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dream

dream

Member
DKehoe said:
Joe Silva isn't allowed to do interviews. I've asked Meltzer if it would be possible to interview him on an Observer Radio, particularly since Silva has subscribed to the Wrestling Observer for years, and he said the UFC doesn't let him do them.
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Wow. That's some McMahonian-levels of draconian control.
 
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bone_and_sinew

breaking down barriers in gratuitous nudity
TheKaeptain said:
I was admiring her athletic prowess.
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Was she scarfing that hot dog down with the technique and athletic prowess of Joey Chestnut or was she using a natural technique? She has the look of someone who would be a natural with those kind of shaped objects.

industrian said:
Unless you've got telescopic lenses where your eyes should be, how in the fuck big was this spider?
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It's a non-taratula, about 3 inches big. The coloring is ill, it's a bright red/orange that looks like magma. I didn't think the fucker would be so aggressive.
 
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Dysun

Member
Everybody post your favorite muscle shark moments
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DKehoe

DKehoe

Member
dream said:
Wow. That's some McMahonian-levels of draconian control.
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It's pretty weird, especially when fighters are allowed to do interviews after they say a bunch of dumb shit.

Talking of Silva and The Wrestling Observer, I meant to post this a while back. A back issue from the Observer was posted from April 22, 1996 and it featured this letter. I thought MMA GAF might appreciate it

Here are my thoughts on UFC IX. The pre-game show was poorly done. The announcer was terrible. I loved it when he said Don "The Wilson" Dragon. It was also comical when he tried to get Jeff Blatnick and Wilson say they would order the PPV but they answered negatively because they didn't understand his question. The time would have been better spent on fighter profiles.

I was shocked that Robert Ferguson was a judge after the names Campbell McLaren called him when I informed him that Ferguson was promoting himself in his newsletter as being so sought after by UFC as a fighter. Steve Neklia makes it seem like everyone who appears in his magazine column is the world's greatest grappler even if that isn't even their specialty. I don't see how Luther Campbell is qualified to be a UFC judge, but even worse, how was he supposed to be impartial when one of his former clients was scheduled to be competing.

Worsham vs. Frazier. What could be better than watching two 0-1 fighters go at it. At least the goatee made Worsham look less like Forrest Gump. I can't believe Frazier worse shoes, eliminating one of his few good weapons. I guess being undefeated in Japanese shootfighting doesn't mean much in the UFC. Now Worsham wants a super fight? Sure, Kimo was 0-1 when he got a superfight but he hurt Royce Gracie. Worsham lost to Paul Varelans.

Carino vs. Andersen. Not very impressive. I just pray the Varelans-Carino match doesn't materialize. Blatnick openly questioned Carino's size. Hey, how about getting a scale and measuring these guys like a real sport. How come those Ninja guys never throw down a smoke bomb and disappear when they're in trouble like they can in the movies?

Schultz vs. Goodridge. Schultz was very impressive, especially for being a last minute replacement. I think he's too short to take on the top big guys. With height comes reach and leverage. Royce Gracie wasn't heavy but he was 6-1. Short talented fighters like Renzo Gracie would have a tougher time against Severn and Shamrock than Royce would, unless there is a huge difference in skill level.

Hall vs. Kitao. I don't know why this match was made. Hall has never been impressive and everyone knows Kitao is a joke. I'm surprised they didn't mention Kitao was in Van Damme's new movie "The Quest." Kitao was in control when they stopped the fight similar to Kalman vs. Sutton. I hate how they break up situations when the guy on top starts bleeding. Boxing matches aren't often stopped just because of broken noses, although it looked like Kitao didn't want to continue once the doctor squeezed his nose a few times. Sumos should be banned from UFC. None have ever won a match and they have no credibility.

Frye vs. Bitetti. Easily the best fight of the night. Bitetti is a good example of why I never pay much attention to what people say about fighters that I haven't seen myself against quality opposition. Look at all the heavyweight boxers that were 25-0 that were terrible and would get exposed later. Bitetti was a tough fighter but never a threat. Frye is a talented fighter with a crowd pleasing style. A match against Shamrock would be very entertaining and would answer the question as to what level fighter Frye really is. What does it say about the prestige of the UFC superfight title when instead of asking for a fight against the Shamrock-Severn winner, Frye asks for a match against a Gracie. And so did Severn. Frye needs to work on his chokes. He missed some prime opportunities.

