Majukun
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people want good games...shocking
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Bayonetta 2 and Wonderful 101 to stay as Wii U Exclusives
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people want good games...shocking
Glass Rebel
Member
Glass Rebel
Member
Why would Nintendo do that?
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Why hasn't Gears of War Trilogy come to PS3? Why hasn't Shadow Complex come to PSN? Why hasn't Heavy Rain come to 360?
Because they totally can going by your logic.
Iwata is a spy sent in by Sony. Miyamoto is a robot built by Ballmer running on Milo's technology. It all makes sense.
Hey don't look at me I bought all the games you listed and more.
And I'm still salty over Conduit (it's better than your yearly CoD though)
The development team, not the publisher.
Chet Rippo
Member
These people should watch Mitsudomoe and get back to me.
So they can cancel it again?
Glass Rebel
Member
Take every letter in MILO, rearrange them so it reads MLIO, read it as if you were Japanese, like MRIO.
What letter is missing?
Your reaction:
"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!"
Boom.
And then?
They're working for free?
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
You're still not going to touch me.
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
Platinum doesn't own Bayo and probably tw101 either.
And who say it wont? Epic controls the gears IP and have said it many time its up to them whatever they want to do with it when it comes to gears. Difference here is that sega who is neither the dev/publisher owns the IP. Unlike epic who is the ip holder and the developer. Regardless.
I am not saying it WILL HAPPEN. I am saying it could happen. Like it has in past and could in future.
My reply was to people who are saying because its pub/funded that it has 0 chance. As long as Sega owns the IP. And none of us knows what the contractual was between sega and nintendo, then no one can say it one way or the other from information provided.
Thats my sentiment. Wonderful 101 sounds interesting enough to get a wii-U over but I was never remotely interested in bayonetta. The fact that the PS blog promoted the digital release last week was disgraceful.
Platinum should have ported that game themselves.
Maybe if I eventually get a cheap 360 I will try it out, or hopefully sega tries to capitalize on the opportunity and release bayonetta on wii-U. Would give me a reason to purchase the system.
Either way, I'm against moving the direct sequel of multiplatform games to console exclusive. I'm always happy when something like Dark Souls moved out of the shadow of the PS3 onto the PC and 360, but for the complete reversal to happen is stupid.
Sega could have easily funded the development. They purchased relic for $28 million but chose not to fund Platinum games? Unbelievable.
I mean it may sound reasonable enough if Sega just didn't see it as a profitable venture but surely it would have been enough to break-even; and I still question why they chose not to publish it themselves.
I could understand if they lost money on the first release of bayonetta though, but it sounds like Nintendo asked Sega and Platinum just to pick up a console exclusive and to STIR UP CONTROVERSY OVER THE INTERNET so that the wii-U stands out more to the hardcore.
I am confident it will be a critical success, but the question is: Will it sell?
JoshuaJSlone
Member
If Bayonetta didn't do well enough that Sega was willing to go forward with a sequel on its own, and Bayonetta 2 also doesn't do very well, it might be hard to find a publisher to fund another game that's like Bayonetta but isn't.
Sega is one of the publishers who actively profit off of RTS games, particularly with the successful Total War series. The acquisition was purely in their favor, as opposed to games they made with Platinum, all of which underperformed or practically bombed. Relic makes sense for them long term, Bayonetta 2 doesn't.
There will never be a Mitsudomoe S3 for them to cancel.
EdwardTivrusky
Member
Yes, SEGA seem to be doing pretty well on PC these days. They are sure keeping many of the PC gamers happy with their treatment of PC studios and IPs.
Not sure what went on with Bayonetta. Aside from some framerate issues at launch it was a solid game wasn't it? Crazy as all hell but that's a good thing too.
The Wii happened.
Also the Wii U isn't looking all that hot either, especially with new consoles around the corner.
Considering what we know of Sega, that will never happen.
You have a bigger chance of seeing MGS make a decent killer instinct sequel released the same day as a decent Banjo Kazooie sequel with Conker to boot.
Or a new Mana game from Square Enix.
Wonderful 101 is a Nintendo-owned IP, so there's 0 chance that gets ported as long as Nintendo is still releasing new Hardware.
The question with Bayonetta 2 is 1) how long Nintendo holds the publishing rights and 2) do they own the code to the finished game or does Sega?
I would suspect that since they're paying for Platnium to actually make the game that they'd own the rights to the code and not Sega. I would also suspect that they would have negotiated an agreement with Sega that would cover future digital distribution and may even have an option for Nintendo to buy the IP outright if they want.
The question with Bayonetta 2 is 1) how long Nintendo holds the publishing rights and 2) do they own the code to the finished game or does Sega?
