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Call of Duty: WWII (PC/PS4/XB1, Nov 3) Info: Campaign, Zombies, MP, Trailer, More

Martian

Member
Looking good! Just wish it was more of a World War and less so focussed on America in Europe.

It would be so cool if they introduced a truly world wide war.

Then again, im just happy they made a new ww2 game
 

Kyonashi

Member
Haven't played a CoD game since MW3, and whilst this looks kinda interesting, it made me realise that if I wanted to play MW:Remastered, I still have to drop ~£40 for the Legacy Edition of Infinite Warfare...
 

kiguel182

Member
No health regen? I wonder if this applies to multiplayer, that would be a big change to the formula. Altought I don't think it's a particulary good change. I like health regen in COD.

Given how I'm not a fan of the setting I'll wait for Black Ops 4 or whatever Treyarch is working on. I hope they improve the story (didn't even finish 3's campaign) but I always enjoy their multiplayer.

Titanfall 2 will be my "COD-like" shooter for one more year.
 

Daffy Duck

Member
No health regen? I wonder if this applies to multiplayer, that would be a big change to the formula. Altought I don't think it's a particulary good change. I like health regen in COD.

Given how I'm not a fan of the setting I'll wait for Black Ops 4 or whatever Treyarch is working on. I hope they improve the story (didn't even finish 3's campaign) but I always enjoy their multiplayer.

Titanfall 2 will be my "COD-like" shooter for one more year.

There is no way no health regen makes it to multiplayer, and I think IGN stated it was singleplayer only.
 

GlamFM

Banned
No health regen? I wonder if this applies to multiplayer, that would be a big change to the formula. Altought I don't think it's a particulary good change. I like health regen in COD.

There never was health regen in hardcore mode, no?
 

TirMcGrey

Member
This will be my first CoD purchase since Black Ops 2. Even with the awesome campaign that was Infinite Warfare.

This turns my stomach. Just flat out the most offensive game I've ever seen.

I can name family members that died in this conflict, wept at the pictures and accounts of the dead and maimed that experienced this hell, was taught all the horrors of it from primary school, through my whole life, it's only ever been a symbol of the folly of war, the worst, most black and shameful era of European and American history. I've been to the actual battlefields and mass graves across Europe, held the minutes silence without fail every rememberence day my entire life, for as long as I could understand the meaning of it.

There was no glory in this war. No thrilling action or daring do, no heroes and villains, this was mass murder, a scar on the history of our species, and every single person involved in it was a victim.

This trailer, the entire concept of this game, makes me feel physically sick, and just so fucking angry.

How fucking dare anyone make a game like this about the Second World War.

I don't know what's worse, the sick fucking emotionless, greedy cunts that would seriously exploit this horror of an industrialised massacre, or the ignorant, soulless bastards that will give them money and enjoy it.

Anyone involved in this, or seriously think of buying this, should be ashamed of themselves.

Gotta admit, I thought this was real at first.
 

Iacobellis

Junior Member
Anyone else catch how the map that was briefly shown looks like Outskirts from WaW?

C-aC-1wXsAEKhz8.jpg:large


(Taken from this tweet.)
 

ArmGunar

Member
Lucky to preorder it for 43€ on PS4 (now up again to 69.9€)

Glad to see there's a beta, can cancel whenever I want if the game disappoints
 

Xater

Member
Game turned out to be as boring as I expected it to be. America saves the world again in a compilation of WW2's greatest video game moments. I couldn't help but I my eyes of the opening with D-Day. I'd rather would have seen Sledgehammer do Advan ed Warfare 2 than this.
 

nOoblet16

Member
If it does it will be a bold move, I'll be curious to see how that works.



There wasn't? I never played hardcore but my impression is that you just died much faster but maybe there wasn't health regen there.
IW had a specialist mode with no regeneration. You needed nano shots, you could also get body parts individually damaged and have the gun shot out of your hands.
 
If so, then that concerns me. Infinite Warfare is garbage on PC no deds and no anti-cheat. Despite Black ops 3 having both.

That's because Treyarch is the only CoD developer that gives a shit about PC.

Sledgehammer is probably the worst of the three. They were completely silent about the PC version prior to release and actively lied about the dedicated servers question. Advanced Warfare MP had no FoV option, no dedicated servers, no anti-cheat and the default mouse implementation used smoothing with no way to turn it off. Hacked lobbies and public cheats were rampant on the day of release. It's no surprise that it died less than a month later.
 

