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I'm at a Japanese wedding and see this....
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Twilight Gap
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lmao this thread
Glorious_Paradox
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"Golden niggas" is one of the funniest things I've ever read on GAF 
Pic unrelated:
The gushers comment, oh my god. I can't breathe.
EmCeeGramr
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shanshan310
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You know what it means. Awful counter example.
chicagocubsfan
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Yep that's racist. Don't understand the people saying that the Japanese can't be racist.
Twilight Gap
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10/10
Kite
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shanshan310
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No one is saying that. Some Japanese people have awful opinions of Korean, Chinese and American people in particular. Is this awful? Yes. It is hateful and harking back to the days of mistral shows and black face? Uh, no.
I agree. Its all perspective. And for a group of people asking Japanese people to think about black face, something they have probably never heard of, most people in this thread are being amazingly unemphatic.
Alligatorjandro
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It may not be malicious but it is ignorant and racist.
Absolutely. Someone doesn't have to know what they're doing is wrong, or mean anything hateful by it to be racist. It's also a sign that a country is too isolated and ignorant of the modern reality where their own country is becoming multicultural and the whole world is melting together.
Agreed, I don't get why this is difficult for some to understand.
Once again the closet racist Kite comes in trying to make a counter argument based on something that has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
Were those people trying to make a caricature of black people, Kite? I think you already know the answer to this, since you've used that same example before and have been shut down on its absurdity numerous times.
What's the difference between the old days minstrel and that japanese minstrel?
Exactly. There is no difference. Back in the day white people justified it with ignorance and now it's different because Japanese are doing the same? Fuck no its not. They have no excuse. It's 2013 and they're a developed nation ffs.
Never go full blackface, man.
I missed the first 20 minutes of that movie and didn't realize he was wearing blackface until he washed it off at the end
Are they supposed to be from Homestuck? I don't know the first thing about it, but I always see people with black/dark blue skin and candy corn looking horns at anime conventions and know it's from something called Homestuck. They're not usually naked though (which is good because it's mostly 14 year old girls).
The world scares me sometimes.
The world scares me sometimes.
By defintion a caricature exagerates the physical and psychological traits of the person being cartoonized. Said physical traits are often linked to race. Ergo every caricature is racist?
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RACISM
Zoramon089
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By defintion a caricature exagerates the physical and psychological traits of the person being cartoonized. Said physical traits are often linked to race. Ergo every caricature is racist?
Also, yet another pic related:
RACISM
Nice strawman, but no, caricatures aren't inherently racist. There is no bias behind a caricature. There is no malice or ill intent. It SIMPLY exaggerates the physical features of the INDIVIDUAL. It doesn't generalize those of a race.
That isn't to say a caricature can't be racist portrayals, such as if they seem to be obviously disconnected from the actual person's appearance and more in line with stereotypes of that person's race
And that picture is laughable. It's almost like you're just itching to start yelling "reverse racism!"
statham
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this is amazing.
By defintion a caricature exagerates the physical and psychological traits of the person being cartoonized. Said physical traits are often linked to race. Ergo every caricature is racist?
Also, yet another pic related:
RACISM
What argument are you even making? And why are you even quoting me?
I guess soccer fans in Europe throwing banana peels at black players isn't racist because they didn't have the same history with race as the US did.
CornBurrito
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Does Japan have a history of treating black people as slaves and then second class citizens?
Winterfang
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Miigro is now trending in Twitter.
Just kidding, can you imagine?
Zoramon089
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Kind of...especially if you're Nigerian
XANDER CAGE
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Devolution
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They got quite a bit of their racism from the West thanks to WWII segregation and racism in media portrayals. For whatever reason they haven't dropped a lot of the Sambo shit till this day.
Basically because there's about 10 black people in Japan. There's no outcry or push for social change because there simply aren't enough people to push the politics.
This likely won't change, either, for a long time. Given that it's nigh impossible hard for ANYONE non-Japanese, white or asian or black, to get into positions of influence...there simply is no reason for the media and social influencers to care.
That's kind of an inconsequential point though. Ignorance and racism is the same whether or not that particular country or culture has a past history of it.
CornBurrito
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He said there was "no difference" but there would be cultural differences that would lead to differences in how blackface is viewed.
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"Miigro" will be Merriam-Webster's #1 word of 2013. I know it's mine.
A slew of physical traits became an "offensive caricature" once some merely descriptive physical traits (the ones potrayed in the whole "blackface" sterotype) started to become associated to negative, judgamental ones (lack of intelligence, savagery, etc) by American racists, whilist in the rest of the world, they kept being just neutral - having afro hair or wide lips just meant that you were black, nothing else. This is projection at its finest.
It is not reverse racism, and that's precisely my point. Atributing a skill (or as in this case, its lack of thereof) to a race or culture is not racism. Non-negative sterotyping is not racism, albeit one can say that it is certainly a silly thing. And having a kick out of racial differences is not racism either. Saying "You look white / black / martian" shouldn't be a reason for offense. Racists wanted for us to link physical (racial) traits with negative qualities. In my humble opinion, the way to answer and nullify that is not to never point out or remark said physical traits, but rather to don't make the association between said traits and negative qualities. Looking like blackface doesn't makes you stupid, inferior nor loathsome.
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shanshan310
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There was hateful intent there and actual harassment of black players. Not only are most countries in Europe more understanding of foreign cultures than Japan, but depending on which country you are referring to (there are a lot of them, and they are all very different) they did have a history with segregation or slavery. Completely different situations.
You're right.
The problem is that people aren't being empathetic enough toward people who make someone else's race a joke with offensive caricaturing, and then turn toward the only person of that race in the room and ask them to dance and sing with the caricature.
You heartless BASTARDS! Why can't you understand where these poor people are coming from?
Japanese can be discriminatory and some do look down upon Chinese and the Koreans. There is also the issue of their own citizens like Okinawans and Japanese Untouchables, burakumins
TacticalFox88
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So on a semi-serious note, I can't be the only one who thinks Japan as a whole has a fascination/fetish for black people masked by unintentional racism, no?
Okay maybe not completely unintentional, but you get what I mean.
Okay maybe not completely unintentional, but you get what I mean.
BlazingDarkness
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The term 'black music' has been used for a long time.
lol. So basically Japan needs to have some sort of civil rights movement and black renaissance to let them know black people are people before we can officially call their bullshit racist and offensive? They can learn the bad stuff from the west but ignore how it's seen today so we give them a pass because they don't know any better even though those portrayals have been taboo for decades?
Lazlo Woodbine
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CornBurrito
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No. I don't think that is what Japan thinks of all black people. However, it does seem to be a caricature of real life existing cultures that just so happen to have people with extremely dark skin.
Gintoki313
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Why did this happen at a wedding, was the groom black or something?
I can't really call this racist unless they were deliberately poking fun at something. Also I'm African-American and don't find this racist because this is towards Africans and not African-Americans like me. So I don't know what to think.
I can't really call this racist unless they were deliberately poking fun at something. Also I'm African-American and don't find this racist because this is towards Africans and not African-Americans like me. So I don't know what to think.
huh?
I don't get it either man. I don't think they meant malice by it, but it's still offensive and racist. Ignorance doesn't excuse racism.
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