GhostTrick
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But we already know what hardware it runs on. Even at the high end of Wii U rumors, it's not even close.
You mean high end PC with a single GTX680 ?
Even PS4/720 won't be that close.
But we already know what hardware it runs on. Even at the high end of Wii U rumors, it's not even close.
Based on nothing but wishful thinking obviously.
PS3/360 are DX9 compliant hardware with 512MB RAM. WiiU is DX10.1/DX11 compliant, more powerful and has 1.5-2GB of RAM. But given no info about the game you're going to assume it'll look better on PS3/360?..
Am I the only one who read the tweet as :
Question - "Can you hint if the wii u will be able to run Unreal Engine 4"
Answer - "No (as in I can't hint), at GDC etc etc"
What's wishful about it? Why do I care at the end of the day if WiiU runs UE4 or not.
My opinion on this subject is (evidently) counter to yours. I have no dog in this fight.
You're the one worked up about it. Not me.
I gave you my reasons in the previous post.
UE4 might end up being the Wii-U's version of 3DS scratches and "I'm waiting for a revision". I expect a year or more of some people wilfully ignoring the excellent first and third party software on offer on Wii-U, neglecting to notice that its the best looking stuff available that isn't on a PC, and then come E3 2013 - some people will try and hail this as a reason to overlook the system altogether. Actually, if the demo impresses, they'll probably hail it as a reason to overlook it this week. Not everyone will be so closed minded. Its not like there's a UE4 supporting console releasing this fall to do any damage, and it remains to be seen what the cost of entry will be next year to one that *does* support it.
Truthfully, I think the telling thing will be when people continue to buy what will be perhaps technically inferior SKUs of software on 360/PS3 because that's where their friends lists are, or because they prefer that console and its controller or whatever... that will tell you how important this is and where Nintendo's priorities should really lie. They should have (and hopefully have) concentrated on making the console as appealing and affordable as it can possibly be - meaning complete overhaul of gameplay and services, while making it as strong as they can within those constraints. If they've planned it well, and execute it well, they'll have a hit on their hands no matter what anyone on here says or feels about it.
This entire issue has been ridiculously childish and dramatic.
Sorry but half of people miss what really matterin Wii U vs UE4 debate.
Most of new features in UE4 need serious hardware.
If rumours are true about Wii U, console won't have power to deliver new features.
It's like using windows 7 on 98 hardware.
Yes there will be upgrades but it won't work like win7 on win7 hardware.
Hold on a moment, you just said your opinion isn't based on any info, what am I then to assume its based on if not wishful thinking? Did you flip a coin?
I'm just being logical here, I'm not worked up in the slightest..
Wishful thinking is the formation of beliefs and making decisions according to what might be pleasing to imagine instead of by appealing to evidence, rationality or reality.
It's like using windows 7 on 98 hardware.
Yes there will be upgrades but it won't work like win7 on win7 hardware.
The Wii U is getting Unreal Engine 3 though.I find it ironic that unreal engine 3 got the most flak this generation for any game that was announced to be using it and people are disappointed that the wii won't get the next iteration. Still it kind of sucks but truly what matters most is good third party support in terms of games not the capabilities of the console.
Sorry but half of people miss what really matterin Wii U vs UE4 debate.
Most of new features in UE4 need serious hardware.
If rumours are true about Wii U, console won't have power to deliver new features.
It's like using windows 7 on 98 hardware.
Yes there will be upgrades but it won't work like win7 on win7 hardware.
Wishful thinking is implying that this is some scenario that I desire to come to fruition.
I don't care either way.
Just admit it. You don't actually know what 'wishful thinking' means.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wishful_thinking
Wishful thinking is implying that this is some scenario that I desire to come to fruition.
I don't care either way.
This doesn't seem to be the case after all. It's supposedly noticeably more powerful (or can at least do things that would be prohibitive if not impossible on PS3 and 360), but it takes games specifically designed for the system to show it - most mulitplatform games will look more or less the same.I thought it was already a given that the WiiU will only be just as powerful, or slightly more so than the PS3/360? I'm surprised people are, erm, surprised at the thought of WiiU being underpowered.
