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Yakuza 1&2 HD Wii U fails to enter top 50 for first week in Japan
- Thread starter Jubern
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firehawk12
Subete no aware
Oh wow, I just remembered that Nintendo made a commercial specifically for Yakuza HD. I guess no one wanted it.
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
It was an experiment to see if the Yakuza franchise can sell on WiiU.
They wanted to see if there are some WiiU owners who are interested in the game but do not own a Ps3. If this would have been the case it would have made sense to release future installments on Ps3/4 and WiiU.
Turns out that everybody who wants to play the games already played them on Ps3.
So it doesn't make sense to release future installments on WiiU because the people who would buy it on WiiU would've bought it on Ps3 anyways if there wasn't a WiiU version. So a WiiU version wouldn't expand the market but only divide the existing market into two parts - one on Ps3 and one on WiiU.
Thats the reason why many western developers aren't supporting the WiiU.
The WiiU owners who are interested in their games buy it for other plattforms if there isn't a WiiU version. So why even bother with a WiiU version?
I suppose this negates the idea that Tales sells better on Nintendo platforms by virtue of them being Nintendo platforms. I would imagine that Symphonia 2 did pretty well the Wii (on par with Vesperia) because it was a sequel to the best selling game in the series by close to a factor of 5 (in North America).
That1BlackGuy
Member
Ouch.
Those numbers are beyond poor, but ultimately not surprising as many expected this. Nonetheless... Ouch.
Those numbers are beyond poor, but ultimately not surprising as many expected this. Nonetheless... Ouch.
That's not really what happened.
In the media create sales thread a known fanboy wrote a stupid post trying to justify the lack of WiiU sales that instantly became a classic (like the "I'm an expert" post). It's only forced to you because it's something related to your beloved Nintendo.
This is the post:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=71047806#post71047806
metalslimer
Member
Lol at the revisionism of what happened
Have some self respect
Pikmin bomba? How much was nintendo expecting to sell?
ab.aeterno
Member
It's all about scale, right? If a publisher makes $20-30 revenue per copy sold at $60, then you're looking at a high end of around 2 million in revenue. For large corporations, that has to pay salaries and expenses of the tens of people working on it, marketing, advertising, etc. it all adds up.
A game like Fez might be funded for that much because it used less advertising and only had two people working on it with minimal overhead.
I know as outsiders it can be hard for us to comprehend the amount of money games cost to make, but this brings flashbacks of that embarrassing thread on Skullgirls' cost.
i don't think it's revisionism. threads are hot when they discuss something where people have conflicting interests. they need to sizzle down before you can talk about stuff like that and someone made the mistake of getting in early.
the forced part is just how i interpret it. i don't even know what people mean when they say it because it's being used for literally everything, not even related to nintendo stuff
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
It was patently ridiculous spin. Thats why its become a meme. Not seeing that is forcing things in the opposite direction really. The loser of the generation always has classics plied from their respective forces, and this just happens to be one of them. I mean the added 'Pokemon Centres are even empty' side of it just sealed the deal putting it up there with 'shot in the foot/japanese honour expert'.
Smiles and Cries
Member
Sonic will save the Wii U not Yakuza people
Law Abiding Stranger
Banned
The notion of lower sales being caused by heatwave is so ridiculous it deserves all the exposure.
:lol
metalslimer
Member
Getting in early? It was one of the most desperate excuses ive ever seen and there have been bad ones on gaf, and yes you are letting your bias cloud how ridiculous that was. It waas ridiculous enough that it deserves to be a meme even if you think people are hurting feelings.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
This is really what it comes down to. Unless there's something that makes the Wii U version really stand out, and it comes out at the same time or earlier than other platforms, what's the point?
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
Yeah, claiming pikmin didn't sell because of a heatwave isn't forced. At all.
KillerTravis
Banned
It's a port. Of very old games. Released ages ago on other platforms as well.
I'm not really surprised by this flop.
