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Final Fantasy Brave Exvius |OT5| Our Golden Anniversary Brings Us Hope

Syntsui

Member
These supposed Rain enhancements are lame. Provoke tanks are trash, the meta is evade WoL/EV with cover all.

Not getting hit > mitigated damage.
 
These leaks are crazy. I'm really looking forward to FFIV Four Friends banner! May pull on the Halloween banner if I have some lapis available.

Safe to say these are legit though? If so I can plan any sort of resource spending on them.

No surprise the Nier banner made boat loads. I wonder if all this being out in the open will change anything?
 

Lyrian

Member
So what's the excuse now?

I'm constantly told that JPN gets so much freebies because people spend a lot of money. It looks like Global players do as well if they are surpassing expectations by more than 80%.

Why does GL need freebies when ~10k players per day buy the Bundle of Riches for 100 lapis? /s

Serious about that data point though :/

These supposed Rain enhancements are lame. Provoke tanks are trash, the meta is evade WoL/EV with cover all.

Not getting hit > mitigated damage.

And that's why every meaningful boss out there at the moment does the magic-based-physical-bullshit to get around it.

Even then, accuracy is pretty much a lock for the next version update with Cloud coming, which will render every evade build meaningless for the rest of eternity because future bosses will have enough accuracy to hit 100% evade builds 100% of the time (as the current magic as physical mechanic will be compromised once Mistair or a GE Exclusive magic-as-physical tank arrives).
 

Syntsui

Member
Why does GL need freebies when ~10k players per day buy the Bundle of Riches for 100 lapis? /s

Serious about that data point though :/



And that's why every meaningful boss out there at the moment does the magic-based-physical-bullshit to get around it.

Even then, accuracy is pretty much a lock for the next version update with Cloud coming, which will render every evade build meaningless for the rest of eternity because future bosses will have enough accuracy to hit 100% evade builds 100% of the time (as the current magic as physical mechanic will be compromised once Mistair or a GE Exclusive magic-as-physical tank arrives).
Not entirely true, evade builds still cheese some bosses on JP here and there. For example Aranea Trial fight was entirely cheesed by evade tanks.

That said, most Magic attacks from the hard bosses are not really that much of a problem because most of them are elemental based and that can be easily worked around. A well equipped Mistair/Basch/Silt will work wonders for the foreseeable hard content.
 

Syntsui

Member
It's funny that I remember everyone clambering and whaling on Cid and now they are complaining that he's on a banner. The power creep is real people.
That's because the people complaining already have him, if not multiple copies.

He is still the top dog and will be even more with enhancements.

We just want to catch up with JP asap because we can't stand how much better things are there, be the rates or the QoL stuff.
 

Muku

Member
FF Fans are so laughable man.

It was literally doomsday in here for days on end and then bam it's almost been reversed. Just took a good hacking

Not excited about them. What I've seen so far isn't enough to get me excited.

[JP] Managed to cap out Fayt this morning. Thinking of swapping out Camille for him right now, but not sure. Most of my units suck still due to lack of TMs. Been working on Tidus first. But curious to see how Fayt plays out.

Edit: Daily shit pull on main in GL is... Fran. Ugh.
 

Doctor_No

Member
Oddly enough while I was half asleep, i rolled the Free Summon and got Prishe. Is she good? lol I have no idea.

She's excellent, but you really have to learn her mechanics and combo. She fills a lot roles; AoE re-raise, MP battery, pinch healer, and a great DPS.

She takes more effort than other units, but her pay off is definitely there.

Plus, her TM is absolutely top notch.
 
Daily free pull was Maria.
Daily ticket pull was Fran.
Expedition ticket pull was Hope.

Haven’t spent any lapis on this banner and finally decided to do a 1/2 pull.

Anzelm. Which is number 60 since I started.

This game really wants me to quit, and these leaks have done nothing for me personally. There’s just nothing there that excites me. I really hate to say it, but I’m ***this*** close to closing up shop.
 
Good to know I'm done with this week's banner and can skip next week's as well. Just going to TM farm a bit here and there for a while.

I've got no content left since beating Malboro.



This should allow me really slow it down for a while. I think it will be a good thing for me.


