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Wii U Thread - Now in HD!
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are you serious my dear negative nancy? pikmin, nsmbu and nintendoland are insulting? so you played them? or did you only saw them via videos and made your mind up?then, thats an opinion not a fact.
It's confusing but I didn't think of the "nintendo network" hence the use of "a nintendo network".
But if you're correct, the game would still be up because it's working with the nintendo wifi connection and not anything by tomy or eighting.
I would like to clarify my position about this topic.
Imho considering Wii U specs more similar to PS3 ones, that should allow multiplatform developments; considering Wii's success (also with its troubles) that testify that you should not underestimate Nintendo especially in Japan (where MS is zero), considering the positioning that the Wii U could receive being a brand new console receiving Dragon Quest main chapter at launch or near, considering the better-then-ever relationships between Nintendo and some software houses (such as Tecmo-Koei, Level5 but also Capcom and Square Enix considering MH and DQ recent iterations), considering that Japanese softco could benefit from an HW not-too-stressed in terms of technology, considering Iwata's tweets and Japanese lack of info about almost everything about Wii U....
I'd expect some sort of japanese support, maybe even better than the western one.
I did a list of possible (imho) games (possible in terms of commercial importance, brand awarness, chances for softco to take advantage of, demographic focus and so on) because I think that that list could happen.
That said, there are a lot of problems or doubts up to now, imho:
1) we still don't know (due to Iwata's tweet) if there will be a proper pre-TGS conference in Japan to present Wii U and its actual launch-window library
2) we know that a lot of Japanese (but western-oriented) PS360 multiplatform titles are not coming to the Wii U (Final Fantasy XIII 3, Metal Gear Solid Ground Zero, Resident Evil 6, Lord of Shadows 2 and so on)
3) we didn't hear rumors or hints from nobody (except Capcom that in any case hinted at just ONE game, that could possibly be an HD port of an old game)
4) Iwata already lied in other occasions, as before E3 about western developed 3DS games incoming
5) Wii's troubles in selling properly third party games (I know that there were many reasons for this, but the problem existed in any case)
And ShockingAlberto post is just confirming my phears:
If I'm reading this correctly, that measn that in your knowledge/opinion Wii U will launch with just those 4 Japanese games that's horrible also compared to the Wii's launch (except maybe for DQX IF it will be released at launch).
Especially if you are talking about the launch window, when you speak about "end of the year", due to the fact that not knowing about post-March 13 titles is the Nintendo way of managing the launch of the system and it's not strictly related to the existence-non existence of the games themselves.
I don't think that is what he was saying at all.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I fully expect this to be a Wii U exclusive.
So:
Every Wii U game announced before the end of the year is not going to be released before the end of the year.
I've read it as no of the possible game announced will hit the market within the end of the year.
Is mine poor English problem?
maybe yes! HAHA ;p
Well for your specific example it's also about how the game in question handles online stuff. If it uses peer-to-peer connection than you may be able to play that game online until the Nintendo WFC is shut down but if it uses dedicated servers hosted by the developer/publisher then you are dependent on how long they feel like paying for those (see: EA shutting down servers for their games that are sometimes not even that old)
ScreenSplitter
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What's your reasoning on that? I know we got three KH games on DS/3DS, but that doesn't mean much. After all, we got CoM on GBA, but then no KHII on Gamecube/Wii.
I believe what he was saying is not every Wii U game announced this year will release this year. He wasn't saying that about every single game.
Let me add this- while it hasn't been confirmed, a Gamestop Italy list had Orochi 3,PES13. and a new DECA sports game listed. That list has proven accurate so far, with F1 Allstars basically confirmed in this forum.
Bjoern the Smexy
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Understood..and I remember that list. I'm really annoyed by this silence, anyway...
Epic Mickey: Power of Illusion
Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror's of Fate
Scribblenauts Unlimited
Rabbids Rumble
Skylanders Giants
...?
Of course ^.^.
Nintendo will unveil the Super Wiimote Plus Infinite Times Space, with which we will be able to play Kingdom Hearts as if we had the Keyblade in our hands.
And Wii U Gamepad controller available, for those who want normal experience.
PS4 and Wii U the home of Kingdom Hearts 3.
F-YEAH!!
only reacted to nilauls post. i´m clueless like you on this part
ShockingAlberto
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I actually think you're crazy
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Because I think Nintendo shells out the money to make it an exclusive to their system.
evilromero
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Not sure why everyone is so down on NintendLand. Looks like a lot of fun and isn't it from the creator of Animal Crossing? Why would it not be good?
What level of crazy are we talking? Batshit insane crazy?
And I'm guessing there's been no new news again...
Patcher is in the position he's in now (as far as being quoted in the media so much) not because he's respected but because he's an entertaining sound bite for fanboys. I'm sure he knows exactly what he's doing (getting hits for articles with his ridiculous buffoonery) and doesn't even mean a lot of it, its pretty obvious the man plays the clown for media attention.
