Oh this makes sense, 22nd and gradually build up Black Friday hype through the week?
They'll obviously hold back inventory for that day.
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Oh this makes sense, 22nd and gradually build up Black Friday hype through the week?
They'll obviously hold back inventory for that day.
Cool thanks hmm would love the 15th but 22nd is ok
dragonbane
Member
Remember, he only said they are called in on November 15th. The date could still be later than that. My money is on November 22st.
For who, if both are doing it
Then for both? Just like if they both had invested in Rift support, it wouldn't cease to be gamechanging because they would both be doing it. This fanboy shit is so 1990.
Anyway, thanks CBOAT! You're posting more frequently and while we appreciate it please be careful.
Right. If we knew when they were being briefed and trained we could narrow it down better, but for all we know they're being called in on the 15th to start getting ready. Either way we know it shouldn't be before the 15th and any info helps.
TangerineCloud
Banned
He barely escaped last time. Right now, heavily armed members of the Microsoft special task force are en route to CBOAT's hideout. He's frantically backing up all of his data onto a portable hard drive and wiping his computers. It'll be a close call this time. If we don't hear back from him... *swallows* then we'll know what happened.
Would not count on anything online being disabled this gen for any reason...
Too much after market money and too much invested in the games being connected
Stoffinator
Member
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Someone mentioned that you wouldn't likely be selling it back to MS, but selling it among other members in the marketplace, putting the game in a very limited supply. Part of the money on each transaction would probably go to the publishers, Microsoft, and (hopefully) devs. If implemented correctly, this could be a game changing goldmine.
3rdamention
Member
It sounds to me like that survey was probably from a 3rd party. It mentions both Xbox Live and Playstation Plus. It has already been confirmed by cboat and Wario 64 to be from a survey, and not an approved policy by either Sony or Microsoft.
Someone is being a middle man here, and sending out a survey to those "in the know" to gauge interest in such a policy, the ability to trade in your digital games or buy them "used." I think we know who DIDN"T send out that Survey, GAMESTOP!!!
Sounds to me it would be like a user to user system, using real currency. So you wouldn't be able to buy a used digital game, unless someone had it for sale. Then the publishers/console makers will collect a fee, similar to Ebay.
What is this CS you people speak of?
Customer Service
What is this CS you people speak of?
Costumer Service
Yeah because NeoGAF and its crying over 8.8 scores and the fact i had to carefully word this post in fear of being banned is any better.
TimeEffect
Member
OK...
So, they'll make more money too, since manufacturing sales are cut, right?
Alternatively, they can charge less for new games, but there's no reason to assume that
RedAssedApe
Banned
naw...bunch of nerds ain't gonna do shit...unless its one of those bad neighborhoods.
tensuke
Member
What is this CS you people speak of?
Customer service reps
reynal1287
Member
I hope it works this way. Money from used digital games going to devs would be great.
ShroudOfFate
Member
Oh man. CBoaT threads are the best threads.
If it did release the 15th, the midnight launch would be the most terrifying and beautiful thing I'd ever live to see. I doubt it would ever happen though.
If it did release the 15th, the midnight launch would be the most terrifying and beautiful thing I'd ever live to see. I doubt it would ever happen though.
3rdamention
Member
Maybe the seller sets the price, Sony/Microsoft and the games Publisher/Devs get a cut.
Kinda like an open marketplace like eBay. The market will basically set the price, meaning, what people are willing to pay will set what people ask to sell digital games for.
So like 80 percent of NA. World wide was probably an exaggeration (of course Xbox One isn't even being released worldwide...)
Unless gamestop sees the writing on the wall for the next ten_twenty and is getting in on the digital used market by running the infrastructure?
Yes agreed it is a user availability system but someone will make money on all transactions, allegedly console makers, pubs, devs from a cut the seller gives up like ebay
WetPotatoBread
Banned
Yeah it seems that the publishers are ready to get rid of the middle man in game trade ins.
One final re-post for the new page,
TRANSLATION:
Also, CBOAT posted again in the topic and clarified that what he posted about the digital sales stuff is not set in stone - it's a survey going around that suggests a possible direction Microsoft is looking into.
TRANSLATION:
Back home now. Yay! >_<
Apologies for the late October no show for the PS4. I heard it was that date, but Sony is not my strong suite. It happens. Call 1-800-BUT-OCXS for a refund of your money.
Seriously I am sorry though.
Xbox November 8th hahaha... no.
Saw Kotaku article and then their retraction. That's ok I could have told them November 8 was a pipe dream. I know Microsoft better than SCEA.
* Xbox One customer service reps are being called in for November 15th.
* These are customer service reps not actually working for MS. Hardly any of them do.
