GoofsterStud
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Considering we thought the PS3 was failing and it'd still be doing worse...better but not great. Surely Gamecube numbers are withing reason.
Note: I loved the Gamecube so that isn't such a bad thing.
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Analyst: Nintendo sold 55,000 Wii Us in March, 85,000 Wiis
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Considering we thought the PS3 was failing and it'd still be doing worse...better but not great. Surely Gamecube numbers are withing reason.
Note: I loved the Gamecube so that isn't such a bad thing.
DragonSworne
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80k is still too low to gain momentum and third party support. Wii U needs to be selling 200k+ monthly for it to be successful long term.
i'm still playing nintendo land with peeps. one of my friends bought the console after playing the game at my house. the game just needed a bigger push for people to even know what the hell the game is. maybe it'll have long-legs that'll help keep the console selling after it picks up.
Karsticles
Member
Have you looked in the MH3U thread on GAF? It's half-filled with people entirely new to the franchise. GFAQs, too. My wife just tried this as her first MH game and is totally hooked. I'm absolutely certain that she'll be dying to play MH4 when it comes out.
The 3DS version has something similiar to adhoc party. Not necessarily disagreeing with your other points though.
GoofsterStud
Member
Part of that is we are starved for games. Especially hardcore "ish" games.
Still with this?
Chinpoko_Master
Member
I don't think it has the pick up and play factor that Wii Sports had. I also don't think it appeals to casuals or "non-gamers" that much.
AZ Greg
Member
This post is amazing!
Back then those numbers were considered mediocre and both platforms were given a hard time. Lack of HD adoption, and the fact that gains were minimal on an SDTV, were used as one of the major reasons why the sales were so mediocre.
Now here we are, 6-7 years later, and HD is being credited for those sales being comparatively impressive vs. the WiiU's.
True but the ps3 had a horrible start..$599! But yes at least the big power difference compared to last gen must have helped
Tri did around 900k in US+EU iirc. Where are you getting the MHFU numbers from?
Beermeister
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Hey, Nintendo. $99 and I'm in. Oh, and games.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
If that's the case and how Wii U is panning out and how Gamecube panned out, then that means third party games won't save the Wii U? I guess Wii U's only option is to capture the casual market once more.
I don't know what Nintendo plans to do between now until the holiday season when the big games come out. Game and Wario and Pikmin 3 aren't really system sellers. Their entire business strategy with Wii U has been awful.
BluePigGanon
Member
Completely agree. Honestly if it was selling much better, it'd be on hype and reputation alone.
I have one, I'm hoping for big things to come. But I wouldn't recommend anyone buy one right now... and honestly, that's probably a huge part of the problem: the word of mouth on the Wii U is generally horrendous.
It's sad but true.
DragonSworne
Banned
Xbox 360 sales didn't become dominate until the kinect came out. I think the success of kinect and the abysmal perform of Wii U clearly shows that MS was successful in stealing Nintendo's audience. Once they made the switch, there was no way they would return back to SD.
Nintendo should have released a Wii HD when Pachter said they should havem
The whole "give third parties a chance to shine" line was probably just PR speak to hide the fact that Nintendo's own games were behind schedule and weren't ready for launch.
plantedunicorn
Member
So for how long is the Wii U gonna be languishing under the 100k barrier?
Really? Most people I've seen who own the system really enjoy it (off-TV play is amazing), and just wish the release schedule would pick up (and load times be cut down, of course).
Alex
Member
Well, it has a tool that lets you use a Wii U to play the 3DS version online. Of course, that is meaningless as it requires you to own a Wii U, which no one does and if you have a Wii U why are you not playing MH3U HD instead?
If that tool had been on the Wii as well, I could've sold a couple of 3DS's to friends who have played MH with me since the first. It's a real shame. Nintendo should have an adhoc party clone for the DS and 3DS universally on both the Wii and the Wii U, man I loved that thing. Now I get to play with randoms, hooray, I guess I should stop bitching about how dumbed down 3U is because if it wasn't I'd probably not progress with some of these goofballs!
DragonSworne
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Ugh, if these numbers are accurate, that's terrible news for Nintendo...I still don't think the Wii U is beyond saving, but there's no way it will avoid being the last place console this generation...unless Microsoft puts out an Xbox 720 that blocks used games, is always online, and is made up entirely of used pinball machine parts.
Yeah even people who own it, who are likely big Nintendo fans, can't really say anything positive about the system. Like I knew what I was getting into, I wanted to play NSMB and I got it, but I could never seriously recommend this system to anyone else in its current state. Unless you desperately want Mario or Monster Hunter, stay away.
plantedunicorn
Member
Damn that's probably October or November at the earliest. I was gonna say by the July NPD it should be able to crawl past that number since E3 would have come and gone and Nintendo would have announced some games that people are interested in; at least I hope that's what happens at E3.
Is this why you think it's peaked and won't grow with MH3U? No way has MH peaked.
Also, where did you get those MHFU numbers?
