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Capcom: "We're targeting 30fps"; working with MS to improve Dead Rising 3

wapplew

Member
This game should be delayed. Would be a shame to see a game with such potential ruined all because of higher-ups' fear of losing face. :/

Not just this game, 6 character Killer Instinct, Day 1 refrigerator no night racing Forza 5 too.
 
Too ambitious? more like their engine sucks and they clearly didn't set some standards (30fps with v-sync) from the start.

The impressions from dark and yesterday's extremely choppy footage on the live event at Gamescom are not good signs...I doubt they'll hit their target at launch and releasing a game which should showcase next gen hardware that runs like shit is definitely not acceptable IMO.
How is that not being too ambitious? If your engine can't handle your feature set, you need to dial back on some things.
Was I not being insulting enough? Sorry.
 

zainetor

Banned
How is that not being too ambitious? If your engine can't handle your feature set, you need to dial back on some things.
Was I not being insulting enough? Sorry.

dude, their engine could not even handle dr2 magnitude.(lol)
Capcom is insane for letting this project in the hands of these coding noobs.
 

dark10x

Digital Foundry pixel pusher
I'm sorry, I didn't realize people here ran PIX on a build of Dead Rising 3 and looked at where all the frame time was being distributed to know what can and can't be optimized still.
If you say so Marty. Their track record and the distance from their target suggests they won't make it. I'd place money on that. It won't hit a stable 30 fps by launch.
 

TheD

The Detective
Not just this game, 6 character Killer Instinct, Day 1 refrigerator no night racing Forza 5 too.

Don't forget that joke of a game Ryse and Crimson Dragon, a game that was a 360 game and has been forced onto the xb1 at the last moment (and sure looks it).
 
So we have this for Dead Rising 3 thus far?

- Sub 30 FPS
- Sub 1080p (maybe even sub 720p)
- Looking like a current gen title

Sounds like a technical mess if you ask me.

Sub 30, yeah, but you're going to have to back up the other claims. It's going to sub 720? Really?

As for looking like a current gen DR title, you couldn't be more wrong.

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DR3 looks significantly better.
 

dark10x

Digital Foundry pixel pusher
Don't forget that joke of a game Ryse and Crimson Dragon, a game that was a 360 game and has been forced onto the xb1 at the last moment (and sure looks it).
No way, Ryse is shaping up to be pretty enjoyable and is also the most impressive looking game I've seen on XBOX One by a wide margin. The amount of shit it receives is uncalled for.
 

Feindflug

Member
How is that not being too ambitious? If your engine can't handle your feature set, you need to dial back on some things.
Was I not being insulting enough? Sorry.

Too ambitious is a project like Crysis 3 on the 360, the frame rate is not ideal but at least Crytek did things that shouldn't be done on the old ass 360 hardware and pushed it to it's limits.

DR3 is a game that has only 3 months till release date, it's doubtful that the game runs at 1080p, graphics look good but nothing amazing and the game runs at sub 30fps with lots of tearing...that's incompetence and not ambition.
 

TheD

The Detective
No way, Ryse is shaping up to be pretty enjoyable and is also the most impressive looking game I've seen on XBOX One by a wide margin. The amount of shit it receives is uncalled for.

Ryse is a game with every non ranged kill being a fucking QTE!
That plus the fact that even in co op every kill is still a slow mo QTE, (thus the other player sees two people on diazepam fighting!) makes Ryse look like a joke.
 
Compared to a shitty heavy compressed full of artifacts jpg of DR2, than yes...
dead-rising-2-xbox-360-198.jpg

DR2 looked pretty good.

I really think you should boot up DR2 and see how it looks compared to DR3 videos. It doesn't look anywhere near as good. The image I posted may not be as representative of the game visuals (just grabbed the first 720p image from Google), but to say DR2 (a current gen DR game) looks as good as DR3 is simply false.

It's not even hyperbole, it's outright lies.
 

Alienous

Member
30fps is the bare-fucking-minimum.

I was offended by Crysis 3 on PS3.

If the framerate is shit, I hope that reviews make sure people know about that.
 
Ryse is a game with every non ranged kill being a fucking QTE!
That plus the fact that even in co op every kill is still a slow mo QTE, (thus the other player sees two people on diazepam fighting!) makes Ryse look like a joke.

Wrong thread. There's already a thread for shitting on Ryse.
 

Nekofrog

Banned
Except for games that on your console of choice amirite?

The PC is my "console" of choice.

Edit: and for clarification, the horrid framerate stopped me from playing TLOU, a PS3 game. I don't have a dog in any console-war fight, I just refuse to accept horrible framerates no matter how critically acclaimed the game.

The one GOOD thing that I'll give Nintendo about the majority of their new console efforts is that they're generally 60fps. They're mostly bad games for other reasons, but at least they're visually keeping up.
 
