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Summer Anime 2017 |OT| More streaming services than shows to watch
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Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Hmmm, it's Aho Girl day?
Time for a banana.
Time for a banana.
Some of the opinions:
Don't be glassesbread.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
Just relax. You can't force everyone to watch, let alone like, Majin Bone.
DeadRockstar
Member
Accept that people are entitled to their disinterest?
Cornbread78
Member
I cannot imagine you being angry... Like ever...
(Also, little off topic, but yay at JJ Abrams directing Star Wars IX!)
Nah, I'm waaay to easy going and non-combative, lol.
I would however, pay good money to read Nintendoman meltdowns on the greatness that is Cross Ange. So freaking entertaining! It's even got real dragon girls!
You want Mecha, you get mecha. You should watch it for that alone....
John Blade
Member
AnimeGaf opinion will always be different and people will fight on it. Now, post some interesting random pics from anime show which is lewd but actually cute.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Thinking about that scene in Cross Ange where Hilda's mom throws a pie at her then Hilda runs off crying then gets beat up by cops. Magical
KirbYuuYuu
Member
I'm not going to do anything to get people into Bone.
Window odd opportunity passed.
I mean fuck, if we can't get firehawk to watch good shows, I'm hard pressed to push shows to more people
Window odd opportunity passed.
I mean fuck, if we can't get firehawk to watch good shows, I'm hard pressed to push shows to more people
You're forgetting the masterful metaphor of cutting to a shot of a fruit falling to the ground right as the cops were about to hit Hilda... and then cutting back to her laying on the ground all beat up in case the previous imagery was too subtle for you.
...Jeez, just thinking back about it is enough to make me feel sick, and I don't think I'll ever pick the show back up after dropping it on the first episode of some arc where Ange and her boyfriend, Yuuki Rito, were warped to some alternate dimension or something along those lines.
PshycoNinja
Member
I'll Be Here Past was a straight up rehash. Can't really defend that.
I don't like stories constructed from an amnesia concept. I am not a fan of that. But that's what Future does.
The flashback scenes of Mirai's past were not in the OG anime. I don't think they ever dived into her past aside from
when she was forced to kill her best friend
(amnesia)
I agree, that they could've addressed this in the show. But it doesn't taint the original show in any way and actually, in my mind, makes the main villain feel a little more threatening. I appreciate what the movie brings to the series though and closes it out pretty well.
nintendoman58
Member
It just sickens me how people will quickly flock to shit like this:
Rather than give the time of day to something that has a mordicum of human decency and promotes the best of humanity.
Valdfellgar
Banned
Well, I know what hooked me into the series when I was just a teen was Ginji's backstory, the Limitless Fortress stuff and the shonen battle atmosphere. It was never a massive favorite of mine, but I recall really enjoying all 49 episodes, least I think I watched the whole thing. Trying to rewatch it again has not gone well, and I honestly struggle to really see what I saw in it as a kid.
Most of everyone's powers are a bit silly, you're right that it doesn't feel all that unique. Ban's Jagan or whatever is cool, but often ends up doing the exact same thing over and over again, and gets incredibly predictable. Like, the moment something funky happens you know he used it and you're just waiting until the series decides to go "got ya!"
I was looking over the critical reception on Wikipedia and it's really striking to see what was praised back then, and gives this impression that Western Anime Reviewers were just sort of happy we got anything. Like, Fan Service is a praise worthy element, which would totally not be a selling point (critically in this day and age). Also there's praise for the anime's animation, which, is, uh, I don't think particularly amazing one way or the other.
The criticisms amount to mostly "not enough DVD extras."
or "Sinott concluded that the story arc involving the Limitless Fortress was "a good story" due to the expansion in the backgrounds from various of the main characters, but found it relatively longer than previous story arcs." Which is more a statement of fact than anything resembling criticism.MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
pfft lame, ok superman. just shoot that garbage into my veins
sometimes one feels like ordering a nice steak, a sushi platter or some good Italian food. Then other times one feels like getting shitty pizza, but it has to be the right kind of shitty pizza - that kind you learned to love because somewhere between that Styrofoam cheese and cardboard crust theres a wholesome trueness to it
PshycoNinja
Member
Your only option is to watchbet people now.
Nah, I'm waaay to easy going and non-combative, lol.