AZ Greg
Member
Why would people run out and buy the system based on announcements of games that would probably still be months away?
It is only going to get worse in the summer. They won't get over 100K until October/November at the earliest, depending on releases.
shinra-bansho
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It fits the norm of Feb-March transitions for the last 4 years. The 360 had shortages of unknown impact to Feb, Mar sales.
The issue here is what could sell consoles before Wind Waker/Mario Kart come out? Games like Wonderful 101 and Game & Wario are very niche audience games. Can Wii Fit U be a big seller?
It amazes me to read that load times are a major complaint with the Wii U. Nintendo has always stuck to their guns about keeping games quick and easy to load up. I believe that was a primary reason they went with cartridges for the n64 and ditched the Nintendo CD idea (which eventually became Playstation). Funny now the tables are completely turned.
There is an update coming to fix the loading problems. And if they persist, another update will follow. The table remains unturned...
I have strong doubts. I don't think casuals are willing to pick up a system that costs $300-350 and purchase Wii Fit U (I'm guessing $100?). That train has passed.
Pikmin will move some units I'm sure. It's not really about one major title though I think, just a consistent stream of games post E3 up until heavy hitters release late in the year.
Roland Deschain
Member
The Wii's motion controls were revolutionary when it released. Got people talking and had the perfect game in Wii sports to complement it. People couldn't get this experience anywhere else.
Contrast this with Wii U. Practically every household has a tablet of some kind. So casuals are out. Hardcore (ugh) gamers are loathe to play games on tablet devices. I really don't know what Nintendo was thinking.
Contrast this with Wii U. Practically every household has a tablet of some kind. So casuals are out. Hardcore (ugh) gamers are loathe to play games on tablet devices. I really don't know what Nintendo was thinking.
Baron_Calamity
Member
Anyone know when the WiiU started manufacturing? At some point soon, Nintendo is going to reorder parts for the next run of the system and prep the retail supply chains for holiday 2013. If the supply chains are still stuffed like they are now, Nintendo forced in a position to pay for WiiUs that will end up in costly warehouses or to close WiiU production lines.
It will be interesting to see what happens to Wii U sales in the summer months when everyone is talking about the new Playstation and Xbox...
I think he's talking about loading times from games not the OS.
Karsticles
Member
Then why didn't those starved people buy MHT? It's not like the Wii was flooded with games.
I mean, you may be right, but I don't think that disagrees with my perspective.
I don't find it sad at all. Blatant incompetence should be quickly punished.
GoofsterStud
Member
Is this Windwaker a sequel?
If it's just a remake I don't think it'll be big system seller. :-/
If it's just a remake I don't think it'll be big system seller. :-/
Alex
Member
Capcom had sales charts years ago (2009?) and talked about them further in an interview a year or two after. I dont have any straight up sources for you off hand. Google Fu could probably make quick work of it, though.
Tri sold even more than Freedom Unite, a fair chunk I believe.
But no, I do not think 3U will grow the franchise in the West, even combined. The 3DS version has no online and no one owns a Wii U. I think 4 will do better in the West than 3U but even then I will be very surprised if they ever genuinely surpass the numbers from Tri, that was a perfect storm for the series with a ton of ad support, bundles, good will from 2G/FU, and it came exactly when the Wii needed a game like that. So, IMO, for the design, I think they've pushed the niche as far as it's likely to go. Of course, they could be willing to broaden the appeal, considering how hard they hit P3 and 3G with the stupid hammer.
They would, if Wii Fit U offered something fundamentally new and compelling. But it doesn't.
Nintendo needs a new hook.
Is this a serious problem with Wii U? I've only heard about the lego game having loading issues.
plantedunicorn
Member
I don't know was just being optimistic, they've screwed themselves and the chance of getting themselves out of this shitty situation is really slim. This is not like the 3DS that they cut the price and promised some free games. Seems like every narrative you hear about the Wii U is something negative and they're gonna have to embark on some God tier marketing to change that narrative.
It's shocking that Nintendo is just letting the console have all this negative news surround it and not doing anything about it. But one has to wonder what the hell could they possibly do. I think the craziest thing about all this is the abandoned the Wii the day Skyward sword came out. What the hell have they been doing since then? How the hell did they release this console with no games. It seems like The Wii U either should have been released 2 to 3 years ago or it should been coming out with the PS4/Durango this fall cos they would have some actual games.
My friends still have no idea what a Wii U is. Anytime someone new comes over they ask what it is and if the controller is an odd on for the Wii.
All those peripherals and things like Wii Fit made the mindset that the Wii got stuff like that all the time. The name does not help it either..... Why did they call it that. 3DS and Wii U are both the wrong names.
All those peripherals and things like Wii Fit made the mindset that the Wii got stuff like that all the time. The name does not help it either..... Why did they call it that. 3DS and Wii U are both the wrong names.
"Please understand the situation." In all seriousness, Nintendo's just been sloppy and slow with how its handled things. However, as it has demonstrated, the loading times will see a noticeable improvement once the system updates are out.