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RUMOUR: Xbox One version of Call of Duty: Ghosts is 720p, PS4 version is 1080p?

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Dinjooh

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There is a huge dif on 720 and 1080p. I was hoping the difference to be from 1600x900 or so, but 720 vs 1080 is huge, and I think even the average joe can tell the dif. nowadays.

We have been educated to know the dif. between HD ready and FULL HD, when we buy TV's thats what we usually look for, so this might just be one of the worst news for Xbox.
 

frizby

Member
Crazy that a rumor started by one person can spawn a thread with 5,000 replies and completely turn around GAF's opinion on the Xbox One, almost back to the DRM days. I guess most people on GAF secretly wanted an excuse to trash on the Xbox One again, and now they have it?

FFS.

Neither their policies nor their hardware are GAF's fault. This mindset needs to find another forum.
 

L4nnist3r

Member
Its the exact opposite. He says that we should wait for activision to confirm (running in 1080p) and Penello indirectly confirmed the 720p thing by saying it will run on the resolution Activision sees fit. Big difference. And Yoshida is a master troll.


Everyone make of it what they want. Right...
 

pieman

Neo Member
Out of interest, have Activision ever confirmed a console game resolution? Or is it left to pixel counters to calculate it?
 

Guerilla

Member
Crazy that a rumor started by one person can spawn a thread with 5,000 replies and completely turn around GAF's opinion on the Xbox One, almost back to the DRM days. I guess most people on GAF secretly wanted an excuse to trash on the Xbox One again, and now they have it?

Did you even read the OP dude? It's not just one guy.
 

Awntawn

Member
Crazy that a rumor started by one person can spawn a thread with 5,000 replies and completely turn around GAF's opinion on the Xbox One, almost back to the DRM days. I guess most people on GAF secretly wanted an excuse to trash on the Xbox One again, and now they have it?

Allow me to explain.

Unlike on anonymous forums where anyone can post anything and claim to be anyone, here people have specific names that can be recognized by other people. In addition, NeoGAF mods ban people who post false rumors. When people make claims as controversial as something like "the Xbox One version of CoD: Ghosts runs at 720p", they put their account on the line. This allows them to build reputations based on what they say. Believe it or not, there is an actual system of accountability here.

What may be difficult for outsiders and newcomers to see is that the posts from "random people that make everyone crazy" aren't "random people". They are people who others recognize, through reputation, as being accurate sources of inside information. People don't go apeshit over every post CBOAT makes for no reason.
 

Cornbread78

Member
Its the exact opposite. He says that we should wait for activision to confirm (running in 1080p) and Penello indirectly confirmed the 720p thing by saying it will run on the resolution Activision sees fit. Big difference. And Yoshida is a master troll.

This new and improved "humble" Sony will sit back and wait for it to play itself out. Outside of a few jabs here and there (the epic "game share" clip) Sony has just sat back and let everything play itself out, which is exactly how they should handle this as well. There is no need to speak up, it's already seen.

Although, I would lauch hard if the PS4 version of the game comes with this logo on it somewhere:

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Sadly true.

Which forums are you and he referring to then?

I'm referring to twitter. I have no idea what he's referring to but to argue that literally no one is saying that this is a game changer is an insincere argument to make when you couldn't possibly know the discussion going on in every single gaming message board.
 
He's right. Most people won't care. Unfortunately, most people don't buy consoles in the first year, and the people who do, will care.

Kuchera has also patted MS' but over the past couple of months.

People do care. It's anecdotal, but everyone I know who is a hobby gamer/not a huge techie started looking at the PS4 when they heard it was a more powerful machine.

You give them something specific like "CoD looks way better on PS4" and that's gonna cause a double take.
 

Maxy

Banned
I think your mistake was "Hi NeoGAF. I hate NeoGAF."

It's just more tiresome hive-mind nonsense, as if all of the thousands of members think precisely the same way and you're more of an individual than we are.

100% no. I used an exaggerated statement to get my point across. I'm totally fine with people discussing whatever they want to discuss. Why would it be wrong for me to state my opinion?

Like I said in an earlier post I think that this is the greatest forum for gaming and I'm merely surprised how much effort is being put to bashing on consoles, games etc by some. It's 100% fine though and I respect it.
 

Zornack

Member
Out of interest, have Activision ever confirmed a console game resolution? Or is it left to pixel counters to calculate it?

Considering CoD usually runs at sub 720p I doubt they've ever said what they're running at. It's up to pixel counters.
 

Desaan

Member
For the most part it's one sided this time, so I wouldn't call it a war. It's more of a roast.

A spit roast at that. And by spit roast I mean using saliva to lubricate an orifice. And by that I mean spreading some butt cheeks of potential unwary Xbone customers.
 