I think you are being to picky, the spirit of it's example is reasonable and that's what matters in the end. With enough effort and straw grasping you can find faults even in the most solid and reasonable arguments.No offence, but that isn't a very good analogy. Windows 7 runs on very low end machines and tiny netbooks, it has a much better footprint than its predecessor - Vista, and can run without too much sacrifice on machines that previously ran only Windows XP. If you're saying the difference in hardware is going to be like a 1998 PC vs a 2010/11 PC, then you're sorely mistaken.
If you're saying that it mustn't have the hardware to run UE4, then that would be blindingly self-evident at this point.
do we know if wii u can run unreal engine 3.5?
http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1401272/epic_unreal_engine_4_platforms_unconfirmed_beyond_pc.html?
Looks thread worthy, I'd make it myself but I pledged not to till after E3.
Also, I TOLD YOU we couldn't trust that tweet.
Responding to our email, Epic told NowGamer that Unreal Engine 3 will support Wii U - but that it hasn't "confirmed platforms for UE4 beyond PC."
That could change next week, with Epic revealing Unreal Engine 4 in more detail at E3 which Keighley said will include 'realtime interactive prototypes'.
Really? Off the top of my head:
Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2
Donkey Kong Country Returns
Metroid Prime 3/Trilogy
New Super Mario Bros Wii
Wario Land
Mario Kart
Kirby's Epic Yarn and Return to Dreamland
Super Smash Bros Brawl
Motherfucking Xenoblade
Zelda: Skyward Sword (and even Twilight Princess)
Like i said no real surprises here, either it WiiU wouldn't run UE4 or it would with sacrifices.
So basically you're assuming MS and Sony are releasing a second UE3 console....I'd suggest a c) - "third parties are more comfortable remaining on UE3 rather than pushing tech harder". I think that one's very plausible, and would put Epic in an interesting quandary. Particularly if at least one of Sony and Microsoft follow suit; do remember that MASSIVE POWER isn't actually a given for either of them, particularly Sony given their financial situation and the Vita's troubled beginnings.
Yep, that's new thread-worthy.
To be fair, you came to a definite conclusion based on what you admit is no actual evidence. *Something* swayed you. What was it?
Latent bias?
Coin toss?
A desire to troll?
Wild 'n' crazy hunch?
Look, if you don't have a reason to believe it (which you have said, not me) then I don't think I'm out of line in assuming you must want to believe it. Otherwise you flipped a coin, or you had a a dream or something. Just tell me your psychic and we can end this conversation.
Wishful thinking is quite self explanatory, I don't think we need any wiki links to figure out its meaning.
Please don't.
Yep, that's new thread-worthy.
*chortle*
I imagine you slamming your fist on your desk as you typed out that post.
No you're suggesting that I want such an outcome out of a desire to see the WiiU 'fail' (for want of a better word) and for Arkham City WiiU to lag behind the PS360 ports.
I responded with why can't I have a dispassionate point of view? What does it impact me if the WiiU version of Arkham City looks like crap or is a an utter revelation on the WiiU? I said it before and I'll say it again, I have no dog in this fight.
You do however. And clearly you're worried about it or you wouldn't be bringing this up again and again....
Why don't you share your concerns for the WiiU with the rest of the group?
..., and yet.
*chortle*
I imagine you slamming your fist on your desk as you typed out that post.
I'm not--I'm content to just wait until E3. I don't even really care that much about the UE4 support (although for Nintendo it would be much better for their relationship with third parties). I was just commenting on it being thread-worthy.
At the very least, an amendment to the thread title.
He already said it would be because of the lack of experience with the hardware.I'm not getting involved in this nonsense. Just answer me a simple question. Why do you believe the WiiU version will look worse?
Look at who posted this thread. Yep...Or even just lock this thread.
I'm not getting involved in this nonsense. Just answer me a simple question. Why do you believe the WiiU version will look worse?
*chortle*
I imagine you slamming your fist on your desk as you typed out that post.
M°°nblade;38296506 said:He already said it would be because of the lack of experience with the hardware.
Nevertheless, what he calls an opinion is actually just a prediction. Like you said, there is nothing you could base your opinion on, on this moment.
We don't know how advanced the Wii U will be compared to PS360 hardware, which API's it can use, we don't know how developerfriendly the system is.
The Wii was already one of the best selling consoles of all time a few years after its release and still never got a dumbed-down UE3 though.UE4 titles are still years off. If WiiU sells like crazy and can be established before the Ps4/720 i doubt that Epic wont find a way to port the engine on it.