whatsinaname
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Any white players perform the gesture today?
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Trump takes shots at Kaepernick, Get that son of a bitch off the field
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excelsiorlef
Member
Yeah NHL is probably actually the most conservative sport there is sadly.
Hmmm...
That's what I get for responding to the initial announcement only I guess
One guy did go there mind you. Hmm that makes it more questionable since he was the Military vet hmmm...
JStein0222
Member
On the Steelers choosing to stay out of politics:
"We must take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. Sometimes we must interfere." - Elie Wiesel
"We must take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. Sometimes we must interfere." - Elie Wiesel
TheGameshark
Member
"As you can see in the photos trump got more players to kneel than we've ever seen before from previous presidents. Truly record breaking."
Glass Shark
Banned
It can be about both things.
Look at any online comment section or social media. I'm sure that will remind you that it has something to do with black millionaires "whining" about police.
I was thinking about this and agree. It's easier to jump into he pile when more and more people are leaping in.
Edit: I think this applies to some people but not all obviously. There have been many athletes that have been supporting Kaepernick the entire time.
But it's not. It's about Trump. None of these people were kneeling last week, but now that the president says they should be fired, they're all in.
At Wembley more than 20 players and staff from both sides either knelt or linked arms during the anthem, including some white players.
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
This is exactly why Trump said what he said. To silence the conversation.
old manatee
Banned
Trump brought the story back into the mainstream, which is giving people the chance to talk about that stuff again.
BoboBrazil
Member
Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 1m1 minute ago
Great solidarity for our National Anthem and for our Country. Standing with locked arms is good, kneeling is not acceptable. Bad ratings!
Great solidarity for our National Anthem and for our Country. Standing with locked arms is good, kneeling is not acceptable. Bad ratings!
Psychotext
Member
Yeah, intentional or not, that's pretty much how it looks now.
Bad fucking ratings? Who the fuck is this clown?
excelsiorlef
Member
Yep note to self read thread... Ugh Steelers ugh, staying in the locker room could have been an incredible statement... instead you make it such a cowardly one, especially by sending out the Army vet to stand...Ugh fuck that shit.
That dude gonna be the pin up for trump fans now.
Glass Shark
Banned
It doesn't have to be about both things for all people. But in truth, you don't know what is running through the minds of these players when they chose to kneel today. And regardless, both issues are very important, and both are intertwined.
I get what you're saying for sure, but I don't think it's fair to just say it's a fad or something. Look at how much vitriol and hatred is being hurled at players who kneel. Do you think they are taking it lightly?
LMFAO "oh shit my best friend Tom locked arms, what do I do, what do I do???"
excelsiorlef
Member
It was the army vet though... It actually if anything sends the exact opposite message when combined with the we don't want to play politics. They fucked this thing up hard.
TangoAlphaLima
Member
He was a wise man.
I've not read up on the jurisprudence, but there's no way the 1st doesn't also apply to Executive Order. Likely wouldn't apply here if challenged in court because it is all talk, but I suspect a challenge may be raised anyway.
NYR
Member
Hahaha he is taking credit for the linking of arms.
RPGCrazied
Member
He always makes it about him. And think he was the cause of it. What a retard.
Great that more players are choosing to kneel (though tbh I'm a little perturbed it took Trump shitting on them for it to happen) but will Kaep have a job some time soon?
If there are NFL owners standing up for their players that kneel now, maybe that means teams should finally consider hiring on an above-average QB even if it's for a 2nd or 3rd string position.
If there are NFL owners standing up for their players that kneel now, maybe that means teams should finally consider hiring on an above-average QB even if it's for a 2nd or 3rd string position.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
People who locked arms instead of kneeling are getting co-opted
@RealDonaldTrump
Great solidarity for our National Anthem and for our Country. Standing with locked arms is good, kneeling is not acceptable. Bad ratings!
@RealDonaldTrump
Great solidarity for our National Anthem and for our Country. Standing with locked arms is good, kneeling is not acceptable. Bad ratings!
Someone who still can't get the respect he thinks he deserves even when he's the fucking president of the country.
Donald Trump is the dictionary definition of both pathetic and insecure.
I think that when a President at yells you to not do something or you should be fired by your superiors, that changes things. Many of the people who weren't protesting agreed with Kaepernick, but didn't want to deal with he backlash of protesting by kneeling for the National Anthem. Now that they have more support from their team members and owners BECAUSE of the comments made by Trump, they are kneeling. Kneeling for the National Anthem meant so many other things, it's just that Kapernick focuses on police brutality and rwlacial injustice in his protest.
Mark Andrew
Member
What about players who linked arms with or held the shoulders of those kneeling? Does the disrespect transfer via contact?
excelsiorlef
Member
I mean the city voted 75% for Clinton.
TheGameshark
Member
"I've unified our players like the country has never seen before."
Yup.
Fried Food
Banned
I just can't anymore. This guy is simply unreal.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
The Dallas Cowboys don't play today.
RPGCrazied
Member
We are going to need more kneeling. Standing with linked arms isn't going to work.
Honestly who cares how they spin it. They were going to spin it regardless.
Stop worrying about how they spin it please. The goalposts were always going to be moved.
SAD!
yep, "see there is unity, those kneeling trying to be race baiters. Crossing arms is the right way to do it"
Fried Food
Banned
I hope word gets out to the rest of the teams playing today that they must kneel if they were planning on doing anything
GitarooMan
Member
Lol at Trump still trying to latch onto Brady with linking arms comment.
He couldnt spin kneeling as a victory though.
The standing locked arms is an easy victory to spin.
Glass Shark
Banned
PRAISE ME
excelsiorlef
Member
Badass
The Penguins made sure they put out a statement to stand with the President.
PRAISE ME
It makes the rest of the NHL look bad.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
He would have "spun it a victory" if people simply stood for the anthem as well. It doesn't matter. He's going to spin it regardless. It's not a victory at all for him.