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The Walking Dead - Season 2 - Sundays on AMC

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C.Dark.DN

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I hope there's a wedge that develops between Lori and Rick.

I don't want to see a whimp anymore. His transformation into a BA/Heel has to go without resistance or regret.
 

masud

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Lol she's not a ninja/samurai! Comic spoilers (well more like backround character info that the show might leave out or change completely):
She fenced in college and her neighbor was a big weapon nerd with a huge collection. So went shit went down she took the sword.
 

Air

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I'm down for the new ricktatorship. Episode was good. Very interested in seeing how they handle the next season.
 

C.Dark.DN

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Does anyone notice the background going out of focus for a sec like it needs to load?

I think it might be my IPTV ( Internet Protocol ) fiber optic service.
 

iammeiam

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Lori is seriously the worst, in every possible way. I could not believe how long it took her to realize Carl was missing this episode. And the second she dialed back her hug of Rick during his explanation of what went down with Shane, I knew she'd be pitching a fucking fit over it. Know how to prevent your son from shooting the zombified corpse of your former fuckbuddy/his former surrogate father? Maybe keep an eye on him. Half an eye. An eighth of an eye. Anything! T-dog should have let her walk back to Rick.

One thing I do find kind of interesting, and I hope they follow up on in S3, is that everybody's lost all their personal belongings at this point. They all moved everything into the house last episode, plus they don't even have the RV anymore.

This show is so dumb, but it's usually entertaining dumb, so I like it. Sort of funny that the ominous ending shot of the building only really has meaning if you know what's coming in the comics.
 

Zeliard

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Rick made himself look worse than he probably had to. His actions were largely understandable as self-defense, but he practically painted the picture to the group that he killed Shane because the dude was a pestering annoyance.
 

SamuraiX-

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Rick made himself look worse than he probably had to. His actions were largely understandable as self-defense, but he practically painted the picture to the group that he killed Shane because the dude was a pestering annoyance.

Yup.

Which is probably how he really felt, deep down. And I know Rick is now trying to cut the bull shit, but the group didn't have to hear everything all at once like that. lol
 
Rick made himself look worse than he probably had to. His actions were largely understandable as self-defense, but he practically painted the picture to the group that he killed Shane because the dude was a pestering annoyance.

he mentioned that randall was killed by shane who staged the whole thing to get him though. I guess he could have emphasized that more but at that point it seems like everyone was just pissing him off, having the gall to doubt him after all he has done.
 

MutFox

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So why aren't those slave chain zombies aggressive?
 
Carol really pissed me off right at the end with that "He's not honourable. You should be leader. You are his henchman." bs. Why did they make her so unlikeable right at the end? She had so much sympathy from me before, but now, not so much.
 
Didn't T-Dog bail on his friend (the black chick, Jackie was it?) in the season 1 finale too?

If I remember correctly she was like "I'm staying here to die" and he was like "Alright, peace out then" and just left without really caring or trying to convince her to leave with the rest. T-Dog only cares about himself.
It wasn't his friend neccesarily. They spoke maybe once or twice before to each other. It went something along the lines of him unconvincingly saying she should come but she says she was staying so he just accepted and ran. There was no connection to them before other than they were the only black cast members.

To be fair, she never told Rick to kill Shane explicitly.

She was just warning him that "Shane is dangerous and he won't stop."

She probably had something more diplomatic in mind, like talking Shane out of his sociopathic tendencies. What's sad is that Rick tried. He really did.
No, Lori's intent was pretty clear that she wanted him dead. The tone she talked about and mentioned that Rick killed two people to protect the group and then she switches the conversation to about Shane and that he must do what is necessary to protect his kid.
T-Dog has to be around as a future
love interest
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I wonder if they will go with
T-dog or Daryll. In the comics it is a Tyreese/Carol/Michonne love triangle. However, in here T-dog seems to be Tyreese replacement and Daryll is Carol's love interest. Personally Daryll and Michonne seem like they would get along better but then again T-Dog should have something interesting.
Rick made himself look worse than he probably had to. His actions were largely understandable as self-defense, but he practically painted the picture to the group that he killed Shane because the dude was a pestering annoyance.
Yeah that was downright stupid. I get he was trying to explain himself but he made himself worse as possible.

The MST3K factor hasn't quite made up for the loss of Camelot yet, but this seems to have good enough ratings that it won't get canceled soon.
Yes, ratings are huge for The Walking Dead. Probably the biggest show that AMC has ever had based on the way they promote it and TV ratings that come in. They purposefully string along previews to upcoming episodes in the midst of Comic book men to entice people to watch it. They typically air commercials such as "If you like The Walking Dead then you should check out this show". They have an entire show dedicated to talking about the show and usually don't seem to have issues airing older episodes. Based on merchadising in Videogames and that it is widely talked about on GAF, Twitter and Facebook, I'd say it's a pretty big show. I believe The Walking Dead Season 2 premiere had the biggest ratings out of any other Cable show on TV.
 
