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[RustyNails]

ruh roh

 

[Nocturno999]

It's shocking how ignorant people are of early diving suits.

Early diving suit with a little girl? It may be a coincidence but c'mon.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

This is bigger than the protagonists name Harry Potter in the 1986 movie Troll! Or is it....?

 

[Zeliard]

Nah thats something else, heres the birdman:

the cover is just laying out random characters over a background

There were scenes in Bioshock Infinite with Songbird smashing shit. How much more blatant can you get?!

 

[disappeared]

There were scenes in Bioshock Infinite with Songbird smashing shit. How much more blatant can you get?!

I'll get the lawyers on the phone. You call the surprise witnesses.

 

[Instro]

Probably nothing. Even if the image was inspiration there would be nothing wrong with that, assuming there isn't any stories in that mag that mirror elements from Bioshock.

 

[charlequin]

Nah thats something else, heres the birdman:

If this thread accomplished nothing else, it will have been worth it just for bringing this gif into all of our lives.

 

[Zambatoh]

Not really surprised. I think Bioshock was purposely meant to be a throwback title for 60s/70s era sci-fi, but with modern graphics.
Or at least that's the impression I got while playing it. I dunno. It's been a few years.

 

[KingofGourds]

Creatively speaking, there's nothing wrong with taking inspiration from images/stories and crafting something new and original around the elements that most interest you.

Hell, Tarantino lifts elements and imagery wholesale for his films and no-one goes around calling him a hack.

 

[Rogue_Ledr]

I am sure you could find images that predate other popular works of sci-fi and fantasy that bear close resemblance to them.

There are so many artists and ideas out there, there is guaranteed to be an uncanny amount of and closely related similarities.

 

[frizby]

Have you watched City of Lost Children?

Exactly.

Doesn't make it a ripoff either. Some embarrassing posts in here.

 

[_DiGiTaL_]

Western studios can't come up with original ideas confirmed.

And this is why we need a thumbs up system on here

 

[Opinionatedfish]

Has anyone translated the story from that magazine yet? I love old Sci Fi and I want to read the story.

Also, here you go.

"Whatever has happened before will happen again. Whatever has been done before will be done again. There is nothing new under the sun." - Ecclesiastes 1:9

Of course, the rest of that chapter and the second chapter in context is summed up as "Everything is pointless and nothing anyone does will be appreciated or remembered in the centuries. The more I learn, the more I earn, the more I do will not matter in the end because we all die." Of course, there is an "unless" in the book. But yeah.

As for that PC game? Neat. I love point and click games. It would be kind of neat to see it remastered in some way and put on tablets.

Also, I always thought Bioshock was neat and then Bioshock Infinite pulled the works of Brian Greene into the fiction and I LOVE alternate worlds.

It was also why I was a bit surprised by people being confused or unable to wrap their minds around the ending of Bioshock Infinite. :-/ Do people not read?

 

[Brainfreeze]

LEVINE YOU ASSHOLE

 

[tauroxd]

LEVINE YOU ASSHOLE

When I saw it I went

 

[Opinionatedfish]

-Image file clipped- LEVINE YOU ASSHOLE

Oh my! Obviously, we're supposed to look at the Clarion-Call Man at the bottom; but the thing on top is so amazingly ridiculous. Just absurd.


Also lewd.

 

[HORRORSHØW]

Hell, Tarantino lifts elements and imagery wholesale for his films and no-one goes around calling him a hack.

sure they do. and precisely for that reason.

 

[EightBitNate]

Creatively speaking, there's nothing wrong with taking inspiration from images/stories and crafting something new and original around the elements that most interest you.

Hell, Tarantino lifts elements and imagery wholesale for his films and no-one goes around calling him a hack.

How can you even compare that to Tarantino? It's practically intentional in Tarantino's movies. He won't hide it and then deny it when brought up. /rant

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

Levine has shot himself in the foot.

 

[Cat Party]

Oh my! Obviously, we're supposed to look at the Clarion-Call Man at the bottom; but the thing on top is so amazingly ridiculous. Just absurd.


Also lewd.

To Macklemore, it's just a random assortment of silly things.

 

[Randy Monk]

I am literally shaking with anger at Levine right now

 

[sonicmj1]

The most frustrating part about this thread is how everyone gives Ken Levine credit for everything.

 

[SargerusBR]

LEVINE YOU ASSHOLE

Oh my God, this is gold

 

[Mutanthands]

Wow. Just...wow.

Why in the hell are we so eager to tear people down? I mean...yes I understand it's human nature to tear down and build up public figures, but this shit has been in overdrive lately.

It's the nature of the creative process to take influences and mold them into something different. And with the sheer breadth of creative material out there, do honestly think there is a concept out there that hasn't at least been partially covered somewhere else, in some way, shape, or form?

 

[knkng]

Hahaha, holy shit, that's amazing. I want to say that was brilliantly tongue-in-cheek, but then I saw "by IGN Staff".

Also this thread is ludicrous.