People are so negative about this. Here's the facts, Nintendo owns the Japanese market. There is no way in hell the developers are not going to support the WiiU. If you want to be concerned about Western support, fine. But Japanese support will be there.
I don't think it is quite that simple- much of Nintendo's success with 3rd parties has been on their portables. The Wii was not an overwhelming success for most 3rd parties. Still, I agree generally on your point in that there is no way Japanese support is going to be worse than Western support.
I think we've been well over that and most of us have arrived at a similar conclusion once the dust settled. Everyone was down on NintendoLand was simply because of its E3 stage reveal.
and this ridiculous buffoonery is based on one thing: he is a game industry analyst. one of the most pointless jobs ever.
ScreenSplitter
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Well they clearly did with Monster Hunter 4, would be nice having something the rest of the world is privileged enough to play.
Because they don't like fun. Also, the E3 stage reveal was stilted and slow as hell.
Apophis2036
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Instant buy for me at £199 but we all know no matter how much it is in America it's going to be at least £250 in the UK, esp considering PS3 and the 250GB 360 are still around the £200 mark online.
No, we don't. The price set for the system in Japan and US will have much more bearing on the UK price than the price of other games systems. I mean the 360 250GB is still $300 online in the US, does that mean we all know WiiU will be at least $350 over there?, of course not.
Spieler Eins
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How's that a good thing? Guy has literally copied the same game over ten years 1:1 several times and was completely unable to make something out of the concepts potential. (Well, admittedly the games were slightly different each time, since content was actually removed every game...) Nintendoland looks equally lazy and yet it's supposed to satisfy fans that were looking for full-fledged Nintendo games on their new console. I hope it really isn't a pack-in, just so there's a chance that it doesn't meet sales expectations. Nintendo has apparently forgotten the lesson they've learned in their arrogant-mode Wii Music year and need to come back to reality.
Yup. Because Nintendo Land was treated by Nintendo as the awesome final reveal, while fans wanted somekind of awesome final reveal ala Zelda.
Nintendo Land does look good, and according to impressions, it is really fun to play. It is one of the games I am planning to buy. Should give nice multiplayer moments.
If JP devs/publishers didn't support 360, they'd have gone broke in a second (obviously exaggerated) since the 360 rule(s/d) North America basically. They just couldn't not do it.
ShockingAlberto
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Nintendoland was fun to play from what time I have spent with it.
I expect that the jury is already out for most people, though.
I expect that the jury is already out for most people, though.
Nostremitus
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I certainly enjoyed it...
demosthenes
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Butterfly effect and all that Jazz.
So they don't support 360, do they support Wii more? Do they support PS3 more? Does PS3 get exclusives? So yes obviously exaggerated but it's really hard to say what would have happened. And it would vary between developers. I'm sure SE for example would have been fine if FFXIII remained exclusive. Likewise, if RE5 had been exclusive. I think the smaller ones though fit more into your example of having serious financial issues.
Apophis2036
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You really need to go back and look at the Wii launch.
It took them 9 months after launch for Metroid, 12 months for 3D Mario, 16 months for Smash Bros, 17 months for Mario Kart and 5 years for Zelda...
Did you really expect them to come on stage in June at E3 and say those 5 games were all launch games because if so you need to get a grip of reality.
Those massive IP's will be being kept for strategic times, i.e. the times where at big trade shows they need something big to take the attention from Sony / MS and their new consoles.
I would take a guess that we will get Mario Kart U in the third quarter of 2013 with another two big first party IP's in Winter 2013 (Smash Bros and Starfox / F Zero).
I wouldn't expect a new 3D Mario, Zelda, Metroid and whatever Retro are working on (if it's a new IP) until mid / late 2014 at the earliest.
Apophis2036
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Didn't a video leak of a FF15 trailer just before or after E3 with 'available for PS3 and Wii U' at the end and people speculating that they had changed Vs 13 into FF 15 ?.
I take it FF13 didn't sell at all well on the 360.
The problem was that this cycle saw a huge boom in the western developed action game realm so that caused the Japanese devs to chase after that as well. The 360 launching with Oblivion and Halo being huge and stuff really set the tone for the rest of this generation.
That crappy fake thing filmed in a University classroom?
Shikamaru Ninja
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The game is for the masses as much as any Mario Kart, or NSMB is. In some ways closer to Smash Brothers. For novice and enthusiast. Just them adding Metroid, Game & Watch, F-Zero, and Takamaru is clear indication of them appealing to the old enthusiast Nintendo gamer.
I was thinking the same thing before E3.
I think it would be a good idea, to release it on a current gen console alongside a last gen console. You know, when the game is released in 2015. Releasing it exclusively on PS3 at that time might hurt its sales.
But it ain't happening.
so mario kart is not fun because its for the masses? dude, whats wrong with you?
