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Halo |OT12| Last One Out, Get the Lights
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CreateNowSleepLater
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Great list, I added a few of my own.
User 73932
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Go to bed, bk.
xxxstylzxxx
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In your opinion.
Not going to dispute that the game has some glaring issues (which have been pointed out in great detail on numerous.....numerous occasions especially as of late) that hopefully will be addressed in the coming months. However, plenty of people, including a long time Halo fan such as myself, are still enjoying the hell out of it for many legitimate reasons. I understand the level of frustration that many have experienced but at it's core it's still Halo and from a gameplay standpoint it's infinitely better, even in it's current form, than Reach will ever be.
And if MLG Dallas is any indication, Halo is hardly dead and will thrive competitively within the pro circuit for a long time to come. Hell I had more fun watching out of the box Halo 4 at their last event than I ever did Reach.
So I'm sorry that you and others have had some less than satisfactory experiences with the game (yeah I know....."that's an understatement rofl") but please understand that a significant portion of the community, both casual and competitive alike, don't necessarily share the same views when it pertains to what Halo was, is now or should be in the months/years to come. And we really don't appreciate being disparaged as a result of that fact.
note: That last part is not really aimed at you specifically, just making a general statement about the current dialogue existing within this thread.
Steelyuhas
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Your opinions suck.
NullPointer
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This game is awesome. I'm having fun with it anyway.
And I'm not sure if people are being serious asking 343 to ditch some of the major changes they made for their first game here. This was never supposed to be the Halo we knew - it was supposed to be a new take and a new approach.
This thread, man.
And I'm not sure if people are being serious asking 343 to ditch some of the major changes they made for their first game here. This was never supposed to be the Halo we knew - it was supposed to be a new take and a new approach.
So, eulogies then? Well, can't say you're not in the right company.
This thread, man.
aries_71
Junior Member
What's the problem with instant respawns? I'm sure there's some purist view on the issue, but come on, I want to play the game, not stare at countdown screen.
lol
It's the next logical step in modern game design. Totally won't ignore map flow.
I wish I was having as much fun as well. (Actually, I am, but that's because I've been playing Skyrim.)
Thing is, the longer I go without playing, the less I feel like I have a Halo itch that needs scratching. Which as clear a signal as can be that I'm moving on from the game, and probably series. Even with Reach, there was something for me to latch onto (dat feedback loop in Firefight/Campaign....). Halo 4 just doesn't have a gameplay hook that draws me back, and I feel like I've gotten about as much out it as I'm going to.
(Wrapping up Spartan Ops aside.)
My service record shows 3:29:00 for campaign on Heroic...
I should never be able to die, respawn, and finish off my own kill before his shields have even started to recharge. Ever. You're talking about a game with a significant recovery time for damaged players, where people can spawn with a weapon that crossmaps with ease. I should never, ever be able to get a double kill, die, respawn, and then get the triple.
Respawn timers help to dictate the pace of the game. It's a drummer in the band, without it you get chaos. Before, he had a drummer pal named Weapon Spawn Timers that chimed in with the triangle a few times per match to help out, but he died. In objective games, where their effect is most obvious, the currently-glitched instant respawns mean that the pace of the match is totally destroyed, you can't get that Overkill, tell your team, and then reliably make a push for the objective because the enemy team you took out are already respawning by the time you tell them.
NullPointer
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Funny, Killcams don't bug me at all. Instant respawn doesn't bug me at all.
Ordnance bugs the crap out of me, though
Auto ball/flag pickup bugs me too. In some firefights, you're forced in close for carrier protection. If they die, you should not be penalized by losing your primary and being confused by the harsh auto-transition.
Flinch doesn't bug me, either.
Happens semi frequently with lag.
NullPointer
Member
You sure it recorded all the missions?
Steelyuhas
Member
You'll have 8 specializations to pick from by the end of the month.
It should be readily apparent to anyone who has played a Halo title why instant spawns could be detrimental to gameplay. Thankfully, Havok outlined the reasons perfectly.
I lost count of the number of times I got revenge with a single DMR headshot.
FUNKNOWN iXi
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What the bitch? There was a way to fix that?? Just figured it would be released later..
Positive thoughts time:
Dominion is really good. Really fun mode, one of those things that people probably didn't know they wanted until it showed up kind of things, maps work well with it like Exile and Longbow. Plays kind of like a quasi-RTS. Lots of bells and whistles to play with in Forge (also gave use Turrets.. which is something we've needed for a while now in Forge). It's Objective but doesn't overly beat you over the head with it's Objectiveness. It's easier for newbies to wrap their head around than Invasion.
This gametype should have been more featured and crowed about more, because it's just really well done and fun as hell.
Salty thoughts time:
Spartan Ops finally started picking up, although I'm a bit miffed at where Reach was thrown under the bus in vidocs and interviews for having spaces appear in both MP and campaign, and now 343 does the same thing. Valhalla was neat "oh, the crashed pelican is now part of the canon" but I'm not going to pay for a supposed second season of Spartan Ops if I'm just paying to play my maps or DLC in a different way. Right now it feels like I'm playing someone's custom Forge variant of MP/Campaign spaces, and I wonder why we don't have these tools and why they just didn't keep Firefight alongside Spartan Ops and let us play FF in both Campaign locales and on MP maps (like Gears Horde) because it's clear we're probably going to be visiting Adrift, etc in SPOPSs now, so these spaces have been rigged for AI navigation.. kind of like the annoyance that Crater was in Reach but not in Firefight.
