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Battlefield Hardline Open Beta Discussion Thread
- Thread starter VisceralBowl
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Seems like the collission box is either too big or when optimizing it they simplified it a tad too much. It's a relative easy fix, though I'm not familair with the engine from a dev point of view.
Don't think I've tried that. Which faction is it for?
Yeah that whats I meant to say. I don't know why people are complaining
Yes and no. Yes the team playing the objective wins. But at the same time there's fundamental problems with the way the mode works. The mode is basically "keep away" (of course, it's in the name) but there's various methods of keeping one team from actually attempting to get the vehicles back.
I'd say it's more map design, but at the same time the modes are "half-baked" and not well thought out.
This kind of stuff really annoys me when I'm in firefights.
This happens all throughout the map in numerous locations.
Yea, there's a spot on top of the bank that has this issue, sucks.
Reckless Onion
Member
In game it's called SA-58 osw for the criminals, put the compensator with angled grip on that and go to town
Yeah I get them way too frequently. Can make driving vehicles in Hotwire a really frustrating ordeal.
7DollarHagane
Banned
Does anyone else feel like it's too easy to defend vs cap most points in the dustbowl map for Conquest?
Most matches i play end up being a landslide on one side or the other. It's never close. It feels like once a squad gets a CP it's pretty difficult to recap. Especially the meth lab and the motel, because there are so many little windows and areas to take cover.
I feel like in BF4 that motel would crumble to the ground and leave a lot less cover for defenders and would be easier to recap.
It's frustrating that you can't blow up more stuff and change the map more. I think it would be more back and forth and less defender advantage if you could.
Most matches i play end up being a landslide on one side or the other. It's never close. It feels like once a squad gets a CP it's pretty difficult to recap. Especially the meth lab and the motel, because there are so many little windows and areas to take cover.
I feel like in BF4 that motel would crumble to the ground and leave a lot less cover for defenders and would be easier to recap.
It's frustrating that you can't blow up more stuff and change the map more. I think it would be more back and forth and less defender advantage if you could.
Mugatu
Member
This kind of stuff really annoys me when I'm in firefights.
This happens all throughout the map in numerous locations.
Yes, this is really annoying - hopefully it's fixed in the final.
7DollarHagane
Banned
They had to go and clean up a bunch of this stuff in BF4 as well. It's just difficult to catch all of it until people are live and playing. Same with the headglitching which they fixed mostly.
Mugatu
Member
That's what I figured - I know a lot of people don't get this game but I really like it so far and I have faith that they'll try to have a good launch after BF4.
7DollarHagane
Banned
I really like how different the weapons feel - the recoil patterns and increased recoil do seem to balance out the lower TTK. in BF4 you would really have to reach to see differences in a lot of the AR and Carbines.
SMGs are fucking destroyer of all worlds at short range too, but utterly useless at longer ranges.
Hotwire for dayssssss
PoweredBySoy
Banned
Not that there aren't huge fucking troglodytes out there that couldn't do this on their own - it's likely the account was just shared for this.
UnforgivenTwin
Member
But there's a possibility that it wasn't :0
RebornYeti
Member
I'm really bummed I can't have an RPG as default anymore. Now I have to search for one to take choppers down. 
Yaphett Kotto
Member
This kind of stuff really annoys me when I'm in firefights.
This happens all throughout the map in numerous locations.
Yea, they had this in BF4 and it bothered the hell out of me.
I noticed it yesterday when I was trying to head glitch a sniper and none of my shots hit.
I find the SCAR-H better. Much more stable but you can still get three pieces if your aim is right.
I'm really bummed I can't have an RPG as default anymore. Now I have to search for one to take choppers down.
That's the point.
Choppers are gimped to not be as effective as well, so it balances out.
King Gilga
Member
Man they still use that battlelog bullshit of having to launch the game from your browser?
Fuck that noise, I thought they'd moved past that by now, what a waste of 9 gigs.
Fuck that noise, I thought they'd moved past that by now, what a waste of 9 gigs.
pokeystaples
Banned
Is the N2000 in this one? I loved that gun and I'd be more tempted to try the beta.
Yaphett Kotto
Member
I honestly would take RPGs as a kit item with more versatile helis than helis being gimped with inaccurate miniguns and weak ass HMGs.
Sure. But that would render an entire gametype worthless, (Hotwire).
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
I wish they would've done more with the concept that just change skins, add in some police scanner chatter/, gangland speak and a handful of unique objectives.
There was a real chance here to take the BF franchise to previously unexplored territory.
Sadly, this is DEFINITELY not that.
