This is pretty much me. I had no idea how great it would be. I basically built mine for BF3 (I had a dream of BF3 1080p60 in 3D which never happened bc of tv limitations), because I liked BC2 so much on my PS3. Ended up hardly touching it, but it was the best decision I've made for my entertainment center. I picked up my TV and the parts for the PC mostly by researching in Gaf threads
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Nvidia: Gamers should not limit their options to PS4/XB1; PC is the way to go
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This is pretty much me. I had no idea how great it would be. I basically built mine for BF3 (I had a dream of BF3 1080p60 in 3D which never happened bc of tv limitations), because I liked BC2 so much on my PS3. Ended up hardly touching it, but it was the best decision I've made for my entertainment center. I picked up my TV and the parts for the PC mostly by researching in Gaf threads
jim-jam bongs
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That PCs are great gaming machines, and that they represent a valid choice to someone in the market for a machine to play games on.
Calling people "son" and insinuating they sleep in beds made for children, isnt looking good on you.
That post doesnt make sense.
jim-jam bongs
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Okay, I'm out for now. I have to make dinner and give my daughter a bath.
Hugs and kisses for all y'all xoxox
Hugs and kisses for all y'all xoxox
Should a company not besmirch its competition?
How many posts have we seen, where people ask GAF, :"Should I buy a new GPU, or a next-gen console?" That is but one of the person Nvidia is trying to reach.
People are so caught up in Nvidia not having a piece of the consoles, that they think Nvidia is only marketing its own products out of spite.
Do people think Nvidia would have rather Sony sold a few million PS3s, or itself a few thousand flagship GPUs, back in 2006? The answer is easy. Nvidia has never been pro-console.
PC gaming puts a smile on my face. It's so simple to me. It's an ultimate freedom in gaming for me. I can play on my monitor or I can play on my big screen. I can play games dating 20+ years back or play the latest titles. I can play with the steering wheel set I bought many years ago if I want. Or my flight sticks. I can stream whatever the hell I want in the background while playing. I can talk via a multitude of ways with my friends while playing. I can play my music when I want, however I want when I play. I pay half price for the newest titles before they come out. I can wait a little bit and pay 75% off. I can crowdfund games aimed directly at me, the PC gamer. PC developers work directly with me and for me. I have retailers crawling over themselves for my attention to sell me bundles. I have an infinite amount of indie developers offering their wares to me on a weekly basis. Most of the time I can pay what I want for it. I also don't have to pay any gatekeepers a dime to play online.
Do I get absolutely everything? No. However, there is so much available to me that (if I wanted to) I honestly could not care less about getting everything. I get damn near close to it.
I <3 you PC gaming.
Do I get absolutely everything? No. However, there is so much available to me that (if I wanted to) I honestly could not care less about getting everything. I get damn near close to it.
I <3 you PC gaming.
I <3 you too consoles, but just for your JRPGs/Nintendo games...
So, is Sony insecure, bitter and salty for taking shots at MS in their adverts and doing stuff like that game sharing video?
SwiftDeath
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There are ways for ghst's arguement about frame rate and perspective to be convenient but context is key
For instance in comparison to old ways to adjust/tweak frame rate perpective etc. I can imagine newer methods are more convenient in comparison
My initial argument is arguing that something is more convenient compared to something that doesn't have the quality at all your comparing is nonsensical
SapientWolf
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It's completely unnecessary. Most gamers play on multiple platforms. It sounds like Nvidia is cutting a promo against consoles every time they do an interview. They weren't nearly as antagonistic last gen. They're better off focusing on the tech and what makes their products compelling.
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Yes, of course PCs are the way to go. But consoles are pretty damn cool, too.
Mobius and pet octopus
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They have been focusing on tech and products. An interview doesn't mean that focus has ever changed.
Double standards. No one up in arms when Microsoft or Sony trash talk each other a bit, but when Nvidia does it, it's "salt salt salt salt."
Console-only gamers humor me.
You're obviously not a PC gamer. A GTX 285 could run BF3 on medium with 50FPS average. You want to know how old that card is? Four years old.
