Wonder how much they have spent marketing this game.
ah yeah. lol. Likely to be bundles I guess.
France numbers seem ok for this price-point like I expected, not Wii-level, but anyway.
Google Translate says that it sold 45.000 in the first weekend and 65.000 in the following week (that's LTD of 110.000 units).
The wording isn't precise, it could be 65k total. I think DrWong asked them on twitter though, we shall know soon enough.
If it is 110k total then it's pretty good but I'm not sure that is the case.
That sounds pretty fishy. Probably it means 65k in it's first two weeks.
How did Wii debut in France?
It sounds more like that from my rusty French... are there native French speakers to translate?
COD Vita. Still pretty dead.
It's 45k first week and 65k by the end of the second week, not 65k in the second week.
Them COD on Vita TV adverts get lots of airplay in the UK. Sony really did think this would be a game changer.
If so it should be outselling the Wii U this week, that's got to count for something.
I'm thinking SCE, at this point, would be prepared to throw anything at the wall in the hope that something sticks. After all, it is in the run-up to Xmas and the busiest shopping period of the year.
Don't they show the PSV swivelling in view of the PS3 though? Marketing both devices in one ad?
ah yeah. lol. Likely to be bundles I guess.
Was there a sale last week or something? It didn't even chart the previous week yet rose to 31 the next week.
Quite a lot I imagine, I'm seeing adverts very frequently across multiple channels.
Was there a sale last week or something? It didn't even chart the previous week yet rose to 31 the next week.
WiiU looks plenty fucked. Either Nintendo will slash the price savagely, or give up on the UK market and maybe even Europe entirely.
WiiU looks plenty fucked. Either Nintendo will slash the price savagely, or give up on the UK market and maybe even Europe entirely.
Got an answer from the journalist: it's 65K Wii U sold in total.
Dont be silly, people are reading way too much into games charting. Selective memory its was the same the start of last gen and will be the same when the next ones launch current gen games will push new gen games out of the charts for sometime because of the install base.
So we probably have 300.000 Wii U's across whole Europe by now.Got an answer from the journalist: it's 65K Wii U sold in total.
It's not like that the first two weeks are the definitive answer from the mainstream market, this thing is going to be several years on the market and I suppose that Nintendo won't just let it die.One thing is for certain, the casuals don't seem to care about this one at all. I've seen next to no mainstream buzz about it, certainly nothing close to what the Wii had.
I guess they might have to hope that the hardcore can sustain them again, a la Gamecube.
We're not daft enough to buy duff hardware with anaemic release schedules.
So I suppose the brilliance of the UK shines in its recent economic performance... oh wait.
Ah ah! Brilliant analysis...
It's not like that the first two weeks are the definitive answer from the mainstream market, this thing is going to be several years on the market and I suppose that Nintendo won't just let it die.
Yes it's just as brilliant as Japan's for the last 20 years... Oh wait.
So we probably have 300.000 Wii U's across whole Europe by now.
The UK? I honestly don't know. You tell me.
The UK? I honestly don't know. You tell me.
The funny part is that the average Japanese household has tons of buying power. They just don't exercise it out of frugality.
The UK? I honestly don't know. You tell me.
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BOOK OF SPELLS - SONY COMPUTER ENT.
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LITTLEBIGPLANET KARTING - SONY COMPUTER ENT.
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NINTENDO LAND - NINTENDO
Not definitive, no, but you can't artificially replicate the sheer power of basically every media outlet in the country discussing your product at length.
The Wii had so much coverage at launch that almost everyone (that wasn't in a cave) at least knew it existed. You'd be hard pressed to find people that know much about the Wii U at all unless they're a hardcore gamer or happen to watch one of the few channels where Nintendo advertised.
How so?So we probably have 300.000 Wii U's across whole Europe by now.
The french article mentions that the Wii managed this much in it's first two days in Europe.
The funny part is that the average Japanese household has tons of buying power. They just don't exercise it out of frugality.
The UK? I honestly don't know. You tell me.
I will Mr Winky Face. The UK market is purchasing Wonderbook bundles above Nintendoland bundles, and then also spending most Christmas bux on cutting edge smartphones and tablets because theyre the new shiny must have tech. Nintendo failed to realise they werent just falling behind and dropping out of the tech war in the living room with Microsoft and Sony, but now also Apple, Asus/Google, and Samsung.
Yeah, we're just spending it all on Wonderbooks and iPads.
It does but not normally so much. Usually like 2-3% ala Halo.