Severn vs. Shamrock. This fight would make or break the show and it broke it. As I predicted, Severn won by a boring decision, but even I didn't think the match would be that boring. Both fighters were at fault and the crowd was justifiably pissed. Both fighters should have been fined for their performance. I gave Dan the fight because he did some damage but they should both be ashamed. Winning is very important but in a professional sport, so is entertaining the audience. This is why pro wrestling became fake. This should set up a third match, but who would want to see it? Why did they announce Shamrock's record in Fujiwara Gumi when there is no doubt those matches were worked? Why didn't they give Dan's record in pro wrestling since winning the NWA title? Dan has won the Ultimate Ultimate and the World superfight title. He should now retire as the top star in UFC and concentrate on pro wrestling. UFC is too demanding and he's not getting any younger, and the choke and submission training never seemed to sink in. Dan has all my respect in the world for both being a great human being and a great winning chemical-free athlete. I give credit to Shamrock for losing with dignity, something that can't be said for Gracie and Ruas. I wish he'd stop doing the Hogan "prayers and vitamins" act.

The UFC is going to go down the tubes if they continue to expect fighters to sign exclusive contracts for peanuts. That's what killed kick boxing. I do hope Don Wilson enters because I'm tired of him running his mouth and he's going to get a real wake-up call if he gets in there with a decent fighter. One last thing. In the Boys from Brazil segment, they said Taktarov vs. Ruas ended in a draw. Since when?

Joe Silva
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Joe Silva was an MMA GAF mindset pioneer.
 
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Maklershed

Member
Friends, I completed my first FF draft (it was a live one too so a lot of pressure). What do you think of my team ...

Rnd Player Postion Bye Team
1 LeSean McCoy RB 12 Philadelphia
2 Calvin Johnson WR 9 Detroit
3 Eddie Lacey RB 4 Green Bay
4 Robert Griffin III QB 5 Washington
5 Giovanni Bernard RB 12 Cincinnati
6 Pierre Garcon WR 5 Washington
7 Greg Olsen TE 4 Carolina
8 Ben Tate RB 8 Houston
9 Caron Palmer QB 9 Arizona
10 Lance Moore WR 7 New Orleans
11 Denver Broncos DST 9 Denver
12 Fred Davis TE 5 Washington
13 Mikel Leshoure RB 9 Detroit
14 Nate Burleson WR 9 Detroit
15 Justin Tucker K 8 Baltimore
16 Kendall Wright WR 8 Tennessee
 
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polyh3dron

Banned
Maklershed said:
Friends, I completed my first FF draft (it was a live one too so a lot of pressure). What do you think of my team ...

Rnd Player Postion Bye Team
1 LeSean McCoy RB 12 Philadelphia
2 Calvin Johnson WR 9 Detroit
3 Eddie Lacey RB 4 Green Bay
4 Robert Griffin III QB 5 Washington
5 Giovanni Bernard RB 12 Cincinnati
6 Pierre Garcon WR 5 Washington
7 Greg Olsen TE 4 Carolina
8 Ben Tate RB 8 Houston
9 Caron Palmer QB 9 Arizona
10 Lance Moore WR 7 New Orleans
11 Denver Broncos DST 9 Denver
12 Fred Davis TE 5 Washington
13 Mikel Leshoure RB 9 Detroit
14 Nate Burleson WR 9 Detroit
15 Justin Tucker K 8 Baltimore
16 Kendall Wright WR 8 Tennessee
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Ah you play D&D Football Edition, cool
 
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Jest Chillin

Member
I know a lot of people want to see that fight but let's be real here.. does anyone really want to see either Aldo or Pettis hold two belts causing there to be roughly half the title defenses each year they hold them both?
 
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industrian

will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
Jest Chillin said:
I know a lot of people want to see that fight but let's be real here.. does anyone really want to see either Aldo or Pettis hold two belts causing there to be roughly half the title defenses each year they hold them both?
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Especially when you factor in their injury proneness.
 
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Chamber

love on your sleeve
Book the fight at 155 for the LW title. Pettis wins, no problems. Aldo wins, he drops the FW title and moves on to his natural weight class.

Jest Chillin said:
I'd be fine with this. Except for the title of superfight. Pettis needs defenses on his title for that shit and Aldo hasn't been "super" for awhile.
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The "superfight" label is meaningless. All I know is Pettis vs. Aldo is easily the most interesting fight possible in MMA right now.
 
