flaxknuckles
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Did you just spoil the comic? Goddammit. At least you saved me some money.
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The Walking Dead - Season 3 - Sundays on AMC
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Did you just spoil the comic? Goddammit. At least you saved me some money.
HammerOfThor
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The season finale was so underwhelming 
I guess I'll need to pickup the comics and start reading those.
I guess I'll need to pickup the comics and start reading those.
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Angry Puppy
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well isn't this petty.
people can change their minds and decide to tune in to see if the show is any better, especially since a new showrunner is coming in. One who pretty much had the only 2 episodes that can be considered objectively good in the latter half of the season.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Has this been posted yet?
Walking Dead Season 4 Scoop
(comic)
It would super obvious what they were doing though.
Walking Dead Season 4 Scoop
(comic)
Gabriel or Abraham???
It would super obvious what they were doing though.
Or maybe it should be a lesson in hyperbolic nonsense that people here spew due to the incessant fondness towards negativity at GAF.
We ALL know those people will be back, and I'm betting most will do so just to KEEP complaining about the series.
I mean seriously, NUMEROUS people have actually stated one of, if not the most, disappointing aspect of the finale was the sound of a fucking shell casing hitting the ground... and it's STILL being discussed. I honestly cannot even fathom how someone can even care about something like that, let alone be upset/disappointed by it.
This made me laugh.
Anton Sugar
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I think if anyone seriously thinks that the shell is the most disappointing aspect of the finale (did anyone actually think this?), they're a bit foolish.
However, I think it's just as foolish to cast a blind eye over these sorts of things. At best, it was confusing. It seems more like a sloppy oversight, but I would need to rewatch it, to be sure.
Air Zombie Meat
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You complain about hyperbole and then say this? I challenge you to find a single post that gives that impression. The shell thing is just a nitpick, not one of the main criticisms of the episode.
gravitybear
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hey guys, new to the thread.. I was avoiding it because I hate spoilers and wanted to be careful.
The only comment I have on the story arc of this season is that I think they picked the wrong guy to play the Governor. He just didn't seem as evil as they wanted him to seem. Maybe it was his doughy face, I don't know. He just didnt seem that intimidating even when he was trying to do creepy evil shit.
What I was looking for was someone on the level of Isaak Serko in S7 of Dexter. That right there is a rounded evil motherfucker.
The only comment I have on the story arc of this season is that I think they picked the wrong guy to play the Governor. He just didn't seem as evil as they wanted him to seem. Maybe it was his doughy face, I don't know. He just didnt seem that intimidating even when he was trying to do creepy evil shit.
What I was looking for was someone on the level of Isaak Serko in S7 of Dexter. That right there is a rounded evil motherfucker.
Seriously? Seriously??
In what context does it affect the story? The characters? The setting? Not to mention, you can't see anything, so you're guessing based on it possibly sounding like something you've only heard in other TV/movies.
This is a perfect example of where GAF falls in love with its own bullshit to a borderline narcissistic degree. Tell me, what do you think the average viewer's reaction would be to someone saying:
"Hey, wasn't it such a total oversight and super confusing that after Andrea shot herself it sounded like a shell casing hit the ground, when clearly she used Rick's revolver which wouldn't expel a casing?!"
It is laughably absurd.
What? The Governor was pretty slimy to me. Granted, I haven't read that arc in the comics yet (gotta start that tomorrow) but he seemed alright as an antagonist that keeps zombie heads in fishtanks and a zombie daughter to me.
gravitybear
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maybe that's the difference. he is WAY eviler in the books, like not displayable on TV (probably even HBO). eviler is totally a word.
Anton Sugar
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Holy shit, calm down, guy.
Did I say it affected the overall sstory? I was simply stating, from a technical/craft point of view, the sound cue was confusing for that sequence of events. Sound is an integral part to our understanding of what's being presented.
Please also don't assume that I don't know what a shell falling to the ground/pavement sounds like in real life.
To use your own example of the "average viewer's reaction": as I stated before, several people in the room were confused by the way that scene was edited. Distinct "wait a second" looks were exchanged when that sound effect was used.
In the meantime: chill the fuck out. We're making criticisms of a show that has been criticized outside of GAF for part of this season. This isn't a GAF thing, so stop trying to dismiss everyone's criticism under the flimsy "LOL GAF" defense.
AngmarsKing701
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and he shoots her.
honestly when the Woodbury citizens were coming off the bus, I thought Carl was gonna start gunning them down, Governor style.
THAT would have been dark.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
BTW, the finale scored a 6.4 Adults 18-49 rating. Holy. Shit.
robertsan21
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Andrea is finally dead thank you god!!!
The writing on this show is really bad these days, wow!
The writing on this show is really bad these days, wow!
Literally could not shake my head enough after reading all this. If you're hanging out with people who honestly feel this way and were so confused as to constitute a 'wait a second look' around the room, then clearly you are in your own element, one I could not even begin to comprehend.
Love how anonymous posters here are supposed to be free to harshly and often times nonsensically and childishly belittle, mock and criticize the hard work of hundreds of individuals who produced this show, but as soon as you turn that around you are 'dismissing' their opinion, cause all they are doing is providing criticism.