StuBurns

Banned
I'm referring to twitter. I have no idea what he's referring to but to argue that literally no one is saying that this is a game changer is an insincere argument to make when you couldn't possibly know the discussion going on in every single gaming message board.
And yet you said he gets it, which implies you do know what he's referring to, and agree. So, lets take another shot at it. What forum is he talking about?
 

x-Lundz-x

Member
Crazy that a rumor started by one person can spawn a thread with 5,000 replies and completely turn around GAF's opinion on the Xbox One, almost back to the DRM days. I guess most people on GAF secretly wanted an excuse to trash on the Xbox One again, and now they have it?


What does the water in Egypt taste like?
 

twobear

sputum-flecked apoplexy
I have a feeling that this could actually do some serious damage to Xbone's image. Just knowing that the Xbone version of COD is barely visually improved over the last generation might lead a large number of people to conclude that the Xbone is a Wii-like marginal improvement over last-generation's hardware.

It's conflicting because while part of me thinks it would be cool if MS got a break sometime soon the other half of me thinks they completely deserve everything that's happened to them. Or at least the suits do.
 

Interfectum

Member
I'm referring to twitter. I have no idea what he's referring to but to argue that literally no one is saying that this is a game changer is an insincere argument to make when you couldn't possibly know the discussion going on in every single gaming message board.

That's no different than him cherry picking some fringe statement out of the pile.
 

IN&OUT

Banned
where are the power gap doubters now?

I remember people saying "identical" " just like 360 and PS3"

Now, that's evidence started to surface even before the consoles launch, and it's as big as 720p vs 1080p is some cases.

God have mercy on Xbone once devs started utilizing PS4 extra compute maximizing system bandwidth.
 

Mr.Speedy

Banned
I don't understand how these people get jobs covering the industry.

Of course the majority of people don't care about 1080p vs. 720p, that's too technical for most, but if the evolving narrative is "the PS4 version of the games look better" then that matters, especially when the games preform better on the cheaper system.

Exactly. Also, it can be looked at from another perspective. A lot of people might not be able to tell the difference between the two but if you say the ps4 version is better chances are they will claim they see a difference and go with the ps4 version.
 

Cornbread78

Member
100% no. I used an exaggerated statement to get my point across. I'm totally fine with people discussing whatever they want to discuss. Why would it be wrong for me to state my opinion?

Like I said in an earlier post I think that this is the greatest forum for gaming and I'm merely surprised how much effort is being put to bashing on consoles, games etc by some. It's 100% fine though and I respect it.



Welcome to NeoGAF, we hate almost everything that isn't Demon/Dark Souls and well.... It may take some time to come up with something else that isn't hated around here...
 

GameSeeker

Member
Ben Kuchera also thought very few consumers would care about Xbone policies ;)

Well said. There were many journalists who though the Xbone DRM polices were fine and would be accepted by customers. That proved to be completely wrong.

So to say customers will be fine with 720p is making the same mistake as before. Wait for customers to vote with their wallets first, then you can try and draw conclusions about customer behavior.
 

Mondy

Banned
where are the power gap doubters now?

I remember people saying "identical" " just like 360 and PS3"

Now, that's evidence started to surface even before the consoles launch, and it's as big as 720p vs 1080p is some cases.

God have mercy on Xbone once devs started utilizing PS4 extra compute maximizing system bandwidth.

Yep, I think you'll find Sony are in the box seat for another PS2 style bloodbath, especially if they can achieve some sort of price cut within the first 3 years.
 

RamzaIsCool

The Amiga Brotherhood
Because of Japan?

Partly yes, but sales of the PS3 version were really close or outperformed the 360 version in other regions also. My point is that Bayonetta is a shit port, disgustingly bad. But in the end people who wanted to play it on PS3 just did. So it's not that clear what kind of impact performance issues can have on the sales of these things.
 

Bgamer90

Banned
I love how the immediate damage control is "bu bu bu consumers won't care."

Yo Benny, guess what they do care about... price. PS4 is $100 cheaper and has better third party ports. That will make a difference.

It could.

It didn't for the GameCube (vs. PS2) though. Tired of using that example but, it fits when people keep on bringing up the point as if it can be used as an "end all be all".

As long as there's enough interesting/appealing content people will want it.
 

LowerLevel

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I love how the immediate damage control is "bu bu bu consumers won't care."

Yo Benny, guess what they do care about... price. PS4 is $100 cheaper and has better third party ports. That will make a difference.