Dominion is really good. Really fun mode, one of those things that people probably didn't know they wanted until it showed up kind of things, maps work well with it like Exile and Longbow. Plays kind of like a quasi-RTS. Lots of bells and whistles to play with in Forge (also gave use Turrets.. which is something we've needed for a while now in Forge). It's Objective but doesn't overly beat you over the head with it's Objectiveness. It's easier for newbies to wrap their head around than Invasion.
This gametype should have been more featured and crowed about more, because it's just really well done and fun as hell.
Salty thoughts time:
Spartan Ops finally started picking up, although I'm a bit miffed at where Reach was thrown under the bus in vidocs and interviews for having spaces appear in both MP and campaign, and now 343 does the same thing. Valhalla was neat "oh, the crashed pelican is now part of the canon" but I'm not going to pay for a supposed second season of Spartan Ops if I'm just paying to play my maps or DLC in a different way. Right now it feels like I'm playing someone's custom Forge variant of MP/Campaign spaces, and I wonder why we don't have these tools and why they just didn't keep Firefight alongside Spartan Ops and let us play FF in both Campaign locales and on MP maps (like Gears Horde) because it's clear we're probably going to be visiting Adrift, etc in SPOPSs now, so these spaces have been rigged for AI navigation.. kind of like the annoyance that Crater was in Reach but not in Firefight.
NullPointer
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In objective games, sure. I'd definitely agree with you there. As I play a lot of BTB slayer I haven't personally seen this happen.
SatansReverence
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In a game where it usually takes 7-8 seconds to recover from a fight, respawning instantly and having sprint makes it so you can kill someone and they can kill you before you even have a chance to recover.
In games like CoD, Battlefield and SWAT it's fine because the kill time is the same as the spawn time. If you're paying attention and if you're good, instant spawn doesn't really negatively effect the game but when you've got shields that drastically affect you're ability to fight, instant spawn simply does not belong.
No Beta required.
Gotta love the number of carry over glitches from Reach
Shit. Well WK or OP?
After you have gone through all 130, what will your Title be? The last Specialization, or will it go back to Spartan IV, or can you pick?
Says 8 completed, dunno if it recorded all of the time, I was definitely connected to Live the whole time.
Also, Oddball & KOTH need respawn times like CTF, c'mon man. Simple stuff.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
If I only had those to chose from, wetwork would clearly win.
The difference operator makes is negligible afaik.
Wetwork makes your footsteps completely silent and makes PV practically useless because you can't be seen through walls (tested).
DR or MD.
RebornYeti
Member
Huh, I was under the impression it'd say "Poopsock"
Steelyuhas
Member
Oddball and KOTH have never had 10 second respawns in Halo, always been the same as slayer.
That said, they should have 3 second spawns instead of instant.
FUNKNOWN iXi
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Completely agree with everything except the bolded. Dominion is really fun because there are different ways to play it to contribute to the team in a healthy way, but damn do I think it's pretty messy for a first timer who hasn't played that kind of gametype. Invasion was much simpler IMO, both very fun too.
And I especially agree with the underlined because it was shocking to see in a BTS several 343 employees comment on that as if that's what Bungie did with Reach.. basically perpetuating the misconception people have about that in an official video.
BTB Slayer is the only Playlist I currently find it acceptable and actually kind of necessary as long as the spawn placements are proper.
Trueskill has been very good for me until this game. The only time i've gotten bad teammates and it was not a fun experience. I was also the last kill for the other team (literally got quadruple teamed) so I had to sit through them tea bagging me post game for about 20 seconds and a lot of shit talk.
I didn't mean 10 second respawns, but there has to be more penalty than there currently is. Too many times I've killed 3-4 of the other team to only have it benefit them because they instantly spawn next to the hill/ball, so stupid.
I think it's a bug.
Can we get a 'Vote to Boot' feature in SpOps matchmaking?
Just quit out of a game, One dude kept splatting me in a ghost, then all 3 joined to griefing me during the mantis segment.
If one dude is splatting the other three, it'd be cool to kick him.
While it wouldn't solve the 3 v 1 grief, it'd be nice to get those pesky "i want to fuck shit up' randoms out of games.
Just quit out of a game, One dude kept splatting me in a ghost, then all 3 joined to griefing me during the mantis segment.
If one dude is splatting the other three, it'd be cool to kick him.
While it wouldn't solve the 3 v 1 grief, it'd be nice to get those pesky "i want to fuck shit up' randoms out of games.
Just won a game of regicide in the last second. Only 30 seconds of king time. Thats how you get it done. Bring Back FFA
Can someone render this cl-? Nevermind I filmed it off screen. 2012,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WbhodRVyDE&feature=youtu.be
Can someone render this cl-? Nevermind I filmed it off screen. 2012,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WbhodRVyDE&feature=youtu.be
I'd go back to Reach myself if I hadn't traded it for Halo 4.
Also, people are climbing on top of Abandon now, as if that map wasn't shitty enough. Top center structure can be scaled with a few jumps.
StalkerUKCG
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