I would however, pay good money to read Nintendoman meltdowns on the greatness that is Cross Ange. So freaking entertaining! It's even got real dragon girls!
You want Mecha, you get mecha. You should watch it for that alone....
Nintendoman doesn't need anymore pain in his life.
I remember ange's little sister going all psycho and staging a public lynching for Ange or something, but then she's saved by Rito, sadly.
Actually don't, it's a waste of time that surpases even Big Order in sheer stupidity.
Cornbread78
Member
It's an experience like no other......
I think she stabbed her or whipped her as well, lol.
Boruto ~6-15
Long ass string of most tepid of tepid MotW episodes and filler tier intrigue backed by lackluster production values, simplistic and in many cases plain ugly designs and completely toothless direction. Yamashita a hack.
Sumire a cute though.
Nekomonogatari 1-4
I'm not sure if it's me evolving or just having more time to follow the dialogue without worrying about the bigger story or what's happening on the screen but I'm increasingly seeing that I really enjoy revisiting Nisio's writing, maybe even more than I did on my first time. I don't even find Hanekawa's travails here particularly engaging though Nisio tries hard to make it more than just a monster posession story, it's the line by line banter, it's the monologues, even the infodumps, by no means a trait of Owari S2 alone and the hard va effort at making it all work. The context from Kizu also makes you realized what are all the Araragi&Shinobu interactions about and especially where the former is coming from.
It's self-aware.
Long ass string of most tepid of tepid MotW episodes and filler tier intrigue backed by lackluster production values, simplistic and in many cases plain ugly designs and completely toothless direction. Yamashita a hack.
Sumire a cute though.
Nekomonogatari 1-4
I'm not sure if it's me evolving or just having more time to follow the dialogue without worrying about the bigger story or what's happening on the screen but I'm increasingly seeing that I really enjoy revisiting Nisio's writing, maybe even more than I did on my first time. I don't even find Hanekawa's travails here particularly engaging though Nisio tries hard to make it more than just a monster posession story, it's the line by line banter, it's the monologues, even the infodumps, by no means a trait of Owari S2 alone and the hard va effort at making it all work. The context from Kizu also makes you realized what are all the Araragi&Shinobu interactions about and especially where the former is coming from.
I'll watch Majin Bone if you watch Fafner or Kuromukuro.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Its the right kind of exploitative pulp trash. Like a car crash, you want to look away but deep down you know there is a satisfaction and enjoyment factor. The same kind of feeling you get when watching The Room. Who allowed this to get made and at what point did everyone just give up and start dicking around?
Cross Ange is Code Geass + Mean Girls + I Spit On Your Grave.
nintendoman58
Member
Wholesome trueness?
What part of Cross Ange can be described as "wholesome" or "true"?
Cornbread78
Member
yuri love scenes?
Cornbread78
Member
Tough Call, Cross Ange actually felt a lot more wholesome than Tsugu did.... *shudders*
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
The same thing as The Room where you can feel the director had an idea and it ended up in the worst, goofiest and shoddy way possible. Someone had their heart in this, unlike some LN anime made without any care or a bad movie starring Tom Cruise meant to cynically kick off a cinematic universe.
Beneath all the trash, theres an identity. A genuine attempt at something. Its the same reason people have a fondness for Ed Wood movies. It would be foolish to say that Glen or Glenda, Plan 9 from Outer Space, The Sinister Urge or Jail Bait are actually good movies. But that's not why people actually like them. The best form of camp comes from a genuine attempt that turns into a massive and spectacular failure. Where despite the clear lack of talent and understanding, there was still an attempt. Any other filmmaker given the reputation and resources Ed Wood have would have given up immediately but Wood never did. Theres beauty in that.
That's different. The mangaka for Tsugumomo is an excellent artist. He draws some of the best and kinetic fight scenes in manga. Despite the endlessly problematic things about the series, you cant take away that as an artist he is good.
Its the same with Nisemonogatari. Undeniable production qualities, Nisio is still a great writer, but do we really need all these uncomfortable bullshit scenes?
The Room on the other hand - and I'm going to keep using The Room as an example because its the marquee example and I'm currently reading and greatly enjoying The Disaster Artist which is actually a pretty great expose on the mind of a creator and finding enjoyment in awful works of art - is just bad all around. There isn't a thing you can point to in The Room that is genuinely a good thing, and not just ironically good. You cant say "Well the direction is nonsensical, the acting is absurdly bad, the scriptwriter seems to barely understand English but at least this set piece was good" because its all bad. And that's why its a fascinating movie.