I'm not really surprised by this flop.
well the dude even put a disclaimer on there so people wouldn't take it the wrong way and people took it the wrong way anyways.
Lol, dude has a name, but keep calling him Celebi, makes me chuckle out loud. Anyway on topic , gawd dayum! Some experiment lol.
metalslimer
Member
Basically i know im spouting completely illogical bullshit but dont attack me for it....., but you can believe what you want its not going away.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
"I'm not trying to spin, but heres some crazy spin" is, forgive semi-godwins law, the same sort of lead up behind "now I'm not racist but..." anecdotes. The person already knows theyre treading on thin ice, but here it comes regardless.
TheSeks never calls anything by its actual name.
It's not illogical. It makes actual sense. Anyone who is in the retail business can tell you that for specific kinds of retailers, business drops in one weather, and increases in another.
I was not using it to explain everything, I said it would have had an effect on it.
As I said, taking it to extremes
Saying "this isn't spin" doesn't give you the free pass to give the dumbest spin ever
You know what the hilarious thing about that is?
http://e.nikkei.com/e/fr/tnks/Nni20130715D15JF241.htm
http://e.nikkei.com/e/fr/tnks/Nni20130715D15JF241.htm
i can't even figure out what they were trying to experiment with. the wii u fanbases love for older titles? how receptive wii u owners are to yakuza titles? how new markets will react to recently re-released older titles on other platforms? there are so many different ways to look at this title that i don't even know what they could be going for,
metalslimer
Member
Yeah so while everything else didnt drop you used a heatwave to explain wiiu not rising as high. That makes completely logical sense....oh wait it doesnt. It was pure damage control at least own up to it
Actually I didn't see less people at electrical appliance store on that weekend than usual, but that is anecdotal evidence too
PdotMichael
Banned
Stop it!
The sales of the most systems increased in the same week - without any big releases.
This ^^
I was going to say something, then I realized it was you how made the original comment. heh
I was going to say something, then I realized it was you how made the original comment. heh
In your defence, I saw an awful lot of people saying the same thing in a recent PAL thread, totally straight faced.
metalslimer
Member
I'm pretty sure they were all jokes...
Nope. It was even mentioned in the relevant press release.
The difference was that the entire market was depressed, not just one undesirable product.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Here's how to rigorously prove your point:
- Look at other releases and games that week to see how their sales were impacted. If they were not similarly impacted, the heat wave didn't impact Pikmin 3.
- Identify that it was actually a heat wave, and not just an ordinary hot period common in Japan in the summer.
- Look at other heat waves and show how they had a similar effect.
- Show that Pikmin 3 had a better-than-expected second and third week (since the heat wave didn't lower sales, it displaced them until after the heat wave).
you really can't believe that weather has no effect on sales, right? it's a really common thing. it's extremely noticeable where in FL where i live. retailers can set employee hours based on weather. whether or not that had an effect is one thing (and people had a good argument as to why it didn't comparatively), but it isn't like that thinking is totally out of the norm.
TreasureHunterG
Banned
This was never a major effort to start with it and it's being treated like was a major AAA effort in this thread judging for the number of replies, c'mon. Ah... it's a third-party game (a mature one) that bombed on Wii U... ok.
Really? Interesting lol. He can keep it up then, made me smile like that one guy who consistently calls the Wii-U Yamcha.
maybe you should try actually reading the replies, peoples expectations were at best 10k, do you think that's AAA sales? it pretty much sold an order of magnitude less than the tiniest of expectations
metalslimer
Member
Of course major weather events affect sales. Anyone with eyes could have looked at that chart that week and shown it was nonsense.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
So why did every thing else do their regular numbers(iirc)? Why was pikman 3 the only game effected by the heatwave? Why didn't 3ds sale less(iirc)?
Well it was a port of a hd collection alread released and most people who own a wii u own a ps3 more than likely so its obvious it was a bad choice of what they ported