I was so surprised Hershel didn't die. Surprised and happy.

But I did laugh at his endless ammo shotgun. I started watching the original Dawn of the Dead after the episode was over, and it's crazy how careful Romero was about guns and ammo capacity in that film versus TWD.

That Shane-less episode felt really weird though, fuck.

Fuck Shane. Ricktatorship forever.

Didn't T-Dog bail on his friend (the black chick, Jackie was it?) in the season 1 finale too?

If I remember correctly she was like "I'm staying here to die" and he was like "Alright, peace out then" and just left without really caring or trying to convince her to leave with the rest. T-Dog only cares about himself.

No, T-Dog tried (briefly) to reason with her, but she made it clear she was staying.

I just think its weird after the Carl incident they wouldn't shoot when someone is directly behind their target, but they still do all the time.

Yep :/

Yup.

Which is probably how he really felt, deep down. And I know Rick is now trying to cut the bull shit, but the group didn't have to hear everything all at once like that. lol

Yeah, I think that much was clear during the scene itself. Rick had to do it, but he was also motivated by anger and aggression when he struck the blow. Like he said, he gave Shane every chance (and then some), something Shane wouldn't have done for him in the same situation, IMO.
 

3N16MA

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If only this Rick was around when Shane was alive, they would have made a great team. Lori is a complete bitch and mindfucked Shane, no wonder the guy was hitting himself. It's obvious she still has feelings for him but she threw him to the curb to let little Ricky feel welcomed when she found out he was alive. Wasn't Rick and Lori having problems before the walkers showed up? They would most likely gotten a divorce and Shane would have been hitting that anyways.

Carly was annoying as ever. I'm referring to him as Carly from now on.
 

- J - D -

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I don't like how they introduced Michonne. I'm glad they kept the sword for her. I'd imagine a samurai sword would be a really good weapon to have for zombie killing and I'd guess some weapon stores would carry one.

But...

She's wearing a hood in the live action version. Why? I would think peripheral vision would be important in the zombie apocalypse, especially in a forest filled with the fuckers.

She killed the zombie attacking Andrea from like 10 feet away. lol

The two chained zombies worked in the comics, but it doesn't in live-action. Looks kinda goofy, actually.
 

SamuraiX-

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No, Lori's intent was pretty clear that she wanted him dead. The tone she talked about and mentioned that Rick killed two people to protect the group and then she switches the conversation to about Shane and that he must do what is necessary to protect his kid.

Nope.

She was the unintentional driving force that pushed the two of them to collide like they did, but Lori wouldn't ever want Rick to actually kill Shane or even imply it. Her character has basically not changed at all since the beginning and she's still trying to live in the old world. She has no "kill the living to survive" complex in her yet like Rick and Shane did.

In all honesty though, I don't think anyone had any idea how badly Rick and Shane were at ends with each other. Dale and Daryl probably have some semblance of an idea, but the rest of the group had no clue about everything that the two went through before Rick ultimately took Shane's life. The group will probably never understand that what happened was the only viable outcome in the end.
 

RatskyWatsky

Hunky Nostradamus
I quite liked the finale. I don't really have anything new to add though, so I'll just echo what everyone else is saying:

Exciting zombie scenes (unlimited ammo and headshots aside) were exciting.

Lori is confusing and stupid, etc. By now the writers know how frustrated people are with her, so hopefully they can fix her in season 3. (I have faith in Mazzara!)

Rick with balls is great. Finally establishing himself as leader is a great development, and with Shane and Dale gone, and Andrea separated from the group, the Ricktatorship should hopefully run smoothly.

The reason "we're all infected" is a game changer is because before that, they could have made their own communities and hoped for the tide to turn or for the zombies to somehow get wiped out.

If EVERYONE'S infected, then even if every zombie exploded tomorrow they'd still live in a society where zombie outbreaks could start at any moment.

Good point. That certainly makes things seem bleaker.

first the barn was full of zombies

now the outside is full of zombies

haha nice!

Oh no not......him!

Oh no not..... her!

Exactly. :/ Jimmy and Patricia? Yeah. Too bad for them I guess. I'm surprised that Herschel and T-Dog made it though. Same with unnamed blonde #2. Gotta have those season 3 premiere deaths, I suppose.

I'm sorry, but Andrea's the epitome of badass this episode. HATERS U MAD? Of course you are...