Hmm, funny to me that you used to be on my ignore but whatever. In this case I agree with you but I also add the week head start over on this side of the pond is a strong contributor as well. So many purported MS follies saddens me. If it wasn't for the much stronger launch line up (imo), it would be a complete disaster I feel. Good Lord, could you imagine if GT6 was a Ps4 LAUNCH title??? (sigh)
 
It could.

It didn't for the GameCube (vs. PS2) though. Tired of using that example but, it fits when people keep on bringing up the point.

As long as there's enough interesting/appealing content people will want it.

But the N64 didn't have the support the PS1 enjoyed and the NGC didn't have the hype the PS2 did.
 

RaikuHebi

Banned
Yep, I think you'll find Sony are in the box seat for another PS2 style bloodbath, especially if they can achieve some sort of price cut within the first 3 years.
As long as the devs have the balls for it. Wasn't the PS3 more powerful? However of course this time the ease of development is pretty par for both (Edge saying it's easier on PS4 than XBone).
 
Not trying to be a troll but I literally just cancelled my Xbox One preorder. I loved reading the news of microsoft making changes in favor of the consumer and wanted more reasons to get two consoles at launch. However this thread for me was the straw that broke the camels back. I will wait for a decrease in price and enjoy my ps4 in the meantime.
 

trixx

Member
So i'm guessing if the devs really wanted to optimize the wii u version it would be around xbone level which is close to current gen?
 

L4nnist3r

Member
Yoshida did not claim he did not know, but rather that he would let Activision confirm it. There's a difference. Albert's main problem was trying to "run interference" by claiming ignorance.

Yeah but none of them confirmed or denied it which is the point in question. I doesn't matter the means or tactics they used. The fact remains they both dodge the question.
 
And yet you said he gets it, which implies you do know what he's referring to, and agree. So, lets take another shot at it. What forum is he talking about?

I'm assuming you're being obtuse on purpose or that you didn't bother to read the post I was replying to which is why you're replying without any context.

Dictator93 wrote:
Ben Kuchera proving once again that he just does not get it. Just because people do not care does not mean it is not real or is not an actual issue.

So I replied showing that Kuchera does in fact think that it is an issue and that devs should be taken to task for it.

You asking me to tell you which forums Kuchera reads is ridiculous and completely irrelevant.
 

Interfectum

Member
It could.

It didn't for the GameCube (vs. PS2) though. Tired of using that example but, it fits when people keep on bringing up the point.

As long as there's enough interesting/appealing content people will want it.

These systems are launching a week apart with near identical controllers and games. One system is $100 cheaper, is more powerful and seemingly is getting superior ports of 3rd party titles.

This is nothing like we've seen before and it will make a difference. The 'mainstream consumer' also has twitter, access to websites and friends. If this continues the narrative will form that the PS4 is the one to get.
 

RulkezX

Member
Exactly. Also, it can be looked at from another perspective. A lot of people might not be able to tell the difference between the two but if you say the ps4 version is better chances are they will claim they see a difference and go with the ps4 version.

A lot of people can't loo at an image and tell what the resolution is, they can all look at an image and say which one looks better, this is where the argument falls down.

People are correct, you tell Joe average about 720p and 1080p their eyes probably glaze over, yet when they hear people talking about something "looking better" and they can see it for themselves then that will matter to people.

People don't care why something is better, but they do care if it is better.

And I really doubt that this will change anything for launch, it will continue to affect public perception of the respective consoles.
 

Mondy

Banned
As long as the devs have the balls for it. Wasn't the PS3 more powerful? However of course this time the ease of development is pretty par for both (Edge saying it's easier on PS4 than XBone).

It was more powerful but the Cell was, by all accounts, a lemon. It took developers years to wrap their heads around that thing and by that time, the 360's install base was too big to ignore.
 

Bgamer90

Banned
But the N64 didn't have the support the PS1 enjoyed and the NGC didn't have the hype the PS2 did.

Yep and a lot of that had to do with exclusive content and features which goes back to my previous point.

Don't get me wrong though, the PS4's price will obviously help the system. Just too soon to say that that alone will cause the system to have a "PS2-like dominance".
 
Not trying to be a troll but I literally just cancelled my Xbox One preorder.

I'm considering cancelling mine but the money saved will either be pocketed or put into a massive SSD for Steam. I find it strange people feel obliged to go for a console they weren't interested in originally just because their original one of choice may not be all that grand. Hold on to your cash for a while.
 

hohoXD123

Member
Not trying to be a troll but I literally just cancelled my Xbox One preorder. I loved reading the news of microsoft making changes in favor of the consumer and wanted more reasons to get two consoles at launch. However this thread for me was the straw that broke the camels back. I will wait for a decrease in price and enjoy my ps4 in the meantime.

And if this turns out to be false?
 
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