Inside

Member
Anyone else catch how the map that was briefly shown looks like Outskirts from WaW?

C-aC-1wXsAEKhz8.jpg:large


(Taken from this tweet.)

It would not be a real WW2 game set in Europe if there is not some kind of church as part of a mission. And these two buildings does not look at all like each other.
 

nOoblet16

Member
What I don't understand is why do they insist on doing the same battles again and again from American pov when there were so many different battles on so many fronts with so many different sides.

I mean haven't we already played these battles in a bazillion games already? If you are going to being back WW2 then atleast offer a theatre not seen before or not done as frequently. Pacific Front gets ignored unless it's a specific game solely focused on Pacific Front.
 

nOoblet16

Member
It's funny, people keep saying how the Normandy Beach-landing has been done a zillion times in games, but how many games (not including MP-only titles like Day of Defeat or BF1942) have actually featured it?

- MOH: Allied Assault
- MOH: Frontline (which was a pseudo-console port of Allied Assault)
- Call of Duty 2 (which focused on the Pointe du Hoc sector)
- Company of Heroes' 1st tutorial level

What else is there? Conker's Bad Fur Day? We've really only done the Omaha/Utah Beach landing like, twice as far as mainstream WW2 shooters go. Yet you'd think it's like the WW2 equivalent of the Hoth level or something the way people talk about how many times its been done.
Well if you look at it that way then the "futuristic setting with jetpacks is saturated" complaints hold no grounds either because we had like how many futuristic games with jetpacks?

Advanced Warfare
Blops 3
Infinite Warfare

Ghosts was near future but it was quite low tech in setting and felt like a modern warfare game. Blops 2 was near future but it also had half the game in the past, plus it was grounded as well with no jet packs and stuff.
 

Guileless

Temp Banned for Remedial Purposes
Because Soviets played the most important part in defeating Nazis. What kind of question is that?

Lots of Soviets died for sure, but a lot of that was down to the weaknesses of the Soviet system. Stalin incomprehensibly trusted Hitler right up to the eve of Barbarossa and had made a formal alliance with him. Stalin's purges of military leadership in the 30s made the Soviet army incompetent. Also general disregard for individual human life in their tactics ingrained by communist ideology.
 

Yu Furealdo

Member
Honestly I'm glad this game has more of a narrative focus. While it was fun to jump from character to character in the older games and not really have deep stories about any of the individuals, I'm curious to see what they can do with this.
 

Randam

Member
Well if you look at it that way then the "futuristic setting with jetpacks is saturated" complaints hold no grounds either because we had like how many futuristic games with jetpacks?

Advanced Warfare
Blops 3
Infinite Warfare

Ghosts was near future but it was quite low tech in setting and felt like a modern warfare game. Blops 2 was near future but it also had half the game in the past, plus it was grounded as well with no jet packs and stuff.
Can you post some links where people said that?


But anyways, you are forgetting halo, destiny and so on.
 

Jpar54

Neo Member
Lots of Soviets died for sure, but a lot of that was down to the weaknesses of the Soviet system.

They also did by far the most of killing the Nazi soldiers, altough western bombing probably killed more German civilians. At the time of D-Day the war was already decided, everybody knew that the Red Army was going to win. Stalingrad and Kursk had already happened and operation Bagration was just about to start. And even after Normandy the Eastern Front remained by far the bigger. There is really no argument.

It is funny to see how the propaganda works though. In 1945 clear majority of the French thought that the Soviet Union had done the most to beat the Nazis, but by 2004 the opinion had flipped completely and majority thought the USA had done the most.

sondage-nation-contribue-defaite-nazis.jpg
 

ivan.k

Member
Lots of Soviets died for sure, but a lot of that was down to the weaknesses of the Soviet system. Stalin incomprehensibly trusted Hitler right up to the eve of Barbarossa and had made a formal alliance with him. Stalin's purges of military leadership in the 30s made the Soviet army incompetent. Also general disregard for individual human life in their tactics ingrained by communist ideology.

