few encounters and barely scrape by with the last kill. And even if there is no real tangible reward in the end, you take pride in getting through all those messy fights and close escapes to get that chicken dinner screen on your own merits. My favorite moments don't even come from matches where I win, or even come close, they come from pulling off stupid hijinks with friends, or clutch plays when you're alone in your squad, or smacking someone across the head with a pan at the start of a match while they're still reloading their shotgun. I think almost anyone can find some fun in PUBG, and you don't have to particularly be good at it.
Spukc
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Various Artists
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This is the dumbest thing I have ever read here. I don't know to break this to you but a golden gaf trophy won't be sent to Link in Hyrule when us nerds put in our vote and they our tallied. There is nothing to devalue and the fact that you think that you think it will be devalued forever like Hitler winning Olympic medals makes me belly laugh.
To me, an influential game is one that pioneers or popularizes, and while PUBG is certainly the most popular in it's genre NOW, it certainly is not the pioneer, nor did it popularize the genre.
Maybe after it is the first to launch on console, it will be the game that influences millions of gamers outside of PC gaming.
BleedOrange
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Reductionism at it's finest. Your bias is clear as day.
I can guarantee that PUBG has been the first Battle Royale game for many gamers on PC, myself and everyone I know included.
It is popularizing the genre, it's doing that RIGHT NOW. If it wasn't we'd still be talking about the other games you're talking about. You know the ones that didn't even come close to the popularity that PUBG is? Hell we had a thread about someone asking for splatoon to have a PUBG mode, and I doubt that's the last time we're going to see people ask for those modes in other games.
PleaseDontBanMe
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Simply gave my honest opinion, but I apologise if I upset you
Huge Succeeded
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GOTY thread this year is going to be a nightmare lmao
PUBG is doing much more, faster, to popularize the 'battle royale' genre than H1Z1 ever did. PUBG will go on to define the genre. That's the thing I think you're not quite getting.
PUBG is doing much more, faster, to popularize the 'battle royale' genre than H1Z1 ever did. PUBG will go on to define the genre. That's the thing I think you're not quite getting.
Could you name about 10 of these games and their dates of release?
If I had to boil it down to a couple words, a charming imperfection would fit PUBG nicely. I mean that in a very good way, too. Its probably my #2 or 3 game right now for the year.
Script of the Bridge
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So it needs to be on console to be influential?
Stabby McSter
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its a nightmare every year tbh
the elitism from some people is just beyond words
iRAWRasaurus
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How can someone clone something that has literally basically only done by the same person every time? PlayerUnknown's isn't cloning anything, he's literally the creator of the entire genre and had a hand on basically every sucessful game in said genre.
martincrimson87
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I don't think so, this game has depth and replay value.
PleaseDontBanMe
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Obviously the number 10 was a generalization (there's so many similar games I honestly don't keep count of them anymore) these sort of games have always been popular on streaming sites like Twitch for the past few years. The last one I remember being pretty popular before this corrent one was that Conan game, H1Z1 before that.
Well he's cloning himself I guess. I guess if yearly sports titles can get away with it then why not him?
That's not even the same genre.
Conan? Conan is a base building survival game like Rust. It's literally nothing like Battlegrounds lol
Crimsonclaw111
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I've had only a couple crashes, and I'm using only 8GB of RAM. All things considered, game runs alright.
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and it's worth noting that despite similarities that appear less superficial than they are, playing King of the Kill and PUBG are two very different beasts, and PUBG's more grounded mechanics and gameplay enable far more intense playthroughs.
It is sad, because it didn't even get to be Game of the Week, let alone of a whole year.