I didn't say they will or even necessarily should do something this early, just that the situation wont improve until they do. And whilst the UK market might not be brilliant atm it certainly isn't in such dire straits that the Wii U it explains or excuses the Wii Us performance there.
The launch in the UK has been below all expectations. Not by a little, by a country mile and then some.
I kinda doubt a majority of people are that informed.
Well, it's barely being stocked by the biggest gaming retailers in the country (only select branches). That is problematic and either they don't want to give a new console a nationwide roll-out or Nintendo has decided to prioritise the likes of Game, HMV & online retailers over them. Which would be puzzling to say the least.
Sounds more to me like the UK gaming market is going places the industry doesn't want to.
economic situation in the UK being better than Germany? OK.Buying power in the UK is the third highest in the world of the large economies, after the US and Japan.
The failure of the Wii U is not to do with the poor economic conditions, it is all to do with it being an undesirable product. The UK has the largest consumer market in the EU despite having a population 20m smaller than Germany, the most populous country in the EU. We have a trade deficit with the EU of £30bn per year because we are the biggest consumers of goods.
If people are trying to pin the failure of the Wii U on the economy, then they need to explain how other premium products (iPad, Nexus 4, 10, Sony's £20k 84" TV is sold out before release) are checking in record sales and why stores like John Lewis are experiencing 10% year on year revenue growth in their premium products. The two are mutually exclusive, either the economy is shit and sales are down across the board, or it's the Wii U that's shit and no one wants one. All of the evidence points to the latter, at least in the UK.
you don't need a titanic neogaf post count to see the bead of cold sweat fall from the salesperson's brow when you ask why you should buy your little ernie this thing when he's already got an xbox.
"pikmin? is that the new halo game?"
Oh I'm sorry, what is the reality then? That this is absolutely fine in the strongest shopping season of the year and Nintendoland, the bundled game is about to seemingly exit the chart? That Pikmin 3 is going to drive sales skyward, or a Platinum Games new IP? Realistically you've got E3 in June, and I doubt they're ready to Sega Saturn a new 3D big main Mario or Zelda right after, and I dont think people are going to be falling over themselves for Wii Fit U when those people can already derive all thats needed from their dusty closet Wii's already. This looks to be far worse than the 3DS and that got a price slash, so... ?
I don't think that's the case at all. I think that the consoles we have are long in the tooth and the ones we want aren't out yet. When the next gen consoles hit, wallets will fall open.What you two have mentioned goes on in every other country in the developed world. They just happen to buy Wii Us as well.
Sounds more to me like the UK gaming market is going places the industry doesn't want it to.
Well, it's barely being stocked by the biggest gaming retailers in the country (only select branches). That is problematic and either they don't want to give a new console a nationwide roll-out or Nintendo has decided to prioritise the likes of Game, HMV & online retailers over them. Which would be puzzling to say the least.
economic situation in the UK being better than Germany? OK.
Too soon to state defintive sentences as yours. I mean, it's ok as an opinion/feeling but not as an analysis. Remember it took 2 month for 360 to reach 100K in France (or it "only" did 35K for the same launch period). These partial launch datas doesn't say anything for the future, just for the present. It's not the Wii all over again. OK.
Well, it's barely being stocked by the biggest gaming retailers in the country (only select branches). That is problematic and either they don't want to give a new console a nationwide roll-out or Nintendo has decided to prioritise the likes of Game, HMV & online retailers over them. Which would be puzzling to say the least.
economic situation in the UK being better than Germany? OK.
I assume by "industry" you mean "the people that make those Mario games" and not the entire rest of that thar chart, fellah. Because I sure as shit don't see devs all around the world plunging their fists into the tight orifice that is WiiU development. UK market is still going to want their COD, Assassins Creed, Forza, Halo, and so on, and theyre going to get that in the next gen boxes set to trundle along late next year, early 14.
Too soon to state defintive sentences like yours. I mean, it's ok as an opinion/feeling but not as an analysis. Remember it took 2 month for 360 to reach 100K in France (or it "only" did 35K for the same launch period). These partial launch datas doesn't say anything for the future, just for the present. It's not the Wii all over again. OK.
Reading this makes me feel like I've been flung back to the NES/SNES era, when the UK wasn't so enthusiastic about Nintendo. And we all know how awful those two platforms turned out to be.
But okay. I see your point. The UK has smarter, more trendy consumers than other places by rejecting the Wii U and Nintendo as a brand.