Call me an optimist, but I highly doubt it will be 2014 before we see any of Nintendo's major franchises on the system. The rumor is that Retro has been making whatever they've been making since even before DKC-R's development was completed. While that could certainly be bullshit, I find it hard to believe that they didn't have something else on the back burner during that time. There's no way it would take all of Retro 2+ years to make DKC-R, when it took them less time than that to design Metroid Prime 2: Echoes, a pretty massive game that had to require a lot more resources and careful crafting than DKC-R.
Of course, this is all for not if Retro is working on a new IP, which I doubt. But would be more than happy if they were. But I'd still prefer a Metroid Prime-ish game from them, it being my favorite gaming franchise and all...
Of course, this is all for not if Retro is working on a new IP, which I doubt. But would be more than happy if they were. But I'd still prefer a Metroid Prime-ish game from them, it being my favorite gaming franchise and all...
Brother...it seems you have been deeply wounded by the big N. I'm talking some DEEP wounds here.
Forgive. Woooo-saaaaaa. Maybe Nintendo might surprise you...
...i hope...
Apophis2036
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I think if Retro aren't working on a new IP then it's Starfox or F Zero.
Nintendo prob think they need something fresh to work on so i can't see them working on yet another Metroid FPS.
A Retro Starfox could and prob would be amazing !.
Spieler Eins
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It's irrelevant if Nintendoland is fun in the big picture. Wii Sports was also fun, but people would have also shit on that one back at its reveal if it had been in the same vein of this year. Nintendo would have shown up with their new console that got nothing but Red Steel and one-year old Xbox ports from 3rd parties, while bringing nothing but Super Paper Mario, Wii Play and Wii Music from the 1st party front until they close off the presentation with 15 minutes of some dude telling you how ingenious the tennis minigame is. But back then they thankfully still knew how to start a new generation. (Hell, a 20 minute 3DS reveal was more exciting than 2 shoddy WiiU E3s)
Unlike the common belief, Nintendo does more than Mario/Zelda/Metroid. What I got from them within the first Wii year was not only these ,,big'' three, but also Excite Truck, Paper Mario, Fire Emblem, Battalion Wars 2, proper Warioware. A glimpse of Disaster. Hence I was also eager to try out something like Wii Sports.
All we know about the WiiU is that games of interest to Nintendofans (like me) until next E3 are Pikmin and 2D Mario, which some might be already fed up with (rightfully so). And while Nintendo didn't have everything ready in this ridiculous launch window term for the Wii, we at least knew for certain what we can expect from the console. That's not possible for the WiiU, from what I gathered all that is argued goes practically ,,We know the studios will eventually make something!! I bet the next Direct will have the games, IM SURE!!'' Fuck that, seriously.
Not sure about the 3rd parties, but right now they look terrible for the WiiU and I even remember those slightly better for the Wii. In the timeframe after the final E3 we also already got teasers for No More Heroes etc (could be wrong though). Announcements for the WiiU ever since the ,,re-reveal'' were downloadable titles and shovelware from WB.
Unlike the common belief, Nintendo does more than Mario/Zelda/Metroid. What I got from them within the first Wii year was not only these ,,big'' three, but also Excite Truck, Paper Mario, Fire Emblem, Battalion Wars 2, proper Warioware. A glimpse of Disaster. Hence I was also eager to try out something like Wii Sports.
All we know about the WiiU is that games of interest to Nintendofans (like me) until next E3 are Pikmin and 2D Mario, which some might be already fed up with (rightfully so). And while Nintendo didn't have everything ready in this ridiculous launch window term for the Wii, we at least knew for certain what we can expect from the console. That's not possible for the WiiU, from what I gathered all that is argued goes practically ,,We know the studios will eventually make something!! I bet the next Direct will have the games, IM SURE!!'' Fuck that, seriously.
Not sure about the 3rd parties, but right now they look terrible for the WiiU and I even remember those slightly better for the Wii. In the timeframe after the final E3 we also already got teasers for No More Heroes etc (could be wrong though). Announcements for the WiiU ever since the ,,re-reveal'' were downloadable titles and shovelware from WB.
yup, 8 days can be such a hell.
Edit: and we know they are doing something. atleast retro, ead and monolith are doing something. no "will eventually doing something." so calm the fuck down, its getting annoying
Apophis2036
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And this time you are getting Nintendo Land, Pikmin 3, NSMB U, Warioware, Zombi U, P-100, Rayman Legends, Rabbids Land, Lego City and ports of four of the biggest winter 2012 multi platform games (AC3, BO 2, Fifa 13, Madden 13), along with older HD multi platform games people might have missed or not picked up yet like ME3, Batman AC, Ninja Gaiden 3 and Darksiders 2.
Then there are the casual / shovelware games like Wii Fit U, Just Dance 4, Sing and even more ports of current multi platform games like Sonic Racing 2 ect.
An unreal launch with the most diverse and varied line up of games i have ever seen.
It seems some people will never be happy and are just greedy...
If the console and it's launch games are not interesting to you then guess what ?, don't buy it and wait for games you do find interesting instead of continually bringing the mood down in here with your crying and apparent trolling.
lordfroakie
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Here is something interesting, Nintendo retrademark Wave Race 
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