Edit - Expedition ticket was Hyate. I’ll take it since his TM is very good. Now I have (3), so getting one for my 2nd Landu is welcome.
 

Dandte

Member
So what happened to the Kingsglave banner?

Kingsglaive FFXV event was planned to be released on 25 August, but cancelled. As you remember from Fan Festa, the event was also announced to be coming soon, but was missing on the video update. The event might be released this upcoming week, or it might be postponed due to unknown reason.

Nyx TMR will be changed to copy Hawkeye's, a unit from Seiken Densetsu 3 collaboration event in JP, a dagger with ATK+100, MAG+70, fire element, and LB fill rate+100%. In addition, Nyx will also be able to equip fists. His previous TMR (20% to all stats, auto-regen, auto-refresh) will be added as part of his passive.
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Source: https://exvius.gamepedia.com/Leaked_Info_Summary
 

robotuw

Member
Not excited about them. What I've seen so far isn't enough to get me excited.

Yeah I may be becoming disillusioned with this game. This all just looks like stuff we were expecting anyway. The only interesting banners in the next six months are the FFIV one and potentially the Halloween Awakenings. Next week's banner is crap, whether it's Kingsglaive or Orlandu. Ayaka we already knew about, and I'm not even sure on her anymore. The last trial we didn't even need a freaking healer. What is she specifically good for? Apparently we just don't get ability awakenings this month and fuck that.
 

Syntsui

Member
Yeah I may be becoming disillusioned with this game. This all just looks like stuff we were expecting anyway. The only interesting banners in the next six months are the FFIV one and potentially the Halloween Awakenings. Next week's banner is crap, whether it's Kingsglaive or Orlandu. Ayaka we already knew about, and I'm not even sure on her anymore. The last trial we didn't even need a freaking healer. What is she specifically good for? Apparently we just don't get ability awakenings this month and fuck that.
She sets up auto revive on your AoE cover tank and AoE full heal the team every turn basically. When needed, she can AoE heal all ailments even stop, but you won't be able to dual cast that turn.

Only CG Fina touches her, it's not even funny how game changing she is.
 

Broseybrose

Member
She sets up auto revive on your AoE cover tank and AoE full heal the team every turn basically. When needed, she can AoE heal all ailments even stop, but you won't be able to dual cast that turn.

Only CG Fina touches her, it's not even funny how game changing she is.

Hard to imagine a healer better than Tilith. Ill believe it when I see it.

I guess the difference will be dualcast with all the best healing magic. All Tilith's amazing skills cant be dualcasted. Plus auto-revive.
 

robotuw

Member
She sets up auto revive on your AoE cover tank and AoE full heal the team every turn basically. When needed, she can AoE heal all ailments even stop, but you won't be able to dual cast that turn.

Only CG Fina touches her, it's not even funny how game changing she is.

I get why she's good in theory. In theory she is amazing, but I want to know a specific fight where I would need her. A trial fight or something. Aside from the robot, where is my tank (but nobody else) going to die every turn? Can said fight not be done with tank+Rikku+Tilith instead? Stop is only a pain in the arena right now and I'm not pulling for a 5* just to make the arena easier.
 

Syntsui

Member
I get why she's good in theory. In theory she is amazing, but I want to know a specific fight where I would need her. A trial fight or something. Aside from the robot, where is my tank (but nobody else) going to die every turn? Can said fight not be done with tank+Rikku+Tilith instead? Stop is only a pain in the arena right now and I'm not pulling for a 5* just to make the arena easier.
Marlboro trial.
 

Doctor_No

Member
Oh yeah? I hadn't read up enough. I thought a provoke tank was completely hosed even with reraise until Mystair. Well if that's the only needed use she's still a no-go for me. Marlboro rewards are poor.

Tilith is great, and she's got a ton of functionality, but her healing output is simply anemic. She can't keep a tank with over 10k+ HP fully healed. Ayaka has the healing output, and the functionality, greater depth in flexibility, and as harder content is released, having an Ayaka will be very helpful.

That said, I don't think its an absolute necessity to have her. Content will be easier by having her, but there will be other tactics that don't require her. You don't need her for Marlboro for instance.