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Heel

Member
Chamber said:
All I know is Pettis vs. Aldo is easily the most interesting fight possible in MMA right now.
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We'll see what happens. Pettis has to get this knee checked out. He might might be on the shelf until until who knows when. He's just coming off an injury, you know. He's a little banged up and needs time to bounce back strong. Then Pettis has to beat TJ Grant. That kid is a fucking monster. The division is so deep. You seen Rafael dos Anjos? Kid is a fucking stud. Then, you know, Aldo has his hands full at 145 for sure. Cub Swanson is coming on strong. Then you've got Nik Lentz, Ricardo Lamas. That division is a shark tank. We'll see what happens. If Pettis wins, and then Joesay wins, then we'll sit down and talk and see what happens.

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Dysun

Member
Pettis vs Aldo needs to happen
TJ Grant can get another injury and Mendes already had his chance let him wait
 
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industrian

will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
If Aldo vs. Pettis happens, then I hope they book the following fights on the same card to ensure proper follow-ups and/or injury replacements:

TJ Grant vs. Rafael dos Anjos
Ricardo Lamas vs. Chad Mendes
 
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muddream

Banned
Aldo keeps blatantly ducking $Chad$ and you people are applauding him? Aldo had to cheat back when he was merely a one-dimensional, green wrestler. Aldo vs Guida would've been a guaranteed 48-47 snoozefest, time for American superathlete $Chad$ to expose the last Brazilian p4p fraud.

Please remind me to troll the shit out of that 'tistic Aldo superfan junior the next time he fights btw, jeez.
 
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MjFrancis

Member
Heel said:
We'll see what happens. Pettis has to get this knee checked out. He might might be on the shelf until until who knows when. He's just coming off an injury, you know. He's a little banged up and needs time to bounce back strong. Then Pettis has to beat TJ Grant. That kid is a fucking monster. The division is so deep. You seen Rafael dos Anjos? Kid is a fucking stud. Then, you know, Aldo has his hands full at 145 for sure. Cub Swanson is coming on strong. Then you've got Nik Lentz, Ricardo Lamas. That division is a shark tank. We'll see what happens. If Pettis wins, and then Joesay wins, then we'll sit down and talk and see what happens.

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I wouldn't think twice if you told me Dana White said this. It's sounds palatable too until you get to "Aldo has his hands full at 145."

industrian said:
If Aldo vs. Pettis happens, then I hope they book the following fights on the same card to ensure proper follow-ups and/or injury replacements:

TJ Grant vs. Rafael dos Anjos
Ricardo Lamas vs. Chad Mendes
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They would be extremely short-sighted to book the card any other way. It would be reasonable for any of these guys to get a title shot right now.
 
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MjFrancis

Member
Who is next in line for the lightweight belt then? There's a half-dozen decent answers, but if TJ Grant isn't among them, who then?
 
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polyh3dron

Banned
MjFrancis said:
Who is next in line for the lightweight belt then? There's a half-dozen decent answers, but if TJ Grant isn't among them, who then?
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Gil Melendez who got robbed vs BendoSP
Josh Thomson who starched Nathan Diaz

Only if "TJ Grant" gets through one of them do I think he deserves a shitle tot.
 
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Maklershed

Member
See these past few posts is why I'm vehemently against the idea of a superfight between Aldo and Pettis. Both 145 and 155 are so deep with talent and there are so many fighters in the mix for title shots. A fight between Aldo and Pettis is going to slow things up forever (that is both guys can even stay healthy). Then what happens after that fight? Does one guy hold belts in both divisions? That'll bog things down even more. I pray to the Fertita Bros that all champs just stay within their divisions. And if anyone is next in line for a shot at 155 it should be TJ Grant. Assuming he's recovered from that concussion sustained during bjj practice a few months ago.

Unrelated: Saw the news on CNN on that Tommy Gunn died. I didn't seem to mention what of however? Complication from aids?

EDIT: Going back to the previous discusison. I think Dos Anjos should prob be next in line after Grant. The Screaming Eagle has to be mentioned as a strong contender choice as well if he beats Healy.
 
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Vio-Lence

Banned
Heel said:
Bring back The Beautiful Logan, finger and all.

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I can get behind this. I'd also recommend bringing back the beautiful Chandella and the beautifully big breasted Edith. the tyrannical reign of Arriany Celeste needs to come to an end.
 
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MjFrancis

Member
Josh Thompson would be just as good a contender as TJ Grant at this point. Anyone who KO's a Diaz earns contender status in my book.

Gil is coming off two split decisions. As the kids might say - dat athleticism. After his attempt at beating Benson on the judge's scorecard I don't care to see him fight until he can prove he wants to finish a guy instead of going 10-9 ad infinitum.
 
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