I always thought of it as "daddy complex". Is it differently named now?
I don't have time to watch this yet, but damn, I'd never thought of it like that.
The only male version I can think of is Starman...
If she wasn't a young sexy Turing test specimen would Caleb have helped her to the extent he did? I agree the ending subverts the trope but during the course of the movie she displays a naivety about the outside world but is quite wise to what's happening in the compound.
Meh that's just terrifying.
Though to be honest it seems more prevalent in sci-fi. Always associated it more with people into that.
I guess red pill is basically this too, but redpill was started by a bunch of people into this stuff as well.
I'm not saying all nerdy men are like this, or even that nerd culture is <x>. But I wonder if there's a bit of insecurity rooted in the culture not being seen as the most macho man in the room, which in turn drives this phenomenon- the whole desire to be seen as the greatest and best.
I don't know. I'm speaking in generalities here.
this dude explaining it as clips of it play really exemplifies how fucking creepy this is.
I think it is a bit misguided to address the ending directly at science fiction writers in general rather than screenwriters. I think movie science fiction and written science fiction are so far away in terms of representation that one could only group them together if one has not been reading too many novels of the past decades.
I imagine that with some products, the writing has to help making money, and one is just not ignoring a tried and true marked like lonely men. Like this is not just a trope in manga, it is a genre.
I would say this trope is more specifically for the genre.
I do agree that the fantasy of male dominance over a naive female can be found in all genres of nonfiction.
This trope is disgusting and should be banned.
You'll lose your mind trying to drill into his skull. It's best to just kinda overlook him.
You're honestly shocked and appalled that a society that reinforces women to wear makeup to look younger and shave every ounce of hair off their body anywhere but their head in order to look strikingly more prepubescent, where "teen" porn is massively popular virtually everywhere, and has traditionally placed high value on feminine virginity as some kind of mark of moral piety would lead to the development of some men with innocence and naivety as a fetish? Seriously? >.>
This trope is disgusting and should be banned.
Meh that's just terrifying.
Though to be honest it seems more prevalent in sci-fi. Always associated it more with people into that.
I guess red pill is basically this too, but redpill was started by a bunch of people into this stuff as well.
I'm not saying all nerdy men are like this, or even that nerd culture is <x>. But I wonder if there's a bit of insecurity rooted in the culture not being seen as the most macho man in the room, which in turn drives this phenomenon- the whole desire to be seen as the greatest and best.
I don't know. I'm speaking in generalities here.
You're crossing wires here. The Japanese have a more overt focus on pornography with young girls and yet don't have the same body hair patterns. You're arguing that this only became an issue in the 1980s? You're conflating a bunch of variables in no clearly related way.
The Japanese aren't the west. Removing body hair to appear prepubescent has been a cultural trend line running in western society for thousands of years. Has it memetically morphed over the centuries? Of course, but it's just as good as an example as any when trying to point to just a few of the odd cultural ticks that are around in western society that originated as a way to emphasize sexual innocence and purity.
And 1980s?! Where the hell did you get that from?
That's not even close to what I actually said.Because until the 90s, pornography had a lot more pubic and body hair for men and women in the west. You're arguing that everyone's standard of grooming is about looking pre-pubescent without any real supporting evidence.
That's not even close to what I actually said.
I said it originated for that reason, why people continue to do it is more complicated.
Yeah, Quorra is a little different. Her relationship with the protagonist is emotional but not necessarily sexual, and the main character is not an experienced washout but rather a young, inexperienced screwup.Interesting that the first example given in the video is also kinda the least applicable; Quorra in Tron Legacy seems barely worth a mention when compared with the examples that follow.
Interesting video overall, though. I rewatched The Fifth Element just recently and thought the same things about Leeloo.
That's not even close to what I actually said.
I said it originated for that reason, why people continue to do it is more complicated.
Yeah, Quorra is a little different. Her relationship with the protagonist is emotional but not necessarily sexual, and the main character is not an experienced washout but rather a young, inexperienced screwup.
I find amusing the idea that with how many remakes and reboots there are, at some point someone must have tried to pitch a version of Big with the genders reversed. Creepy AF, right?
Can you imagine the face of someone being pitched a reverse gender version of Big over lunch? That would be hilarious to see.
I find amusing the idea that with how many remakes and reboots there are, at some point someone must have tried to pitch a version of Big with the genders reversed. Creepy AF, right?
Can you imagine the face of someone being pitched a reverse gender version of Big over lunch? That would be hilarious to see.
The Fruit is Swelling.
It is alternately hilarious and horrifying.
Isn't that what 13 Going on 30 was?
(I've never seen 13 Going on 30 past the trailers)
I did see 17 Again, which was about Matthew Perry turning into Zac Efron, and that got into hijinks with his wife and daughter that were...weird.
Fifth element was made by the same man who literally made a lolimovie with a 12 year old girl.
I've not seen She's Out Of My League but from a random synopsis on the web "an average guy stuck in a dead-end job, can't believe his luck when a gorgeous, successful woman named Molly (Alice Eve) falls in love with him" that doesn't sound anything like a reversal of "born sexy yesterday" but rather yet another male fantasy brought to life on screen - ie. it's all about the guy still. He's not naive or wise.Thinking on it, there are a bunch of movies where the guy is the naive one in an unbalanced relationship too (think crap like She's out of my league). Likely because there have been a crap load of movies and media over the years.
Yeah, really well researched.this dude explaining it as clips of it play really exemplifies how fucking creepy this is.