Also, a provoke tank is incredibly useful for Marlboro, primarily due to its snort move, which you can insure is your tank every time (you can of course cheese it by forcefully closing the app and relaunching).
 

SeanTSC

Member
Tilith is great, and she's got a ton of functionality, but her healing output is simply anemic. She can't keep a tank with over 10k+ HP fully healed. Ayaka has the healing output, and the functionality, greater depth in flexibility, and as harder content is released, having an Ayaka will be very helpful.

That said, I don't think its an absolute necessity to have her. Content will be easier by having her, but there will be other tactics that don't require her. You don't need her for Marlboro for instance.

Also, a provoke tank is incredibly useful for Marlboro, primarily due to its snort move, which you can insure is your tank every time (you can of course cheese it by forcefully closing the app and relaunching).

What? Tilith has a group 100% heal and a group 100% raise. That's hardly anemic. She just can't do multiple things at once.
 
Tilith has no issue keeping my WoL at 11,500 HP. In fact, sometimes he takes care of it himself thanks to Mechanical Heart.

Tilith has AoE 100% Heal, AoE 100% revive and AoE (excluding herself) HP/MP restore.

Her AoE status removal is missing stone though, which I am sure will be remedied with her enhancements. In fact, I expect her to have crazy good enhancements. She has basically zero equipment options and I believe the only unit who can't equip both weapons and shields, so they have more freedom to go all out with her skills.

I'm hoping for them to find a way to attach AoE re-raise to a skill as well as a AoE HoT, that way she has more freedom to use her other skills.
 

Doctor_No

Member
What? Tilith has a group 100% heal and a group 100% raise. That's hardly anemic. She just can't do multiple things at once.

I should have chosen my words better.

With a tank you need to heal nearly every single turn, if you use Radiant Light your Tilith is essentially pinned down, and she can't do much else, fine for straight forward battles, but harder ones like Marlboro she's near useless.

Essentially you're losing all utility to keep your tank healed.

If one of your units dies, then she has to revive all, great, but then your tank or other units aren't healed, and they probably need healing if your unit actually died with a tank on the team. Without that heal you could be losing other units, and things can easily get out of control. And that is the most basic and crucial role of a healer.

When you want MP charged, deal with status ailments, or any buff applied, you're stuck. As you said, she can't do multiple things at once, she quite simply isn't a consistent healer if you want any utility out of her. Given that we are now experiencing trails that can last dozens of turns, and sometimes nearly a hundred turns, you can't have a slot filled by a unit that can get pinned down doing one thing.

The reality of Tilith is that you need to supplement her with yet another unit that can help her. For instance a Rikku to support, or a singer, or have Tillith on Prism Heal to keep MP charged, and do actual useful things in between, and have a second healer or support to help her out. Using her for Radiant Light duty is a complete waste of a slot.

Ayaka, by comparison, can not only revive but heal, or deal with status ailments, or dispel, or even re-raise all in the same turn.
 

Lyrian

Member
Not entirely true, evade builds still cheese some bosses on JP here and there. For example Aranea Trial fight was entirely cheesed by evade tanks.

That said, most Magic attacks from the hard bosses are not really that much of a problem because most of them are elemental based and that can be easily worked around. A well equipped Mistair/Basch/Silt will work wonders for the foreseeable hard content.

We shall see, but at this point, I'm expecting Global Exclusive "trial adjustments" to neuter evasion taking going forward. Although, as you write, I would expect the edge case here and here as "proof" that evasion tanking isn't always near-meaningless.

Any info in the leak about exactly when we will be getting the moogle stacking QoL?

I've long closed out all the files, but I **think** I read that the moogle stacking update comes in October. One of the slides mentioned giving lots of 1% daily moogles as login bonuses to encourage people to get used to this new mechanic.

What? Tilith has a group 100% heal and a group 100% raise. That's hardly anemic. She just can't do multiple things at once.

I'm agreeing with Doctor No, here. I have Tilith and use her frequently and run into exactly the same problem he describes. Tilith's one fatal flaw is that she can only take one action no matter what. For harder content, this mandates sacrificing a second team slot for a buffer or backup healer. If Tilith is casting Radiant Light.... who is buffing the team that round? Raising the dead? Casting resists?

