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Cavaliers have traded Kyrie Irving for Isaiah Thomas, Jae Crowder, Ante Žiži, & pick

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BlackGhost

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Tall4Life said:
Ok, that's fair, but it's not fair to do our boy IT like this and ruin our trade. Tell the Cav front office to cool it pls
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We're not doing anything to IT, he's a future Cav legend. I look forward to seeing him in a Cavs uni. ....
. right next to Tatum, we'll settle for more picks :) but really don't see this whole thing falling apart
 
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Bread

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I honestly think he could come back because the fans here will love him more than they would anywhere else.
 
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BlackGhost

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Bread said:
I honestly think he could come back because the fans here will love him more than they would anywhere else.
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1. I know you're drinking the alcohol
2. Idk it appears he's pretty hurt by the situation, wouldn't blame him for not wanting to go back. I've seen him like some tweets about the situation. Idk why Tall had to burn his IT jersey like that
 
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spyder_ur

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LyleLanley said:
Gotta feel bad for IT getting his value just murdered by these stories.
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I do, this really really sucks for him, through no fault of his own. He and Altman are the big losers if this is pulled back - it seems like amateur hour in Cleveland this summer for a team contending for a title.
 
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Raylan Targaryen

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Bread said:
Lol they didn't talk shit about him, give me a break.
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weird how teammates had a problem with him after being traded. never was a thing before the many teams he got traded from or even during his playing time with the celtics.

gets traded from boston and an hour later he supposedly rubbed teammates the wrong way.
 
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Sanjuro

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Roches said:
weird how teammates had a problem with him after being traded. never was a thing before the many teams he got traded from or even during his playing time with the celtics.

gets traded from boston and an hour later he supposedly rubbed teammates the wrong way.
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Weird how the team has been blown up gud.
 
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ryseing

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TraBuch said:
In reality, none of those options includes anything as valuable as the Nets pick.
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Phoenix will likely have better lotto odds than the Nets due to playing in the West, even with Kyrie. They'd still be a piece away.

Also, as mentioned, ton of young talent the Cavs can choose from.

LyleLanley said:
The suns could make an offer that would beat the C's in my opinion. Bledsoe, Jackson and any of their young bigs would be enticing.
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Exactly. Next year's 1st, Bledsoe, and Jackson/Chriss would get it done.
 
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NervousXtian

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LyleLanley said:
Seriously, Stephen A is the only one claiming this and everyone just believes him for some reason.
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..and which of the 4 guys left on the team were talking that shit?

I mean hardly anyone is around anymore.. like it even matters.

If he has to go back, he'll make do... it's a contract year.. he's going to try and play his ass off when he can get on the court.
 
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Dynomutt

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Randolph Freelander said:
Cleveland should forget the injured Thomas and trade Kyrie to Phoenix for Brandon Knight.
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No.
 
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Duxxy3

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gary washburn‏Verified account @GwashburnGlobe

Hearing the #Celtics weren't pleased with #Cavs coming back on trade and requesting compensation. May take hard line stance.
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Good. If they don't like the deal, they can look elsewhere.
 
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Sanjuro

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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20501325/isaiah-thomas-says-return-hip-injury-same-player

All-Star guard Isaiah Thomas told ESPN that he has made significant progress with his injured hip toward a return in the 2017-18 season and has a message for NBA teams doubting his long-term prognosis.

"I am not damaged," Thomas told ESPN on Tuesday. "I'll be back, and I'll be the same player."

Thomas, a second-team All-NBA player for the Boston Celtics, was included in a trade to Cleveland for four-time All-Star Kyrie Irving on Aug. 22, but uncertainty surrounding his anticipated return to the court has stalled the finalizing of the deal.

Cleveland and Boston officials started to engage each other on a solution Tuesday, league sources told ESPN. The Cavs are no longer seeking one of the Celtics' top young players, but they are still determined to land one of Boston's first-round picks as compensation, and the conversation has included second-round considerations, too, league sources said.