Now go back to being in the dark when it comes to anything related to PC. Too difficult for you to understand.
Edit: To add more, you can even game on a 580 that's three years old. On Ultra with 2xMSAA you get 50-60 FPS.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I think that he is referring to apps like geforce experience which will automatically optimize your game's settings based on hardware, automatically download driver updates, and shadowplay which is essentially an ease of use video capture utility that is supposed to have minimal impact of system resources including low storage (and free).
rudieboy77
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I was standing on line in front of a computer big box store and there a good four hundred or so there. So after I got my stuff and was waiting to pay, I noticed most of the people were walking out with GPU's and assorted crap to update their rigs. I was kinda impressed by the amount of folks with all the talk of PC gaming fading away.
Ghost Cell
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TIL that desktop computers still exist.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Unfortunately, my options are limited by the limitations of my wallet, NVIDIA, so no.
Trent Strong
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A GTX 550 can't even run BF3 on medium at 50FPS On another note, I can't run Crysis 3 on my GTX 260 at all because Crysis 3 will ONLY run on a direct x 11 enabled card. And I can't put a direct x 11 enabled card in my PC, because my PC has some sort of pci express 2.0 instead of 3.0, (or something like that, the details were gibberish to me.) So basically I needed to spend $1000 to play Crysis 3 on my PC.
TC McQueen
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Dude, PCI-E 3.0 is backwards compatible with 2.0. You can literally stick any DX11 graphics card in there and it'll work (although there might be some performance penalties).
Company which has no hardware in both new consoles and apparently "didn't want those small crumbs" whines about PC - definite shocker.
El Sabroso
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yep no limits here, along with my PC with NVidia hw I have my Wii U and 3DS
DirectX 11 support is not related to PCI Express versioning. And there may be reasons why your motherboard X isn't compatible with card Y, but the PCI Express version isn't one of them.
Stallion Free
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I see little point in buying one until enough of those games come out. I felt rather foolish buying a 360 for Gears and a PS3 for MGS4, not building a worthwhile library for either platform till several years later.
SmoothRunningGun
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I like PC's but consoles are a better living room experience. Steam has made strides with big pic mode, but two of the largest pubs (ea and ubi) don't support it well. ubi did add gamepad support to their launcher but it still needs work.
abstract alien
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All I got from that OP was "Hey, buy our products instead of the ones you like!".
If I cared about third party and multiplatform I would care about PC gaming a little more perhaps. Maybe one day. No exclusives I'm interested in on the platform. I'm interested in the Steam controller though, so I guess that's something. Maybe next time, Nvidia.
If I cared about third party and multiplatform I would care about PC gaming a little more perhaps. Maybe one day. No exclusives I'm interested in on the platform. I'm interested in the Steam controller though, so I guess that's something. Maybe next time, Nvidia.
But that's the crux of the issue. Mouse and KB do not work anywhere outside of a desk and you cannot completely rely on a controller to operate all aspects of your PC without needing a KB/Mouse. Therefore PC gaming means being on a desk or other flat surface and not on the couch without inconveniencing yourself.
First of all, a GTX 550 is not as good as the GTX 285, I know that can be confusing to some but you might want to check out a few benchmarks before you make a purchase.
PCIe 3.0 is backwards compatible with 2.0, so don't worry you can buy any new card that is out there and there wont be any difference.
I also think you're a bit confused on how backwards compatibility works, it's having the ability for your new hardware to work with your old games, not the other way around.
Yes it sucks that you can't play some of the newest games that are only available on Dx11 cards, but thats a very small price to pay for progress.
but then I could get those games on ps4 and not have to spend a dime on pc.
Seems like an even sweeter deal to me.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I game off my desk all the time... I have my PC dual screening a monitor an a tv. Is it an inconvenience? No. Not really. No more than PS4 users having to get up and physically turn on their consoles lol. It is funny how you seem to think KBM means you cannot play from a couch... I do all the time with my controller.
