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Can we all agree now that both Deep Down and Panta Rhei are dead?
- Thread starter Son Of Sparda
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FunkyDealer
Banned
There's always PlayStation Meeting later this year!
And then there's always E3 next year!
And then there's always E3 next year!
GeordieMark
Member
Personally, I don't think this will ever see the light of day, and after the last showing it got, and the F2P revelation, I don't care. It never sounded great to me.
I think there could be a touch of Fable Legends about this. They were trying to build a F2P game with the graphics and production quality of a full-priced game, and its probably proved to be hugely expensive and difficult to support with the appropriate volume of content.
I think there could be a touch of Fable Legends about this. They were trying to build a F2P game with the graphics and production quality of a full-priced game, and its probably proved to be hugely expensive and difficult to support with the appropriate volume of content.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Well they showed pretty lengthy gameplay demos at subsequent events, so I don't think it's a stretch to believe it was an actual videogame in development.
The reveal trailer was bullshit though, obviously.
You wont get graphics like this even in the pro, what a decieving thing it was showing this at 2013 for the actual ps4.
Oh please. There's nothing unbelievable about those visuals. Have you seen the gameplay demos? We've had better looking games come out this generation. The only thing it has going for it is the lighting.
NinjaCoachZ
Member
If Agent gets re-revealed then for all intends and purposes it'll be a new game to many. Plus it's Rockstar. It at least has the potential to someday be revisited and have something going for it, even if I don't know it will.
If Deep Down ever comes out I think most people will be "finally" at most and be totally apathetic at worst. Even if the game does actually get released, I can't see it doing well. Will that really be worth it?
You wont get graphics like this even in the pro, what a decieving thing it was showing this at 2013 for the actual ps4.
You would, because it was running at 720p.
Talking about the tech demo while you are showing a gif from a gameplay video...
You wont get graphics like this even in the pro, what a decieving thing it was showing this at 2013 for the actual ps4.
What? Have you even read the thread? This was playable on PS4 at TGS in 2014.
Son Of Sparda
Member
That logic doesn't apply to Capcom unless they are still working on those DMC and DmC movies and (as Jaw mentioned) the DMC & RE PSP games.
I'm going to assume you chose the wrong gif.
ThomasAnderson
Member
Those visuals had me hyped but sadly it appears dead. Holding out hope it will be a PS5 launch title.
JuanLatino
Member
i remember the days when we had the same thread about The Last Guardian or Final Fantasy Versus 
You wont get graphics like this even in the pro, what a decieving thing it was showing this at 2013 for the actual ps4.
That is from a gameplay demo running on PS4.
AFAIK it was running at 720P/60FPS...nothing unusual about those visuals at that resolution and in a confined area like that.
NinjaCoachZ
Member
i remember the days when we had the same thread about The Last Guardian or Final Fantasy Versus
There are way more games that mysteriously vanished than just those two.
Those two games re-emerging after a long amount of time are the exception, not the norm. Especially with modern Capcom who've cancelled games for far less.
EDIT: Also FF Versus isn't the best example to compare to this. Versus was never 100% in development or had a publicly playable build at any point. It got repurposed in order to salvage the project and because starting an FFXV project from scratch would have been an unfeasible idea at the time.
This game and its engine WERE in development, were playable at TGS, and that development doesn't seem to have gone well since Capcom have totally jumped ship from its engine.
Square Enix also jumped ship from Luminous but the main game they were working on with it (XIII) managed to come out in approximately the length of time since we first saw Deep Down, and didn't mysteriously vanish a year and a half after E3 2006.
Triggerhappytel
Member
I think if this doesn't show up at PSX next month it's well and truly deceased. Shame, as I really liked the idea and the visuals were fantastic (even if that first trailer was total bullshottery).
It's not showing up at PSX.
StrongBelwas
Banned
I wouldn't be surprised if this resurfaces in a few years. They have probably abandoned the ftp model and reworking it into capcom souls game.
At least that's what I hope lol.
At least that's what I hope lol.
sixteen-bit
Member
Or maybe a Dragons Dogma spinoff
John Kowalski
Banned
Deep down we all know it.
TheVoidDragon
Member
Deep down looked pretty good, it's a shame it's probably not going to happen. Didn't they say a while back it was still being worked on or something like that?
Spiritwalker
Member
I hope not. Looked fucking amazing.
Whompa02
Member
You wont get graphics like this even in the pro, what a decieving thing it was showing this at 2013 for the actual ps4.
You underestimate rendering. When you're in a cave and you only have a little bit to render, you can make the models pretty high quality.
Look at most of the Deep Down videos that were released. The game had at most around 4 monsters on screen, with deceptively simple backgrounds.
The Order 1886 looked great for what it was and that has way more going on.
LiveFromKyoto
Member
I for one find it fishy that 87% of GAF hates The Order, and yet seemingly 97% have never played it. Because it beats the pants off these supposedly impossible visuals.
Crossing Eden
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Given what we know about the console and how it struggles with intensive particle effects you really think this was possible at 1080/60fps with four player co-op?
AwakenedCloud
Member
Given what we know about the console and how it struggles with intensive particle effects you really think this was possible at 1080/60fps with four player co-op?
Wait... They were suggesting you could do split screen on this? That's ludicrous.
I remember people here suggesting that DD graphics would be the norm for games outside of the launch window.
Zomba13
Member
I think that is just showing the four points of view in a video, not showing split screen. Like, it's showing this is what each player is looking at at this point in time.
Given what we know about the console and how it struggles with intensive particle effects you really think this was possible at 1080/60fps with four player co-op?
Which has absolutely zero to do with whether it was possible or not. What you're posting was playable at TGS. Whether it would run at your suggested fidelity now is an entirely different debate.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
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JimmyRustler
Gold Member
No wonder Capcom is only doing small budget games and remasters by now. They must have sunk a fortune in that fucking engine/game.
Hope they learned their lesson from this.
Hope they learned their lesson from this.
LordBaztion
Member
For what purpose capcom wants a current gen engine, they barely release new games
I'm not entirely ready to say that. Deep Down undoubtedly has a troubled development, but its status as a service-game still makes it something that fits well with Capcom's current strategy. It's probably been rebooted internally multiple times now, but we could still see it at some point.
Well maybe their huge expesnsive "next-gen" engine failing has something to do with that.
SJRB
Gold Member
...don't get your hopes up.
Panta Rhei and Deep Down probably helped, but they suffered a major blow thanks to the quintuple whammy of Dragon's Dogma, SFxT, RE6, DmC, and Lost Planet 3 all underperforming.
They want a current gen engine to develop current gen games. MT Framework is only being used for last gen ports and smaller titles. While they haven't released many current console titles that aren't also cross gen, they have DR3 and SFV, and are releasing DR4 and RE7 in two months, with RE2 Remake and likely DMC5 in development.
They have one current gen engine now with the RE Engine, which is based on MT Framework and probably borrowed some tech from Panta Rhei.
Mega Man begs to differ.