I would suspect that since they're paying for Platnium to actually make the game that they'd own the rights to the code and not Sega. I would also suspect that they would have negotiated an agreement with Sega that would cover future digital distribution and may even have an option for Nintendo to buy the IP outright if they want.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
He's obvious bait-and-leave poster.
If 101 is released soon with enough Nintendo backing behind it, it's probably going to be a rather good long-term seller. The IP technically belongs to Nintendo so I'm expecting them to treat it as such, especially after the Nintendo Direct where Iwata seemed perfectly aware that a lot of people were wanting to know more of it.
Bayonetta 2 is arguable though. We'll have to see how that turns out once E3 rolls around.
Sega reps made it perfectly clear that they have little to no involvement in the game and that it's pretty much a "Nintendo game", they don't really know anything what goes on with it. I doubt they have the code.
I feel the same. I'm more interested in seeing if there will ever be a Bayonetta 3, which lies solely on how well B2 sells to the Wii U base. If Bayonetta couldn't find enough support to sustain it on two mainstream platforms, then I have reservations about it's success on one platform. Hopefully the deal works in Platinum's favor.
Diablo Rosso
Member
Ninja Gaiden 2 was published by Microsoft.
B2 deserves t6o be a Wii-U exclusive. Hopefully the game will get the attention it deserves.
B1 got great critical reception but was marred and drowned by the launch problems of PS3 version of the game.
The only way this game would get Sony fanlove at this point is if it was a PS3 exclusive.
I'm hoping for success as we need more games like this coming out of Japan.
B1 got great critical reception but was marred and drowned by the launch problems of PS3 version of the game.
The only way this game would get Sony fanlove at this point is if it was a PS3 exclusive.
I'm hoping for success as we need more games like this coming out of Japan.
Can't wait to ditch my 350 dollar console in its first year and buy its sucessor!!!!!
Zen_Arcade
Banned
Ninja Gaiden was never published by Microsoft.
EDIT: Just saw you probably meant Gaiden II. I don't know anything about Gaiden II.
Untrue. Plenty of us played Bayonetta on PS3, which is perfectly playable. The PS3 version is several notches below the 360 original, but honestly, performance wise it's still up to par with games like Dante's Inferno, Castlevania Lords of Shadow, or Darksiders. It's just not up to par with the beautiful 360 version. Platinum games don't need to be exclusive to get love.
I don't think people have faith in these as system sellers, where did you get that impression? Platinum fans are happy Platinum is making games, that is all.
yeah anti Nintendo sentiment started with the Wii for sure...
^This post.
Interested enough to post about it in this thread. You know how I deal with things other people care about that I don't? I ignore them...
GameCenterXDS
Member
Yeah I've never understood the whole thing with people coming into a thread about a game they supposedly are not interested in and posting things like this. They're basically admitting some slight interest and attention towards the game by even coming into its thread.
Wat, explain yourself...
They've always been there.
What's infuriating is that in a few years Wii will be looked again fondly and I'll be left wondering where the hell these people were when it was being ripped a new one.
It's still the only console that can play La Mulana after all.
So guys, what about Wipeout 64?
They could. Epic has never seemed overly interested in the PS3 though.
Well that one no, Sony (co)owns the IP.
He says "It's exclusive to Nintendo because it's published by Nintendo".
Not "because Nintendo owns it".
People really don't seem to understand the difference.
The only possibilities where MS got money out of EA are:
1) EA wanted to publish it on the 360 as well (that'd be stupid)
2) MS had the rights to publish on any platform, which is rather unlikely.
They could. Epic has never seemed overly interested in the PS3 though.
Well that one no, Sony (co)owns the IP.
He says "It's exclusive to Nintendo because it's published by Nintendo".
Not "because Nintendo owns it".
People really don't seem to understand the difference.
The only possibilities where MS got money out of EA are:
1) EA wanted to publish it on the 360 as well (that'd be stupid)
2) MS had the rights to publish on any platform, which is rather unlikely.
Screamapillar
Member
He was being sarcastic. He's passing the buck to Nintendo since they're the ones who deal with the business end of things about the games. But there is no chance of those two games going multi-platform. They are funded entirely by Nintendo. That would be like 343 Studios telling someone to ask Microsoft why Halo isn't coming to PS3 or Wii U.
Ninja Gaiden 2 is an interesting one, it was published by MS on the 360 for a year, then publishing went to Tecmo, then the port happened. I think MS always had the distribution deal for NG2 on 360 though, even after the publishing deal changed.
V
Vilix
Unconfirmed Member
A cry for attention, you got it.
And another one.
Both of you know how the/those game/s are appreciated and loved by a good portion of gamers. Why act like idiots?