At the end its entertaining as entertainment, if you want to boil it down.
Disaster Artist movie will be amazing.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
The Disaster Artist is extremely my shit. Tommy Wiseau is an amazing and fascinating human being, and I've actually gained a new appreciation for the ENTIRE FILM INDUSTRY because of The Room and The Disaster Artist.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Its the most noteworthy mecha series since Code Geass. What else they gonna put in there? Buddy Complex? Argevollen? LOL
At least for me there is a million anime out there I haven't watched. Backlogs are enormous and new ones come out all the time. It is hard to get to any single recommendation.
Joe Molotov
Member
I'll watch Maijin Bone for Cross Ange.
Huh who is the announcer, oh it's
"Also Juri got what she wanted"
.......good to know
Yeah Kurama, we miss Kuwabara as well
Next episode:
"Is that your girlfriend Kuwabara"
"Oh I didn't know you swing that way"
You know Yusuke that was a horrible plan and a way to elect people.
He's lucky Enki was strong and that he was friends with Raizen otherwise human world would have been a buffet.
It's a good thing Yusuke doesn't make laws
Well the demon world tournament felt short, you can tell that they didn't have much to work with
"Also Juri got what she wanted"
.......good to know
Yeah Kurama, we miss Kuwabara as well
Next episode:
"Is that your girlfriend Kuwabara"
"Oh I didn't know you swing that way"
You know Yusuke that was a horrible plan and a way to elect people.
He's lucky Enki was strong and that he was friends with Raizen otherwise human world would have been a buffet.
It's a good thing Yusuke doesn't make laws
Well the demon world tournament felt short, you can tell that they didn't have much to work with
Zaregoto beckons then !
DeadRockstar
Member
The problem with this is that you've crossing a line between criticising Cross Ange and the people watching it. Moral watchdogging carries with it an implied distrust of the people you're trying to keep from watching something. The implication is that they'll be seduced by its immorality and come out the other end morally degraded, because otherwise there is little harm in them seeing it. You're saying "I know what's wrong with this, but you don't or won't." Reprehensible art isn't a slippery slope to degeneracy even if we agree that it is reprehensible, like Birth of a Nation for example, which is still taught in film schools despite being very racist. The answer is to trust people with their own consumption or you'll be forever up in arms at the things people have their reasons for being interested in, and insulting a segment of those people for no benefit. They key here is that they have their own reasons, which may be simple curiosity. Criticise Cross Ange and let people make up their own minds. It's all you can do.
Additionally, placing Majin Bone and Cross Ange on a moral spectrum is implying a level of relevance to one another that they just don't have in the context of this conversation; you're creating an injustice that doesn't exist because people's reasons for watching Cross Ange and passing on Majin Bone aren't likely to be related. Majin Bone is a 52 episode kid's show with merchandising hooks and a significant amount of CG. One or all of those things, or perhaps some other quality or reason may be a deal breaker for people, and that's okay, even if it seems like they're missing out to you.
I recently finished all of Doremi and I would be surprised if more than a single person I recommended it to watches it, so I understand where you're coming from. It's one of the best shows I've ever watched, but it's a kid's show that was mastered to early digital standards, with hundreds of episodes, a couple of movies, and merchandising hooks. Some people just don't want that, and I get it. Art is simultaneously the most important thing and not at all important. If a person dies having never watched Breathless, but they watched Transformers: The Last Knight, it honestly doesn't matter that much. And I detest Michael Bay's work. That doesn't mean people should get off firehawk's case for not watching Utena though. That's tradition.
nintendoman58
Member
Okay, here's what doesn't make sense to me. Because somebody kept making something that could have been a good product but became a piece of trash later down the line, the fact that they kept making it even though it was already too far gone is what makes it secretly beautiful?
You know what real beauty looks like to me?
Something that could have wound-up as a soulless cash-in but someone's idea turned it into something beautiful. Somebody taking nothing and turning it into something.
Majin Bone makes so many moves you wouldn't expect your average anime to make. Let alone a children's anime. And I don't mean: "Oh the lovers get married and the show continues after their confession" or some crap like that.