That's a **HUGE** problem on truly difficult content, as the lack of flexibility is something I very sorely miss from the days when Refia was my main healer with DC.
 

Kouriozan

Member
Ayaka is way more flexible than Tilith thanks to dual cast and reraise, people are doing fine on JP with 6* Garnet (for example) so you can live without her but she makes stuff more easy.
Personally will wait for CG Fina for that 3% rainbow rates even though it's a double rainbow banner, after getting CG Sakura of course.
 

evangd007

Member
Leak fun:

- Kingsglaive getting delayed explains our current rut.

- Do we know anything about this Autumn Festical other than Orlandu being on gacha?

- Cagnazzo might be the gem from FF4 fiends unless Barbaccia is Fryevia levels of broken. Not too excited about Rubicante; we already have a ton of good 4* base mages.

- biggest troll move by Gumi would be making the 5* raid gacha Arianna the best healer in the game.

Non-leak fun:

- My best pull from the free gacha was a Cecil. Trash everyday.
 

Syntsui

Member
Chance of getting CG Fina, with the rate up, will be the exact same as getting Ayaka, with no rate up. Think about this if you only care about her.
 

tuffymon

Member
All of this leak stuff is interesting... or at least some of it is, but how much stock are we putting into this? Until at least the next few weeks and see these banners actually lining up and all...
 

Syntsui

Member
All of this leak stuff is interesting... or at least some of it is, but how much stock are we putting into this? Until at least the next few weeks and see these banners actually lining up and all...
Tuesday updated news will pretty much confirm or debunk everything. You can't just predict a filler Orlandu banner out of nowhere.
 

Kouriozan

Member
All of this leak stuff is interesting... or at least some of it is, but how much stock are we putting into this? Until at least the next few weeks and see these banners actually lining up and all...

There is supposed an app and story update for Thursday.
Now there is a leak with FF XV next, and the other with Festival of the Autumn Moon (Orlandeau banner, it's the one laying everything until S2 Sakura) for Friday, this will be interesting to see.
 

Lyrian

Member
Leak fun:

- Kingsglaive getting delayed explains our current rut.

- Do we know anything about this Autumn Festical other than Orlandu being on gacha?

- Cagnazzo might be the gem from FF4 fiends unless Barbaccia is Fryevia levels of broken. Not too excited about Rubicante; we already have a ton of good 4* base mages.

- biggest troll move by Gumi would be making the 5* raid gacha Arianna the best healer in the game.

Non-leak fun:

- My best pull from the free gacha was a Cecil. Trash everyday.

All of this leak stuff is interesting... or at least some of it is, but how much stock are we putting into this? Until at least the next few weeks and see these banners actually lining up and all...

Big test will be about the accuracy of the this weekend's banner, as it is quite a bold claim. Orlandu + Ling on a TRIPLE gold banner is one hell of a claim. If that pans out, then there's reason to believe in the accuracy of the data, at least in the short term.

Hard to say with with Autumn Moon festival. Spreadsheet says it's only for one week, starting this Friday. If Ling is indeed in it, perhaps it's a rebrand of the Lunar New Year exploration?

Final piece of Season 1 is slated for this Thursday, with the tree trial, and a required client update. Perhaps moogle stacking this week?

LOL, beaten by everyone, hah!
 

RedZaraki

Banned
I finally have all the TMRs I need to attempt Malboro ELT. Just finished two good ones today.


My request to you guys: Can anybody put up Rikku a their friend unit?

It'd be really nice if the Rikku had:
- Paralysis and Petrify Resist
- Good amount of HP, Spirit, and Dark Resist
- Limit Break rate-up abilities

Thanks!
 

Lyrian

Member
I finally have all the TMRs I need to attempt Malboro ELT. Just finished two good ones today.


My request to you guys: Can anybody put up Rikku a their friend unit?

It'd be really nice if the Rikku had:
- Paralysis and Petrify Resist
- Good amount of HP, Spirit, and Dark Resist
- Limit Break rate-up abilities

Thanks!

