Yep ! I'm glad I waited on this one. Will be picking it up on Black Friday. This one is not worth more than $39.99 with included dlc.
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Batman: Arkham Knight's Batgirl DLC is one hour long, does not sound very good
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Yep ! I'm glad I waited on this one. Will be picking it up on Black Friday. This one is not worth more than $39.99 with included dlc.
Godaisempai
Neo Member
wait, I don't get it aren't some games out there like $60 only for 3 hours?
$7 for 1 hour doesn't really seem like that big a deal
This is why the gaming industry is where it is today. I'd argue that Arkham Knight is definitely worth it's $59.99 asking price without the season pass.
Perhaps to you and you only the game may be worth $39.99 with the DLC included, but I refuse to believe it's only worth 40 bucks.
We gamers can be so frugal at times and constantly want better, bigger and expansive gaming experiences with lower price points. News flash, it ain't gonna happen.
Sorry gaf, don't mean to derail I just get annoyed when I read posts like these.
Sure, WB is trying to nickel and dime us with the season pass, shit they got me, but the standalone game stands on its own as a full fledged AAA game worthy of the 60 dollar price tag
I loved Origins but I still can't shake off the feeling that it was a copy paste of Arkham City. Outside of the story, which was the best in the entire series and the updated detective system, it felt that they didn't even try to innovate anywhere else. They lazily slapped together a generic map of Gotham, introduced two gadgets that ruined the challenge of the game and locked essential upgrades behind challenges that were only doable in story mode which made them extremely easy to miss. My main disappointment with it was that it had the potential to be the greatest game in the Arkham Series but ultimately failed because the developers were lazy
Also the fact that WB Montreal ditched support of the game after the final DLC was out, when then the game was still riddled with bugs didn't do them any favors
jobrro
Member
Eh I sort of got the season pass for $15 (was $30 before launch on PSN, and it pushed me over the edge to get the $15 back when you spend $100 during the last deal).
For $7 I think the DLC is decent. Was about 70 minutes for the story without rushing or getting stuck anywhere and maybe another 60 for collectibles and the back history of the setting with no guide (but lots of detective mode). In a world where some games charge $5-$6 for a single character, or a lot more for a boost pack this DLC is far from terrible value to me.
For $7 I think the DLC is decent. Was about 70 minutes for the story without rushing or getting stuck anywhere and maybe another 60 for collectibles and the back history of the setting with no guide (but lots of detective mode). In a world where some games charge $5-$6 for a single character, or a lot more for a boost pack this DLC is far from terrible value to me.
WordsintheWater
Member
Doesn't sound too bad length wise for the price, if it was a full fledged game at 60 dollars it would be in the 8 hour range which is common. The thing is I don't know if the season pass will be worth it still and this first piece of DLC doesn't really instill confidence that it will be.
If you're willing to spend 60 bucks on a 3 hour game, more power to you, but I'm guessing other people prefer to get a little more value for their money.
7 dollars for 1 hour is a joke. I've gotten more substantial DLC's for 5 bucks.
Nintendo's DLC has been hit and miss. On one hand you have Mario Kart 8 and Hyrule Warriors (minus the amiibo weapon). On the other, Fire Emblem and NSMB2. Smash is somewhere in the middle due to the mixed reactions on pricing.
Not to mention a whole bunch of other season passes and DLC being great. Rhythm games, Rockstar's DLC, TLoU Left Behind to name a few. Witcher 3 DLC is looking good (but that's unreleased so it could be average).
Give War A Chance
Member
I can't believe people are surprised. Truly can't.
family_guy
Member
Did Arhkam Knight really innovate though? Does the Batmobile really add anything new to the game? Many people don't even like using it.
the_batman
Banned
i know it's short and everything but i'll still get it when it's release stand alone.
leather jacket? you can't fight well in leather unless it's skin tight.
a dummy is born everyday.
leather jacket? you can't fight well in leather unless it's skin tight.
Beelzebufo
Banned
Ooh, some of those should be entertaining. Thanks!!
Gipsy Danger
Member
This game, while still pretty decent, is really turning into my biggest disappointment of the year. Arkham Asylum is one of my favourite games of all time but it just seems like WB want to ring out as much money as possible from people while delivering a sub-par product. I bought the PC version so I got doubly fucked.
You can't lift people with your mind either but Jean Grey still exists in comics. It doesn't have to work in real life to look cool.
You can't lift people with your mind either but Jean Grey still exists in comics. It doesn't have to work in real life to look cool.
the_batman
Banned
seriously? what a lame argument. and the leather jacket doesn't look cool, it looks like a halloween costume. armor plates like batman obviously would be best.
keltickennedy
Member
You can if you are made of paper.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Not even close.
Plenty of DLC is worth a damn.
Borderlands 1 and 2 have both had really strong season passes.
Fallout 3 and New Vegas both had really strong season passes.
Oblivion and Skyrim both got great DLC
Undead Nightmare
GTA4 had great DLC
Bioshock Infinite had DLC (that while controversial) ties all the games together neatly
Mass Effect 2 and 3 got plenty of paid and free DLC
Dishonored is also regarded as having good DLC
Minecraft on Xbox has had strong DLC Support
Burnout Paradise had some cool DLC
That's ignoring how many MP games benefit a great deal from things like new maps and game modes that DLC adds
Supermanisdead
Member
That Batgirl costume sucks. It just looks like cosplay. Why can't she wear a real costume like every other Bat family member?