How many anime characters can you name that are black and from Brazil? How many actual African anime characters can you name? That aren't stereotypes made for some cheap attempt at comedy?
Majin Bone does nothing for cheap shock value and manages to have a story with a genuine message without being pretentious.
It's a story about convincing not just a group of aliens that humanity is worth saving, but their god as well. I don't think I've ever seen a show where the villains and heroes actually make a genuine attempt at understanding one another.
Gundam shows wish they could have this level of human interaction.
There's no episode that one could describe as filler, or even a "slow arc". Every episode matters and has something worthwhile that works as a piece to Majin Bone's overall story.
It's a tragically overlooked masterpiece that was carefully put together. And it all came from some random mobile game that a studio was asked to make an anime for.
Say what you will about there being some beauty in Cross Ange being good at one point during its development cycle. To me, it will always sicken me that something like that gets openly celebrated, while something like Majin Bone is cursed to forever be ignored and labeled as this one show I keep talking about.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Holy shit people, it's just Japanese cartoons.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Nobody is choosing to watch Cross Ange over Majin Bone, its the post right above yours. That's just an artificial connection you've made that people have reinforced by ribbing because its funny. Its also kind of your fault for being so strong on Majin Bone that it turned into a joke in the first place. I'm sure everyone has a pet show they wish more people would watch...
Its also just a conversation. We can wait for cornbread to post a random tumblr .gif from a show he has never seen soon enough if it gets too deep
Its also just a conversation. We can wait for cornbread to post a random tumblr .gif from a show he has never seen soon enough if it gets too deep
Cornbread78
Member
Lol, gotta keep the peace. I've seen the below though..
Everyone just needs to watch Kanon(2006) and Clannad with love in their hearts.
EXIT:
I'm actually laughing my ass off, because that's the only reason why I watched Penguindrum, Tokyo Raven and Fairy Tail, lolol
Damn gifs
i don't really post in here all that much but there's also just a multitude of reasons people haven't watched majin bone
you pushing it constantly has at least put it on my "i'll watch it eventually" list with shows like lotgh and gundam and stuff like that but that's a massive list and i'll probably never finish it even if anime was the only entertainment medium i consumed. due to the nature of me preferring and usually watching subbed anime as well it's also something i have to devote my entire self to instead of being able to say, grind things out in a mmo/granblue alongside it
factor in people watching/playing other forms of entertainment like TV and videogames, plus real life responsibilities, and everyone's priorities are different in terms of what media they decide to consume at any given moment.
you pushing it constantly has at least put it on my "i'll watch it eventually" list with shows like lotgh and gundam and stuff like that but that's a massive list and i'll probably never finish it even if anime was the only entertainment medium i consumed. due to the nature of me preferring and usually watching subbed anime as well it's also something i have to devote my entire self to instead of being able to say, grind things out in a mmo/granblue alongside it
factor in people watching/playing other forms of entertainment like TV and videogames, plus real life responsibilities, and everyone's priorities are different in terms of what media they decide to consume at any given moment.
Large Professor
Member
Base.com just canceled my Your Name - Limited Edition Steelbook (pre)order. Guess I'll have to spend a little more to get it.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Its super difficult to get people to pick up a show that's 52 episodes that isn't well known.
Like I don't actually expect anyone to EVER pick up Heybot and finish it. Hell I don't think I could if I didn't watch it weekly on a schedule.
Like I don't actually expect anyone to EVER pick up Heybot and finish it. Hell I don't think I could if I didn't watch it weekly on a schedule.
Dedication Through Light
Member
I doubt most people would have watched heybot if not for CR coming through.
The only reason Cross Ange keeps coming up is because of your ardent hatred against something you only know from second hand experience.
Like, you probably care more about Cross Ange than everyone who's even watched it.
And that's just a really easy target for some teasing, since you never fail to double down on it.
Like, you probably care more about Cross Ange than everyone who's even watched it.
And that's just a really easy target for some teasing, since you never fail to double down on it.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Heybot is the reason I sub to CR. Because even in the heyday of fansubbing fucking nobody would have touched that.
If CR can continue to sub shows that only a couple hundred maximum people care about to watch a week they have earned my money. Stuff like Dragon Ball Super is a bonus, really.
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