There was a real chance here to take the BF franchise to previously unexplored territory.
Sadly, this is DEFINITELY not that.
My level 73 cries. I've only played conquest the whole beta though. I'm guessing hotwire is xp heaven?
Yaphett Kotto
Member
I don't see how. The HMG fires really slow and its difficult enough to land shots when you have a fast moving target.
The HMG would probably be better with just no recoil per shot, but even with a slight buff in power, vehicles can still get by without being torn apart by them.
Yes. You can be MVP just from driving the vehicle the whole time without killing.
RebornYeti
Member
Yep, this. I think I'm just gonna stick to BF4. This is game just feels wrong to me.
legacyzero
Banned
Really annoyed that shotguns shot take a split second to register. I could have bodied an adversary, died, and THEN GET THE KILL.
Hotwire. So long as no one bothers you, you can get 10K in score just "joyriding" in that mode. FairFight is going to soooo ban people that play that mode and do no killing, I feel.
7DollarHagane
Banned
I was able to do this the day it came out but it seems like people have wised up. Having a good transport heli and gunner is a must in hotwire.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
The thing that pisses me off is how ass the starting weapons are.
The M16 is pure crap compared to later weapons.
You basically have your ass handed to you over and over until you can unlock better gear.
Wasn't this bad in other BF games. The starting weapons in BF3 and 4 had better parity.
The M16 is pure crap compared to later weapons.
You basically have your ass handed to you over and over until you can unlock better gear.
Wasn't this bad in other BF games. The starting weapons in BF3 and 4 had better parity.
http://www.battlefield.com/hardline/news/inside-the-metaverse
Visceral said:
lol
I don't know about that, I found the Rifle to be ok and I loved the first SMG.
The shotgun is OP and the first sniper rifle is about as good as it was in BF4.
Haven't seen that so much now since after the first day. Doesn't mean it can't be done but people loooooove their breaching charges and RPGs. I actually find it more exciting getting into car chases and chasing after people even whilst capturing a point. Maybe not the smartest thing to do, but gives me a laugh
guitarguy316
Member
Can someone recommend a gun to try to get? I like to run and gun, like an Ar. New to battlefield games...
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
This brings up a REALLY good question:
How many maps does this game have for Conquest?
In previous BF games, all maps could be played on all modes? Is that the case here, as well?
I don't see why not, if Dustbowl can be used for Conquest Large (and it feels more like Conquest 32 player map IMO) then surely the other two could be ? Maybe they just want to restrict during the beta.
The other game modes I doubt would use anything bigger and the VIP and Hostage modes wouldn't need entirely different maps.
TimeEffect
Member
Ugh, spent all night downloading, only to see that PS+ is mandatory to play.
I do see that PS4 offers a 2 day trial, but I think I got a good sense of this from the alpha.
I do see that PS4 offers a 2 day trial, but I think I got a good sense of this from the alpha.
Haven't seen that so much now since after the first day. Doesn't mean it can't be done but people loooooove their breaching charges and RPGs. I actually find it more exciting getting into car chases and chasing after people even whilst capturing a point. Maybe not the smartest thing to do, but gives me a laugh
Right. But that doesn't change what I said. Get in a Hotwire server with 1000 tickets. Joyride around in circles for an hour. 10+ (probably 50K if you stay in bounds in circles) points easily. Throw in 200% and GG level up.
Heist mode with teams that know what to do (and after few day there is a lot of people that know what to do) is really fun.Matches are much longer than at the beginning and there is a lot of nice tactics.
Also this game is really making me play all the classes.There are matches where every class has its role to play as the match progresses.
Hotwire is also fun.
I am enjoying this beta a lot more than I thought I would.I don't really remember why but alpha wasn't half that good.
Also this game is really making me play all the classes.There are matches where every class has its role to play as the match progresses.
Hotwire is also fun.
I am enjoying this beta a lot more than I thought I would.I don't really remember why but alpha wasn't half that good.
Not saying this is a terrible game, but it certainly does have quite a few things that annoy me enough not to pick it up.
Like this for instance: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fYgXTMUalnU
Like this for instance: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fYgXTMUalnU
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Eh, just walk up a bit and it's fine. Yeah, it sucks, but Battlefield isn't about hiding in little corners and peaking out a bit to kill people. I need to be way more out than that and kill them when they move around. I can't be re-aiming just because they are out of LOS because I'm slightly out of a rock.
However, there are these railings on the heist map where the stairs leading up to the parking lot can't be shot through. Completely solid collision walls that seem like they can be shot through.