Gipsy Danger
Member
It's part of her book relaunch. You should read the book because it's great but she's now living the college life in Burnside, Gotham and the idea is that she gets her costume from thrift stores because she is down with the kids. It's supposed to look like a halloween costume technically. What armor plates? Batman doesn't wear armor plates outside of this game. As far as I know. The costume in this game isn't that great anyway, it's why you obviously play with Adam West Batman.
Which one? The game one or the one Messi linked? Because the one Messi linked is GOAT.
Supermanisdead
Member
I'm talking about the stupid costume above that's just a leather jacket, yoga pants and doc martens.
It does. Car chases, races, takedowns, tank battles etc. Obviously it wasn't very well received but they put a lot of effort into making it the standout feature of the game.
Even if you ignore the batmobile there's plenty of new stuff in AK like dual play,new mechanics in predator sections, new enemy types, new gadgets and more
It may have not been a massive improvement over the previous game, like AC was but it still feels like an evolution of the series, unlike Origins that could have been easily labebled as a glorified expansion pack for City
I'm skeptical this is a first playthrough. He's doing everything flawlessly, as though he already knows where to go and what to do. (At least at the point I'm watching, around 15 minutes in) But yeah, seems short overall.
Gipsy Danger
Member
You monster.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Arkham Harley must spend every other moment doing squats.Harley looks pretty good ( ε )
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Gipsy Danger
Member
Lame argument, mate.
WrenchNinja
Member
I knew it. I knew they would disappoint with the DLC again.
And lol at love sick Tim Drake. Complete bastardization of the character.
And lol at love sick Tim Drake. Complete bastardization of the character.
keltickennedy
Member
You better be joking!!!
grosvenor_92
Member
I was expecting something on the level of Cold Cold Heart so reading that it isn't all that great is disappointing
GoddamnHarley looks pretty good ( ε )
Can we get a rerelease of the trilogy that replaces every instance of Harley with -this- Harley?
Also, please tell me this costume is available to view in the model viewer.
Doesn't make it not true. There are hundreds of stupid costumes in comics that if taken into the real world would get the people in them killed. See anyone in spandex.
Haven't played it myself yet, but after watching this it seems like some of the best content in the game. Much more like City and Origins in design, and it actually makes good use of the dual play mechanics.
Definitely on the short side though.
Gipsy Danger
Member
15 minutes in I'm seeing a lot of listening to optional dialogue and following the linear path of the experience.
If it isn't the first playthrough the actual one would have only varied by a few minutes, perhaps even being shorter if they didn't take the time to listen to the enemy dialogue.
But so far I'm not seeing a lot that extends the length of the experience. I'm debating whether I should just watch it all and not bother picking it up. I probably will.
robertlebrone
Member
Glad I only paid ~$30 for the game and season pass. I feel bad for the folks that paid $100 for this game + dlc.
MvmntInGrn
Member
I'm really liking Arkham Knight. I guess I should try Origins next but something tells me that the gliding in Knight will be the reason I like it better overall.
Also, I actually think the Batmobile should have been used a bit more. There is a learning curve to driving it but the missions that use it (for driving, not tanking) are so short it takes awhile to learn.
Also, I actually think the Batmobile should have been used a bit more. There is a learning curve to driving it but the missions that use it (for driving, not tanking) are so short it takes awhile to learn.
Spring-Loaded
Member
Huh, I so often see people post that the Batmobile segments are far too long that it's weird to see this sentiment.
"for driving, not tanking"
I didn't see many people harp on driving the Batmobile. It was more the tank combat that people found tedious. And some people not liking the Batmobile centric puzzles.
Spring-Loaded
Member
I definitely see people complain about the driving segments that pop up too. Were you trying to refute that too?
I hear people talk about individual segments, like a Riddler race. I don't think I've heard someone say "You spend too much time driving around in the Batmobile", referring to traversal rather than combat. You really don't do much of it in a required fashion in the main story.
Spring-Loaded
Member
I definitely see that very sentiment, but that's probably due to me looking at every Arkham thread.
EDIT: Them referring to stuff like APC chases and Riddler tracks. Since you can just drive around in the overworld as much as you want, I don't think MvmntInGrn was referring to that.
I do too, and I haven't seen that sentiment.
I've seen people talk about spending too much time in the Batmobile as a whole and usually when you inquire about it they more specifically mention the combat segments, and how they didn't mind things like pursuit mode Firefly chases. People certainly aren't as cold in general to things like the APC chases as they are to the drone fights.
MvmntInGrn's comment specifying 'driving, not tanking' is an example of that.
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
Less said about Burial at Sea the better.
Doctor Ironic
Member
lol @ people acting like Borderlands 2 had good dlc.
Four expansions that were apparently "General Knoxx-sized," which I guess in Randy Pitchford's definition means "it has a raid boss."
Four expansions that were apparently "General Knoxx-sized," which I guess in Randy Pitchford's definition means "it has a raid boss."