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*RUMOR* Kotaku headlines: Xbox One to launch on November 8, 2013!
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Nov 8 would be sweet, but I'm betting on Nov 22.
UBI and Sony have a marketing agreement with Watch Dogs. Watch Dogs isn't launching early unless its on a Playstation platform.
UBI and Sony have a marketing agreement with Watch Dogs. Watch Dogs isn't launching early unless its on a Playstation platform.
TechnicPuppet
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Some people fighting the console wars in every XB1 thread.
As others have said it won't be that big a deal. Would be nice but not a game changer. Both consoles are likely to be complete sellouts this year.
As others have said it won't be that big a deal. Would be nice but not a game changer. Both consoles are likely to be complete sellouts this year.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Anyone, even Xbox fanboys, approaching this subject rationally suspect that XB1 will be beaten this Holiday, just due to supply issue. The rest of the generation is another story. But for people to adamantly refuse to acknowledge first hand reports and numbers, in lieu of their rampant fantasies, is pretty nuts. But hey, Console Warz.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
Man... I still feel like even November is pushing it. The pinnacle launch titles (Ryse, DR3) don't look very polished and the system as a whole is still going through hardware and software changes. Delaying would kill Microsoft, but so would a troubling launch.
I'm not trying to spell trouble. I was thinking of getting an Xbox One once the price hits sub-$400, I just don't really want a half-baked product and games that need extra work. 360 had faulty hardware, but the online services and games were ahead of anything else. Even in 2006 once every company was on the next-gen boat.
I'm not trying to spell trouble. I was thinking of getting an Xbox One once the price hits sub-$400, I just don't really want a half-baked product and games that need extra work. 360 had faulty hardware, but the online services and games were ahead of anything else. Even in 2006 once every company was on the next-gen boat.
Black Republican
Member
Nice date if true. Maybe even oct 29th 
TechnicPuppet
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Where is the source for XB1 having supply issues?
It's possible there will be far more actually built PS4's to sell regardless of what launch dates are.
shinobi602
Member
They're not busy tweaking tools and design of the hardware in the last 3-4 weeks before release lol. That's when they're mass producing, organizing and shipping units and talking to retailers and partners.
The lulz would be epic. Truly epic.
Nightengale
Member
There's no proof, but almost every single retailer allocation info we got has strongly indicated that Sony has a larger allocation than MS.
And no matter how MS may put it, the fact is that they cut down their launch countries from 21 to 13, even in countries that has no language issues.
Tell me you don't believe they're actually having localization issues.
Tell me you don't believe that.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
I wonder how many Xbox One's they can supply.
Because if they can't drastically out-supply pre-order numbers, I don't see much point. This isn't the 360 era of launches. If you can't have a massive quantity of consoles at launch, and therefore on store shelves everywhere, you risk having a dwindling supply by the time the PS4 releases.
Because if they can't drastically out-supply pre-order numbers, I don't see much point. This isn't the 360 era of launches. If you can't have a massive quantity of consoles at launch, and therefore on store shelves everywhere, you risk having a dwindling supply by the time the PS4 releases.
I can't believe anyone actually believes that nonsense.
famousmortimer
Banned
If it doesn't come out before the ps4 something is horribly wrong. They just cut down on launch countries. If they can't get units ready for what's left before the 15th I'm taking that as a sign that their manufacturing is fucked.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Oh yes, that's what i'm inferring. I just think it would be exceedingly pointless to launch first, if it doesn't help push more XB1s out the door.
First hand UK retailers pre-order data, maxed out launch boxes on Amazon across the world putting PS4 several, if not dozens of spots above XB1 (which simply means their allocation of PS4s is significantly higher), best buy and gamestop testimony from employees about allocations for launch. etc.
I have not seen a single source claim that they carry more XB1s than PS4's or even imply it. I just think it's crazy to deny it at this point. And PS4 going through FCC several months early only further corroborates it. Or perhaps XB1 production is going fine, and PS4 production is going nuts. Either way the disparity is clear at least for day one.
That makes sense to me. Text is one thing, but voice recognition is another difficult beast. Implementing those languages isn't trivial by a long shot.
They could still have a supply issue, but I'd be shocked if this wasn't true to at leaf an extent.
With Call of Duty audience it sure will. Have the game first, have DLC first, have that Ghosts bundle where you get 50 % off of the game basically - could be enough to make an impact. As in "I wanted to switch to PS4 but now my CoD buddy has already bought an X1, dedicated servers are there, oh well..."
Iacobellis
Junior Member
Is it usual for a company to "find" increases in their hardware this close to launch? The GPU went from 1.23 TFLOPS to 1.31 TFLOPS after that presser today about the hardware of the machine.
It makes sense, except many of the Countries omitted use the same language(s) that countries not omitted use..... so yeah.
I'm referring to their SDK tools, which by all accounts are still being heavily optimized.
Chobel
Member
Yeah right, How do you explain dropping Swiss from the list of launch countries?
Is this a European bundle? I don't see anything in the USA.
So Europe gets either CoD Ghosts or Fifa and the USA gets nothing extra? Lame.
LordBaztion
Member
Would be great for MS but I doubt it since it seems MS is having wrapping up the XB1.
Sony made a smart move by releasing a week before black friday (probably they could have release sooner) but it forces MS to release early since they can't afford missing that date.
In the other hand could be possible that MS was holding the release date on purpouse to make Sony make the first move and take advantage.
Sony made a smart move by releasing a week before black friday (probably they could have release sooner) but it forces MS to release early since they can't afford missing that date.
In the other hand could be possible that MS was holding the release date on purpouse to make Sony make the first move and take advantage.
Do I have to? I don't work for Microsoft. I'm not a linguist either.
Supply issues. Especially because many of those countries use english just fine.
There are issues with supply. #cboat has as much as confirmed it.
One week will not make a difference. My guess is that the PS4 will sell more in preorders than the XB1 will move in the week head start, even if it gets a head start.
famousmortimer
Banned
Wasn't that boost from the 50ish mhz up clock they talked about weeks ago?
I'm starting to rethink my thoughts on November. I don't think there's going to be many units on shelves for either system in the first few weeks so launching first doesn't really mean much for either. It will just be filling preorders.
Backfoggen
Banned
Would probably be later in Europe anyways so I don't care
What do you think?
Considering how reactionary MS has been to Sony's moves, I would assume the former is the case.
Yes, 1,31TF from 1,23TF is precisely the result that math yields given an increase from 800mhz to 853mhz.
In addition, launching a english-only Xbox would still be much better than launching no Xbox prior Holiday at all.
Devilgunman
Member
Not sure how launch dates of both consoles can affect the other. People who buy consoles at launch are hardcore fans who never rely on buzz and at this point both Xbone and PS4 launch edition should have been sold out already. General public will get their hands on few months after launch and with only a week apart the buzz both consoles will receive in Dec and early 2014 will not be any different.
TechnicPuppet
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I think they pulled it from some countries to have more in others, simple as that.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
I guess so. It just doesn't seem like Microsoft has it altogether for a November launch. I'd rather have the console launch a little later than launch with little to impress.
You can do better then that, surely.
ref
Member
This is what I'd like to believe as well.
Nightengale
Member
This.
Watch XB1 release next year in the Asia Pacific countries with very minimal localisation of Kinect features, if any at all.
Makes sense!
So if the overall amount is the same, what is the point of shifting the consoles to other countries? Isn't it better PR to be "sold out" in 21 countries? rather than "sold out" in only 13?
At the very least give those other 8 countries a chance to buy it, rather than telling them to wait til 2014.