Yep. Andrea is a badass. She saves Carol and is left all alone to die, yet she manages to fight her way through the zombie horde, off the farm and into the woods, where she runs all night and all day, only stopping to kill more zombies. Damn. I would have been pissed if they had killed her after all that. And she was saved by a ninja! Holy shit! I need to read the comics yesterday.

Nope.

She was the unintentional driving force that pushed the two of them to collide like they did, but Lori wouldn't ever want Rick to actually kill Shane or even imply it.

"You would kill the living to protect what's yours?"
 
i like how they're all acting shocked and horrified that their de facto leader is telling them not to run alone into the woods at night in the middle of a zombie apocalypse, and that he killed a crazy man in self-defense, and it's being played up as rick ~going crazy~


next season: rick rations food and gives patrol schedules to people, HAS RICK GONE TOO FAR
season 4: rick orders infant vaccinations against polio and rubella HAS RICK LOST HIS HUMANITY

No kidding. The whole 'Rick has become a monster' vibe that everyone seems to suddenly think is so mind-numbongly idiotic. Cause he killed a crazy guy who lied and endangered everyone, then planned to murder him, in self defense? Cause he thinks its a better idea to stay put till light than go running randomly into the woods in pitch darkness? WE CAN'T STAY HERE WE HAVE TO GO!! Where, you fuckfaces?

I watch this show for the action and the zombies, and I wouldn't give 2 shits if every character in this show died. Every single one of them acts in an extraordinarily stupid, illogical, and irrational way. Just like how everyone thought it was a fantastic idea to drive around and expend all their fucking ammo against an army of zombies when they had to know it wouldn't make a difference. You'd think they would appreciate the value of ammunication by now and not be in such a reckless hurry to get rid of it all senselessly.
 

squidyj

Member
I don't like how they introduced Michonne. I'm glad they kept the sword for her. I'd imagine a samurai sword would be a really good weapon to have for zombie killing and I'd guess some weapon stores would carry one.

But...

She's wearing a hood in the live action version. Why? I would think peripheral vision would be important in the zombie apocalypse, especially in a forest filled with the fuckers.

She killed the zombie attacking Andrea from like 10 feet away. lol

The two chained zombies worked in the comics, but it doesn't in live-action. Looks kinda goofy, actually.

Basically you take a world filled with these characters that while inconsistently written at least attempt to approximate real people (yes, even Daryl's redneck-fu) and then you pull in this Mysterious Michonne hidden in shadow trailing docile walkers and decapitating bitches with graceful strokes from her samurai sword. I mean it's like she's from a completely different show. A show where people execute crazy kung fu moves and flips and shit and there's like a dark magical force and only the wandering sellsword of unknown origin can defeat the evil wizard who is also the chancellor and restore order to the kingdom.
 

- J - D -

Member
I didn't notice the zombie blood splattered onto the back of Hershel's dome the first time. That's some nice attention to detail. It's kinda funny too.
 
everyone was getting headshots. glen hanging halfway out of a moving truck holding a shotgun was getting headshots. lori was getting headshots from the porch. otis was getting headshots from his grave.
 

Hiltz

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I liked the episode despite some inconsistencies and questionable design choices.

By the way, wouldn't Rick shooting a gun that close behind Hershel hurt the old man's ears and make him flinch especially when being caught off guard like that ?
 

RatskyWatsky

Hunky Nostradamus
She's wearing a hood in the live action version. Why?

They used a stand in because if they had used Danai Gurira then the casting would have been announced beforehand, thus spoiling the surprise. It seems like most people didn't expect that character to be revealed until season 3, so I think it was a good trade off.

The two chained zombies worked in the comics, but it doesn't in live-action.

Why don't we wait and see how they're actually utilized on the show first?
 

Raoh

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If only this Rick was around when Shane was alive, they would have made a great team. Lori is a complete bitch and mindfucked Shane, no wonder the guy was hitting himself. It's obvious she still has feelings for him but she threw him to the curb to let little Ricky feel welcomed when she found out he was alive. Wasn't Rick and Lori having problems before the walkers showed up? They would most likely gotten a divorce and Shane would have been hitting that anyways.

Carly was annoying as ever. I'm referring to him as Carly from now on.

I wouldn't get used to new rick, everyone is pretty much in crisis mode and character development mode.

I think they will switch again, he is pretty much laying the law down because its the only way to keep everyone alive/in line/together, if he doesn't, like he said everyone would just be running into the woods in the dark.

I don't like how they introduced Michonne. I'm glad they kept the sword for her. I'd imagine a samurai sword would be a really good weapon to have for zombie killing and I'd guess some weapon stores would carry one.

But...

She's wearing a hood in the live action version. Why? I would think peripheral vision would be important in the zombie apocalypse, especially in a forest filled with the fuckers.