I wasnt saying DR2 looked as good... just that it looked pretty decent. The jump from DR3 visually is noticable and of course its open world but not as big as it could.

Apologies, I was referencing the post I quoted earlier that said DR3 looked like a current gen title. Really should have made that clearer.
 

SapientWolf

Trucker Sexologist
I really think you should boot up DR2 and see how it looks compared to DR3 videos. It doesn't look anywhere near as good. The image I posted may not be as representative of the game visuals (just grabbed the first 720p image from Google), but to say DR2 (a current gen DR game) looks as good as DR3 is simply false.

It's not even hyperbole, it's outright lies.
Well...
 
30 FPS is ok as long as it's smooth and no vsync issues. Although not ideal, I've seen games run at that and it's fine - all about optimisation. Of course we'd all love 60, and really we should be getting that, but maybe Capcom at trying to cut some corners, or the engine isn't really optimised yet - because I tend to think the hardware should be capable.
 

KAL2006

Banned
Not just this game, 6 character Killer Instinct, Day 1 refrigerator no night racing Forza 5 too.

Forza is fine. But I agree with Killer Instinct and Dead Rising 3. MS seem to be scrambling, their order party studio output wasn't up to scratch so they money hatted Dead Rising 3 when it was being developed as a last gen game, they outsources Killer Instinct to another developer which only has a few characters, and they money hatted time exclusivity for TitanFall.
 

Ardenyal

Member
Forza is fine. But I agree with Killer Instinct and Dead Rising 3. MS seem to be scrambling, their order party studio output wasn't up to scratch so they money hatted Dead Rising 3 when it was being developed as a last gen game, they outsources Killer Instinct to another developer which only has a few characters, and they money hatted time exclusivity for TitanFall.

Forza isn't even content complete at launch. All the launch games they have are showing serious signs of rushing to market. KI, DR3, Forza and Ryse are all having their issues.
 

AOC83

Banned
Seems like quantity is more important than quality to MS at this rate. Wouldn't be surprised if they release this game with shitty frames and just "patch" it later.

MS already did that at the 360 launch. Rushing games that should have easily stayed in the oven for another year. So i´m not surprised.
The only difference is that they´re now using b-tier developers like Capcom Vancouver and Crytek.
 

romulus91

Member
The PC is my "console" of choice.

Edit: and for clarification, the horrid framerate stopped me from playing TLOU, .

wow... i only can feel sorry for you missing out on that because of a bit of choppiness -
why let 'elitism' get in the way of what matters....gameplay/story?
 

twobear

sputum-flecked apoplexy
Forza is fine. But I agree with Killer Instinct and Dead Rising 3. MS seem to be scrambling, their order party studio output wasn't up to scratch so they money hatted Dead Rising 3 when it was being developed as a last gen game, they outsources Killer Instinct to another developer which only has a few characters, and they money hatted time exclusivity for TitanFall.
I thought CBOAT said DR3 wouldn't exist if MS weren't paying for it?
 
Forza is fine. But I agree with Killer Instinct and Dead Rising 3. MS seem to be scrambling, their order party studio output wasn't up to scratch so they money hatted Dead Rising 3 when it was being developed as a last gen game, they outsources Killer Instinct to another developer which only has a few characters, and they money hatted time exclusivity for TitanFall.

I thought CBOAT said DR3 wouldn't exist if MS weren't paying for it?

Yep, pretty sure he said as much. No MS money = no DR3.
 

RetroStu

Banned
Forza 5 = 1080p 60fps
Killer Instinct = 1080p 60fps
Ryse = arguably the best looking launch game from either console

Of course lets ignore all this and pretend that a stuttering framerate on an unfinished game is proof that the Xbox One blows big time.

I'm really getting sick of this kind of shit on this forum, i'm someone who buys BOTH Xbox and Playstation consoles (best of both worlds) yet this shit does my head in, fuck knows how hardcore Xbox fanboys put up with this place at times.
 

AOC83

Banned
Forza 5 = 1080p 60fps
Killer Instinct = 1080p 60fps

Ryse = arguably the best looking launch game from either console

Of course lets ignore all this and pretend that a stuttering framerate on an unfinished game is proof that the Xbox One blows big time.

I'm really getting sick of this kind of shit on this forum, i'm someone who buys BOTH Xbox and Playstation consoles (best of both worlds) yet this shit does my head in, fuck knows how hardcore Xbox fanboys put up with this place at times.

Not really hard considering how they look.
 

RetroStu

Banned
Not really hard considering how they look.

Forza looks amazing to me and Killer Instinct is easily the best looking fighter ever with insane particle effects. My point still stands whether you think those games look good or not. Nice of you to ignore Ryse as well.
 
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