 

[AcademicSaucer]

This is one of the early pieces of concept art for the "Rosie" model of Big Daddy, which seems to be very, very close to the image in the magazine in terms of base design (helmet is nearly identical):

http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/features/bigdaddyart/rosie_early.jpg

son of a bitch!

 

[daniels]

The city of the lost children is also pretty similare in imagery and even in Atmosphere...
you know run down dirty with water everywhere, random grotesque crazy people, mad scientist that havests young children...

 

[stilgar]

This thread...

Guys, inspiration and plagiarism are way more intricated than some of you claim. It's the Carnival of stupids - copyright version.

Anyway, op, very interesting stuff.

 

[Zaventem]

The animetards are out in full force.

 

[daydream]

Wow. Just...wow.

Why in the hell are we so eager to tear people down? I mean...yes I understand it's human nature to tear down and build up public figures, but this shit has been in overdrive lately.

It's the nature of the creative process to take influences and mold them into something different. And with the sheer breadth of creative material out there, do honestly think there is a concept out there that hasn't at least been partially covered somewhere else, in some way, shape, or form?

I think it's fair to talk about artistic visions that bare striking resemblances to some of Levine's work, but I agree that it doesn't matter in the slightest if he was influenced by them or not (even if he admitted to something).

So yeah, any outrage is completely uncalled for.

(My low opinion of Levine as a writer remains the same.)

 

[Macmanus]

This is dope. Levine getting inspired by this would be fucking rad. What is wrong with you weirdos?

 

[stilgar]

The city of the lost children is also pretty similare in imagery and even in Atmosphere...
you know run down dirty with water everywhere, random grotesque crazy people, mad scientist that havests young children...

It's also a pretty good game, albeit way too short.

 

[Brainfreeze]

GUYS, IT'S NOT JUST LEVINE:

WHAT DA FUUUUUU

 

[daniels]

It's also a pretty good game, albeit way too short.

I never played the game i was more talking about the movie

 

[Galactic Barret]

Battle Royale to The Hunger Games scenario.

That pisses me off more than this. THG is good but Battle Royale is fucking brutal. After you read that, Hunger Games comes off as a lacking.

 

[Uthred]

The animetards are out in full force.

Wow

 

[patapuf]

A dark man kidnapping a kid and bringing it to a parallel world through a portal is not exactly a rare concept.

 

[HORRORSHØW]

The animetards are out in full force.

wow. you're fucking stupid.

 

[.Anema]

LEVINE YOU ASSHOLE

I was skeptical until this image hahahaha
OH YOU LEVINE!!!!!

 

[pswii60]

I don't really buy it. The little girl bears some resemblance to a little sister, but any little girl wearing an old fashioned dress would so that's that. As for the diving suit guy, it's a dude in a diving suit. I never really thought of big daddies as just dudes in diving suits.

My understanding is that Bioshock was originally supposed to be set on a space station until some major changes in art direction gave way to the underwater setting. I can't really believe that some artist saw the rather innocuous cover of this obscure Japanese magazine and changed everything based on that.

If this image is striking, it's only because we're already familiar with Bioshock, not the other way around.

This.

 

[Metal Gear?!]

Sounds like a lot of people should go watch Everything is a Remix.

Yep




And since we're talking about uncredited influences on Bioshock, like The Dark Being, Bioshock 1 owes a lot to Zardoz and Bioshock Infinite takes a lot from Deadman Wonderland and while he's happy to namedrop The Shining, Ken Levine is never going to acknowledge those influences.

 

[nbnt]

What if the artist was a time traveler and he's the one that stole from Bioshock.

 

[Jotamide]

Nope, "Señor Pompas" is "Mr. Bubbles".

Oh I see. Makes sense.

 

[zon]

Nah thats something else, heres the birdman:

the cover is just laying out random characters over a background

Perfect gif

 

[PepsimanVsJoe]

LEVINE YOU ASSHOLE

Fighting this thing shoulda been the finale of Bioshock Infinite.

 

[Death Penalty]

The image of the man in the diving suit and the girl seems like pure coincidence to me, and even if it isn't drawing unrelated inspiration from a single image is far from immoral. That Dark Being game, however, has some ridiculous parallels. To my mind, it stretches coincidence a bit, even if at its meat the game is very dissimilar from Bioshock in terms of content and story direction.

 

[Corto]

But ken read lots of philosophy guys.

Comic books and science fiction too. He is eclectic.

 

[Menome]

Well, this is interesting. Keep going. I want to see how long it takes before Kotaku picks this up.

You'll be waiting a while for an article to pop up, seeing as they covered it about half a day before NeoGAF got wind of it.

 

[Nikodemos]

Nah thats something else, heres the birdman:

I remember that part. It happened if you weren't quick enough to lock the window (a timed puzzle).

 

[kyser73]

Everything is a ripoff from classical Grecian theatre from 2000 years ago. Every writer since then, including Shakespeare, is therefore a hack regardless of whether they've read any ancient Grecian theatre or not.