She killed the zombie attacking Andrea from like 10 feet away. lol

The two chained zombies worked in the comics, but it doesn't in live-action. Looks kinda goofy, actually.


With all the Michonne cries from the fans it seems someone went more for a flashy entrance over authenticity, but we should not be surprised. writers/producers/studios think viewers are dumb and wont catch flaws. We caught it with a gif, most of america wont catch it even if they watch the dvr replay 5 times in a row.
 

Filth

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for anyone that has read the comics, if i wanted to start reading from roughly where season two ended which comic number should i start from?
 

Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
The thing with Lori, is that she was just taking in the fact that Shane was dead. Her mood didn't turn to bitch mode, until the Carl killing zombie Shane part. So whatever reason it is, it's based on that fact.

About the prison. Really loved that shot. Just incredibly spooky, this large, dark building. Had vague feelings of the original Resident Evil game, with the mansion in the forest.

I know it was CGI, but it looked damn close to the comic version of the prison, the layout I mean. Wonder if they found a prison that looked close to it in real life.


About Michonne: figure the hood was used, mostly because they had no one casted for the part, at the time. Could be a guy under that hood, for all we know.
 

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He measures in centimeters
So why aren't those slave chain zombies aggressive?

I have that same question. It isn't like they are smart enough to know their jaws and arms are gone...they'd just keep coming forward regardless of that. So it is completely stupid unless they have some other explanation.
 
I thought the death count would be a bit higher. I knew Jimmy & Patricia would probably bite it, but I thought Hershel and maybe T-Dawg would go too.

I've always wondered why the actress the plays Beth has a featured credit, despite her having roughly the same amount of screen time that Patricia and Jimmy got, but that very fact led me to believe that she would survive. I wonder if they plan on expanding her character next season.

Also, are we finally seeing the birth of awesome Andrea?
 

squidyj

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The thing with Lori, is that she was just taking in the fact that Shane was dead. Her mood didn't turn to bitch mode, until the Carl killing zombie Shane part. So whatever reason it is, it's based on that fact.

About the prison. Really loved that shot. Just incredibly spooky, this large, dark building. Had vague feelings of the original Resident Evil game, with the mansion in the forest.

I know it was CGI, but it looked damn close to the comic version of the prison, the layout I mean. Wonder if they found a prison that looked close to it in real life.


About Michonne: figure the hood was used, mostly because they had no one casted for the part, at the time. Could be a guy under that hood, for all we know.

If they hadn't cast anyone they shouldn't have cut up to Michonne. Just focused on Andrea's face in a long take and allow her to act. Then open next season with that same shot of Andrea and finally we cut up to see Michonne in a less ridiculous manner. Even a shot that clearly framed the sword without showing the wielder would have been preferrable.

Edit: Actually this is how I would do it, long take for all of Andrea's walker kills carrying on as the walker seems poised to overpower her (maybe something more dynamic, use your legs girl, kick!). head cut continuing long take and then linger on Andrea for a couple seconds. Cut to shot of blade, crosscut to Rick's group.
 
If only this Rick was around when Shane was alive, they would have made a great team. Lori is a complete bitch and mindfucked Shane, no wonder the guy was hitting himself. It's obvious she still has feelings for him but she threw him to the curb to let little Ricky feel welcomed when she found out he was alive. Wasn't Rick and Lori having problems before the walkers showed up? They would most likely gotten a divorce and Shane would have been hitting that anyways.

Shane was fucking crazy and now he's dead, bro. Accept it and move on.

Rick is not behaving like Shane, either. He's just tired of the group's whining. People who aren't doing anything, never do anything (Carol refused to even express an opinion about the planned execution, saying she didn't "sign on" for that), and who don't know anything about the constant pressure on Rick's shoulders are behaving like they need to call the shots. Of course he told them to shut up.

The thing with Lori, is that she was just taking in the fact that Shane was dead. Her mood didn't turn to bitch mode, until the Carl killing zombie Shane part. So whatever reason it is, it's based on that fact.

Yep. That's what really upset her: her baby (who she never watches lol) is a "killer" now.

I kinda wished she had become a zombie a while back, I mean she almost looks like one.

Lori zombie? Impossible: zombies eat ;)
 

3N16MA

Banned
Shane was fucking crazy and now he's dead, bro. Accept it and move on.

Rick is not behaving like Shane, either. He's just tired of the group's whining. People who aren't doing anything, never do anything (Carol refused to even express an opinion about the planned execution, saying she didn't "sign on" for that), and who don't know anything about the constant pressure on Rick's shoulders are behaving like they need to call the shots. Of course he told them to shut up.



Yep. That's what really upset her: her baby (who she never watches lol) is a "killer" now.



Lori zombie? Impossible: zombies eat ;)


I will accept nothing.
 
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