This is criticism on poster's criticisms here, and for some reason the harshness and callousness of language allowed by them to criticize the writers/producers/actors is not allowed by other posters to criticize them.
So excuse me if I don't revert back to 'LOL GAF'.
gravitybear
Member
I agree, although its a travesty man. I liked her character in S1 and S2. they just wrote her to suck so they could more easily kill her off.
robertsan21
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I kind of hated her from the start with all that macho bullshit. worst character on the show, well carl is getting up there and will probably be my next most hated character on the show, unless he changes quickly.
AngmarsKing701
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0/10
Beth is the only sympathetic character left on the show. Though, granted, because she's never on the show.
I agree that Beth is hot and all, but over Maggie?
Still glad she survived though, I thought they were going to get rid of her in the finale.
Anton Sugar
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Considering the majority of my friends are involved in various levels of video/audio production, yeah, I guess we are a part of an element you can't comprehend. That may make us biased, but there's no crime in appreciating good sound design or recognizing and criticizing bad sound design. Even if the majority accept these kinds of mistakes freely, it doesn't mean it can't be improved or pointed out.
However, as I stated the first time I comment on the sound effect, I'm not even certain of what I heard.
It's also possible to understand and appreciate the people who put hard work into this show, but that doesn't make the show immune to criticism. We praise teams when they put out great episodes, seasons, or series; why not criticize them when they do the opposite?
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Forget what I said about Hershel; Carl needs to pistol-whip Beth for her god damned church singing. Just out of the blue. As soon as she opens her mouth, Carl approaches and bangs her in the face twice. Best moment in TWD history right there.
Make it so.
gravitybear
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I sort of agree, but on a different level I think that Carl's character is realistic. I.e. he didn't have a chance to complete the growing up process before the apocalypse hit. He doesn't have as many past experiences as everyone else to shape him simply because his is very young. Being young also makes him moldable. What he learned in some of his most formative years is that you have to kill or you don't survive, and he didnt really have any mitigating experiences (as the other adults did) to temper that.
IMO Carl's character is a harbinger of the world to come - everyone will learn the lessons he's learned without the benefit of positive historical experiences.
"Criticism on poster's criticisms" tend to be personal attacks, bias accusations, broad generalizations and persecution fantasies. Keeping a grudge list is probably the saddest thing of all.
EdibleExplosives
Member
That's sick, they're both underage.
Nope.
Beth's gonna die next season, Maggie will live on forever.
AuthenticM
Member
Good. Maybe he can fuck off and die already.
In the show, maybe, but in real life, she's 27.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
What do you have against Carl?
AuthenticM
Member
He's annoying, he always have the same faux-badass stoic face and stare, and he's a child. That's a recipe for slaughter.
EdibleExplosives
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You'd want to watch a 13 year old facefuck a 27 year old? What's wrong with you dude.
timetokill
Banned
It's a post-legal society bro!
gravitybear
Member
shes 27??? mind blown.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
He's a child who has spent the last 2 (?) years in the zombie apocalypse, watching his friends and family die one by one in the most gruesome ways imaginable. He's either going to be totally out of control hysterical/crazy or he's going to be stoic and keep it all bottled up. I'm glad the writers took him in the latter direction.
Cornballer
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Heh:
From Norman Reedus' twitter feed.
From Norman Reedus' twitter feed.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
I'd be so mad if that ever happened. So, so mad.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Heh:
From Norman Reedus' twitter feed.
Carol > all
Air Zombie Meat
Member
The way Hershel reacted makes me unsure of their intentions with that scene. The kid did look a bit shifty but was that intentional?
EdibleExplosives
Member
Rick's gonna come to that realisation soon and Hershel won't be happy.
I think it's another case of weird editing or weird writing.
Either we were meant to assume the dude was just putting the gun down normally, and Carl overreacted and shot him.
Or, Carl thought he was taking too long like what was shown, but then why wouldn't he just say that to Rick? Instead, he basically agreed with Hershel that the kid was handing over his gun innocently, but he shot him anyway.
For a few seconds I actually thought the "kid" was going to try and pull something on Carl, maybe because he wasn't taking a smaller kid or an old man seriously. But even though the show failed to display the events the way they should have been done it's pretty clear that they meant for it to play out so that Herschel was right and that Carl didn't "need" to kill him.
Anton Sugar
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Yeah, I thought the same thing. Why would the dude bother to shoot at Carl, with a pump shotgun, when two people have him lined up in their sights?
Get away of her before you jinx her
Yeah, during the actual scene I was sure they were trying to make it a bit dubious, which I was perfectly okay with.
But afterward, they have Hershel make it sound black and white, like the kid gave up but Carl shot him anyway. Really just makes me hate Hershel more than anything, which I'm sure wasn't their intention.
For what it's worth, it also beat the series finale of The Sopranos (HBO's highest rated show ever).
As far as I'm concerned, it seems inevitable that TWD will eventually transition into films.
dead souls
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Lol indeed if you think Walking Dead compares favorably to any season of Dexter outside of the indefensible sixth season. Dexter is far from being a great show, but you don't have to be great to smoke TWD.
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