* New CS software implemented for November 15th w/ support for taxonomy for Xbox One.
* Called "Assisted Support Desktop."
* Anti-Phishing stuff in to make it hard for Nigerian Ukranian Russian princes to call about account info that not theirs but if customer doesn't have e-mail or a phone number associated with account, Xbox One reps will have tghe power to tell the call to fuck off.
* I wish I had some talked to some Sony CS reps 3 weeks ago. Oh well!
Do you want to sell your digital games? OH NO I ONLY REPORT BAD NEWS FOR XBONE!
Last thing, final word on the matter:
Get mad if you want, call me into question if you like. No sweat off my nose. My job is safe and your tender tear buckets make flowers grow.
9 years on these forums. Been here before. Reddit mad because they're shown up and I'll turn the lights off when they leave.
Why?
Simple.
I don't get paid to post.
Also, CBOAT posted again in the topic and clarified that what he posted about the digital sales stuff is not set in stone - it's a survey going around that suggests a possible direction Microsoft is looking into.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
So, CS reps are getting trained on the 15th.
Nov 19 or Nov 22 launch?
Nov 26th at the latest (Tuesday before black friday)
Also, I don't understand how they could make a digital marketplace work.
Why would anyone buy a full price new digital copy of a game when they could buy a used copy? Seems like they'd lose potentially a lot of money upfront.
But who knows, maybe they make it back at the tail-end if they're taking $5-10 on every digital sale.
Nov 19 or Nov 22 launch?
Nov 26th at the latest (Tuesday before black friday)
Also, I don't understand how they could make a digital marketplace work.
Why would anyone buy a full price new digital copy of a game when they could buy a used copy? Seems like they'd lose potentially a lot of money upfront.
But who knows, maybe they make it back at the tail-end if they're taking $5-10 on every digital sale.
Dragonborn
Member
I really have to agree on that. Try going in there in a Cboat thread. The amount of denial is appalling. I have an account there but man some of the people just refuse to listen to logic.
Gentleman Jack
Member
BRocknRolla
Member
Very interesting news. I still believe Cboat. Wonder how many people will still be doubtful about this post given that it's positive MS news?
To Cboat's post, that would be a pretty fascinating move, and I'm curious to know how they would attempt to implement such a system. Definitely a step in the right direction for digital rights. Some questions I would have however...
-How many times can a digital copy be sold and purchased. My initial thought is like MS's original "one transfer" policy. So only once.
-Who sets the prices on the market place? I assume it won't be the users (Just like any "trade-in" program), but will it be MS? Publishers?
-Will the prices be competitive with physical trade-ins? Or are we talking the GameStop method of $5-$10 off?
-And the culmination of all the above questions, if this is actually a good deal for consumers, why would they buy anything digital "new?" What artificial differences will be built into the "used" digital copy to continue to drive new sales? (Something like "online passes" that lock out multiplayer or something would be my guess.)
I think the baseline idea is great, even if it's just aspirational at this point. Seeing consumers getting at least the seeds of control on digital goods is a good start, and I hope it's something consumers start to demand going forward. I want to see control over digital goods across the board.
To Cboat's post, that would be a pretty fascinating move, and I'm curious to know how they would attempt to implement such a system. Definitely a step in the right direction for digital rights. Some questions I would have however...
-How many times can a digital copy be sold and purchased. My initial thought is like MS's original "one transfer" policy. So only once.
-Who sets the prices on the market place? I assume it won't be the users (Just like any "trade-in" program), but will it be MS? Publishers?
-Will the prices be competitive with physical trade-ins? Or are we talking the GameStop method of $5-$10 off?
-And the culmination of all the above questions, if this is actually a good deal for consumers, why would they buy anything digital "new?" What artificial differences will be built into the "used" digital copy to continue to drive new sales? (Something like "online passes" that lock out multiplayer or something would be my guess.)
I think the baseline idea is great, even if it's just aspirational at this point. Seeing consumers getting at least the seeds of control on digital goods is a good start, and I hope it's something consumers start to demand going forward. I want to see control over digital goods across the board.
OK...
So, they'll make more money too, since manufacturing sales are cut, right?
Alternatively, they can charge less for new games, but there's no reason to assume that
Good points
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Shit, that means it's not finalized yet.
Gies is like the Joker to CBOAT's Batman, without the tactical sense and overarching plans.
NullPointer
Member
Pinch me, I think I'm piedrivedreaming.
Or catchy phrases.....or hot chicks around him
josecitoxnyo
Member
This sounds great but there´s gotta be a catch somewhere. Maybe restricted online like another gaffer mentioned a couple post back.
Maybe after buying it used you can´t sell it back.