Ok? What are you trying to say exactly? Soviets get the job done and stopped the Nazis.
 

ivan.k

Member
It is funny to see how the propaganda works though. In 1945 clear majority of the French thought that the Soviet Union had done the most to beat the Nazis, but by 2004 the opinion had flipped completely and majority thought the USA had done the most.

sondage-nation-contribue-defaite-nazis.jpg

This is pathetic
 

RodzTF

Member
I find it hard to believe that this was greenlit "two and a half years ago" in its form now as we see it, when Advanced Warfare was the first game with boost jumping. They state it a few times, it's as if they're trying to look cool and as if they were ahead of all the impending backlash towards the futuristic games and wanting a return to roots. Or were Activision smart and knew three futuristic games would be enough?
 
What I don't understand is why do they insist on doing the same battles again and again from American pov when there were so many different battles on so many fronts with so many different sides.

I mean haven't we already played these battles in a bazillion games already? If you are going to being back WW2 then atleast offer a theatre not seen before or not done as frequently. Pacific Front gets ignored unless it's a specific game solely focused on Pacific Front.
There's a whole generation of gamers who haven't played these battles in a billion games already. I've played them before, but I'm twice the age of someone who just turned old enough to buy an M-rated game.

And for a gamer like myself, I've never played any of this stuff with the level of fidelity possible with a modern COD budget on a PS4. The last WW2 game I played was COD2, an Xbox 360 launch title that didn't even look good for a 360 game.

When you're going "back to the roots", you go back to the classic stuff, you don't try to carve out unexplored territory. If this is a hit, that new territory comes with the sequel.
 

Guileless

Temp Banned for Remedial Purposes
Ok? What are you trying to say exactly? Soviets get the job done and stopped the Nazis.

Additional context for a very complex issue.

It is funny to see how the propaganda works though. In 1945 clear majority of the French thought that the Soviet Union had done the most to beat the Nazis, but by 2004 the opinion had flipped completely and majority thought the USA had done the most.

Soviet propaganda (and their useful idiots in the West) did its job too making people forget that the Soviet Union made a formal alliance with the Nazis to carve up Poland and to cover up the disastrous unpreparedness for the German invasion. A lot of the Soviet suffering in the war was self-inflicted and harmed the Allied war effort. The "done the most" question is apples and oranges. Each side made key contributions.

Edit: the French opinions aren't surprising considering the US is largely responsible for the liberation of France. Also, French memory of the war is largely based around the French Resistance, which worked with the US and UK to prepare the ground for the liberation.
 

DaciaJC

Gold Member
The Hürtgen Forest level is brand-new to any World War II game and it's actually one of the longest, singular conflicts in U.S. military history.

The Liberation of Paris and pushing into Germany are things that we've never seen before in a game - depending on the conflicts that they choose - but I agree with you, the Normandy invasion has me the most interested so far and my main interest is just to see how many NPC's they can have running around on-screen.

Hurtgen Forest was featured in CoD2. CoD: Finest Hour had a couple of missions depicting the capture of Aachen and the Remagen Bridge crossing the Rhine.
 

HiiiLife

Member
This turns my stomach. Just flat out the most offensive game I've ever seen.

I can name family members that died in this conflict, wept at the pictures and accounts of the dead and maimed that experienced this hell, was taught all the horrors of it from primary school, through my whole life, it's only ever been a symbol of the folly of war, the worst, most black and shameful era of European and American history. I've been to the actual battlefields and mass graves across Europe, held the minutes silence without fail every rememberence day my entire life, for as long as I could understand the meaning of it.

There was no glory in this war. No thrilling action or daring do, no heroes and villains, this was mass murder, a scar on the history of our species, and every single person involved in it was a victim.

This trailer, the entire concept of this game, makes me feel physically sick, and just so fucking angry.

How fucking dare anyone make a game like this about the Second World War.

I don't know what's worse, the sick fucking emotionless, greedy cunts that would seriously exploit this horror of an industrialised massacre, or the ignorant, soulless bastards that will give them money and enjoy it.

Anyone involved in this, or seriously think of buying this, should be ashamed of themselves.

Is this a gaf copypasta? Is so, yikes.
 

Calmine

Member
That's because Treyarch is the only CoD developer that gives a shit about PC.

Sledgehammer is probably the worst of the three. They were completely silent about the PC version prior to release and actively lied about the dedicated servers question. Advanced Warfare MP had no FoV option, no dedicated servers, no anti-cheat and the default mouse implementation used smoothing with no way to turn it off. Hacked lobbies and public cheats were rampant on the day of release. It's no surprise that it died less than a month later.

Urgghhh​ this really annoys me. It's the same engine so why does each dev handle the netcode differently?

If anything I'll get the PC version cheap for the campaign.
 
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