Don't have any LB boosting gear, sorry :/
It's on the to-do list still.
 

robotuw

Member
I finally have all the TMRs I need to attempt Malboro ELT. Just finished two good ones today.


My request to you guys: Can anybody put up Rikku a their friend unit?

It'd be really nice if the Rikku had:
- Paralysis and Petrify Resist
- Good amount of HP, Spirit, and Dark Resist
- Limit Break rate-up abilities

Thanks!

In one month I'll be able to give you the LB queen. Can't help until then unfortunately.
 

Celegus

Member
I finally have all the TMRs I need to attempt Malboro ELT. Just finished two good ones today.


My request to you guys: Can anybody put up Rikku a their friend unit?

It'd be really nice if the Rikku had:
- Paralysis and Petrify Resist
- Good amount of HP, Spirit, and Dark Resist
- Limit Break rate-up abilities

Thanks!

Mine's up with 4 Ignorance, 5.7k HP, 55% dark and level 20 LB. Not sure if that's tanky enough or not, haven't tried Malboro yet myself so I can tweak if needed.
 
I finally have all the TMRs I need to attempt Malboro ELT. Just finished two good ones today.


My request to you guys: Can anybody put up Rikku a their friend unit?

It'd be really nice if the Rikku had:
- Paralysis and Petrify Resist
- Good amount of HP, Spirit, and Dark Resist
- Limit Break rate-up abilities

Thanks!

I got you. :)

7,348 HP, 55% Light res, 350% LB boost, lvl 25 LB and a Ribbon for good measure. Can't get above 246 SPR with this, nor do I have any ignorance for auto LB crystals, but you should be filling that LB bar.

Bring a unit with Entrust if you're going the Rikku LB spam route. Not sure what strategy you're going with.
 

PantherLotus

Professional Schmuck
After getting Dark Fina rainbow off one of these free dailies and Werei out of one of the EX tickets, I don’t see any sense in continuing to do any dailies or using tickets. SOOO I have 2 tickets and 8700ish lapis. But what am I saving for? We all know the next banner is going to be bait and the banner after that is going to be the one we actually want, right?

I have none of the top tier damage dealers, btw.
 
Sunday’s have been pretty good for me today. Shantotto went to 95% and got another setzer.

Not as good as two weeks ago’s Ok or last weeks werei, but decent
 

bonkeng

Member
It's nice to see exviusGAF finally back in positive spirit. It's been gloomy for a long while lol.

Anyway, those leaks, it feels intentionally leaked by gumi to keep players from quitting. And it's working lol. Without those leaks, GAF and Reddit will still be gloomy for weeks to come.
 

Prototype

Member
After getting Dark Fina rainbow off one of these free dailies and Werei out of one of the EX tickets, I don’t see any sense in continuing to do any dailies or using tickets. SOOO I have 2 tickets and 8700ish lapis. But what am I saving for? We all know the next banner is going to be bait and the banner after that is going to be the one we actually want, right?

I have none of the top tier damage dealers, btw.

I pulled until I got a Werei. Only thing I wanted. Took 5 pulls. Back to saving for me too.no dailies.
 

Celegus

Member
It's nice to see exviusGAF finally back in positive spirit. It's been gloomy for a long while lol.

Anyway, those leaks, it feels intentionally leaked by gumi to keep players from quitting. And it's working lol. Without those leaks, GAF and Reddit will still be gloomy for weeks to come.

Looks like a pretty jam packed rest of the year! Gonna take a lot more than a few ho-hum weeks to get rid of me. I don't mind just putting the game on hibernate for a bit, I've never had a doubt it would pick back up again.
 

RedZaraki

Banned
Not sure why, but I've only seen one Rikku in my list in the past hour.....no idea when list will refresh, so I've been running Earth Shrine to filter through companions
 
Holy shit, this weekend!

Spent (3) more tickets thinking “”what the hell”.

Veritas of the Heaven’s, Gau and Knight Delita!


So glad about Knight Delita, even if it’s mainly for his TM. WoL is going to love that! Going to push him over 12k!

Veritas of the Heaven’s TM is also great for Fohlen or Reberta!
 
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