You're really exaggerating a non-issue tbh. If you're gaming with a controller on console, you can just as easily be playing the same game on PC. And if you're like... I dunno 90% of the world right now, you own a phone that is likely capable of being used as a mouse pad to do minor things such as launch steam big picture and then letting your controller take over from there.
Yup and it's getting better, it really is but it's not a fucking seamless simple experience. It's in no way "wife proof" (so the term goes)
It's almost viable now, for a small handful of games which will never bug you - but until Valve start mandating that controller approved games are FULLY fucking approved with never even a dialog box error coming up in "windows mode" then it's still got issues.
The flip side of that is the millions of PC gamers who don't damn well want all their menus and layout looking like a tablet / console OS - awful huge fonts and big boxes coming up just looking gross, it's a difficult situation for Valve.
If it was simple and easy to just have a really nice looking, compact, quiet and fast loungeroom gaming PC I'm sure more people would do it. As it stands, keeping it quiet, fast, compact, nice looking and not stupid expensive is difficult. (Remember those Shuttle PC's which were all the rage?) Then there's the upgradability, unless you stick with standard form factors (M-ATX, Mini-ITX) for example you could end up with a lemon you can't upgrade or the cost to upgrade is so fucking expensive it's mind boggling.
I run a HTPC in my lounge purely for XBMC and browsing - but it's awkward to work on compared to sitting at a proper desk iwth mouse and keyboard and it's awkward to game on. For the loungeroom, I don't think the PC is quite there yet, not for gaming.
jim-jam bongs
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Wife proof, huh?
And you would miss out on the advantages I listed. That's fine, you're not interested in them; they still exist, and are exactly what Nvidia are talking about in the comments which started this discussion in the first place.
And you would miss out on the advantages I listed. That's fine, you're not interested in them; they still exist, and are exactly what Nvidia are talking about in the comments which started this discussion in the first place.
perfectsil
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How so? People are going bonkers in that thread that they can get bf4 ps4 for $35, when you can get it on PC for $20
I see you're spouting your typical uninformed crap again. Ever heard of a lapboard? If you want to use a mouse and keyboard on the couch you can without much effort at all. And if you just want it for when you NEED to use it for navigation purposes or some other reason, you can just use one of these:
Vulcano's assistant
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I suppose nvidia can be glad even people nowhere near their target also follow what they said.
OldAsUrSock
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PhysX does not need Nvidia hardware.
CAN YOU PLAY SKYRIM 60FPS WITH MODS
I wouldn't recommend AMD CPUs to someone who plays single threaded games though. If you don't play much then they are fine.
perfectsil
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It's as if you've never seen someone with a htpc, you think they have full keyboard and mouse in the living room to watch movies? you can have "remotes" like these
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/rii-mini-wireless-keyboard-is-perfect-for-your-htpc-not-your-wi/
so many options, don't be ignorant
Mobius and pet octopus
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I have one of those. I never really used it for my PC but as a remote control to my tablet when hooked up to the TV.
Also, now there are many free phone and tablet apps that let you use your touchscreen to emulate mouse and keyboard.
OldAsUrSock
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AdventureRacing
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Agree with all this. For me nowadays the PC is much more convenient than consoles and really that's all a console was to me, a dumbed down simplified PC (not an insult either). Once i feel like it's more effort to be playing a console a huge part of the appeal is lost.
Honestly the only thing keeping me playing consoles at all is some of the awesome exclusives but even that has been diminished. Local MP/co-op gaming is going the way of the dodo and that's where i spent most of my time on consoles.
Actually that's a big part of the reason i have remained such a big fan of nintendo consoles and have never really taken a liking to Sony ones.
Mobius and pet octopus
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The best point you made was this one. A lot of these things are not things anyone would put up on a bullet point slide show (think PS+ lets you play MP now!).
FOV slider is not something you'd hear a dev brag about. It is just something expected and placed in the game to meet minimum standards of a quality PC title. Not every PC game has it, but I'd say most of them do and the ones that don't are blunders by the dev/pub that chose not to have one.
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