The deadline to report and submit to a physical for the players involved in the trade is 10 a.m. ET Wednesday, and the deadline to pass the physical is 10 a.m. ET Thursday, per league rules.

In an interview with ESPN on Tuesday afternoon, Thomas was forceful in his belief that the labrum injury that ended his season in the Eastern Conference finals against Cleveland would not have a long-term impact on his career.

"There's never been an indication that I wouldn't be back, and there's never been an indication that this is something messing up my career," Thomas told ESPN. "Maybe I am not going to be back as soon this season as everyone wants me to be, but I'm going to be back, and I'm going to be the same player again. No doctor has told me anything different than that."

Thomas, 28, is entering the final year of his contract and has been expected to be in line for a $100 million-plus contract in free agency. He had the best season of his career in 2016-17, averaging 28.9 points per game. In his three seasons with the Celtics, Thomas emerged as one of the NBA's elite guards. He was named an Eastern Conference All-Star twice.

"I haven't had one doctor tell me that this injury is going to hurt my career," Thomas said. "Surgery was not the best option in this case. I aggravated it in March when [Minnesota's] Karl-Anthony Towns fell on me. I kept playing on it and making it worse -- until I couldn't play anymore last season."

The Celtics and Cavaliers agreed on a deal to send Irving to Boston for Thomas, forward Jae Crowder, center Ante Zizic and a 2018 unprotected first-round pick via the Brooklyn Nets.

Thomas said he has been in consistent contact with Cavaliers officials since his physical Friday in Cleveland.

"I don't know what [the organization] is doing," Thomas told ESPN. "It's out of my control. I just want to talk about what I can control, and I know that this [hip] won't be a problem into the future."

Thomas did not yet want to speak about the emotions of a possible departure from Boston or arrival in Cleveland. He has been consulting with renowned hip specialist Dr. Bryan Kelly of the Hospital for Special Surgery in New York.

"He told me, 'I have seen hips worse than yours with guys who played at a high level and had great careers,'" Thomas told ESPN. "At the moment, yes, I am injured, but I have made progress from May."

Because Thomas is in the final year of his contract -- which coincides with James' opt-out next summer -- Cleveland has an urgency to get Thomas on the court this season.

Ever since Thomas' physical with the Cavaliers on Friday, there has been significant uncertainty within the organization about when -- or if -- Thomas could play this season, league sources told ESPN. Those doubts led to Cleveland seeking additional compensation from the Celtics.

All along, Boston has believed that it was clear in its assessment of Thomas' physical status and that the information was communicated to the Cavaliers in conversations before Tuesday's trade, league sources said. In a telephone conference call with reporters after the trade was announced, Celtics general manager Danny Ainge admitted that Thomas' physical condition played "some" role in trading him to Cleveland as part of the Irving package.

Cavaliers officials have made the case that Boston undersold them on the scope of the Thomas injury, and more specifically, how soon Thomas could be prepared to play this season, league sources said. The sides did discuss and share information on Thomas' injury, sources said.

Cleveland had significantly valued the 2018 Nets pick in the trade, and Boston believed it allowed for Thomas' physical uncertainty in the current terms of the deal, league sources said.
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boiled goose

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Boston has the leverage, not Cleveland. Their only mistake was making everything public before trade was final.

Sure IT and Crowder will be butthurt if they have to come back, but they are professionals and play to get paid. You play hard one year in Boston to get a good offer elsewhere.
 
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Sho_Nuff82

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WoJ is reporting that Cleveland blinked, and is no longer demanding another rotation player or high pick.

Cs might throw in a second rounder but that's about it. Cavs threw shade on an incoming player and basically got squat for it, nice try though.
 
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Sho_Nuff82

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JCizzle said:
lololol all this for a 2nd rounder in 3 years. As stated, the Cavs GM comes out of this looking like a chump after he nailed the initial trade. It was always about that BKN pick
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It really just seems like they were fronting for nothing, hoping that Ainge would blink on the 2019 Sac/LAL/Phi pick.

The trade is the same as before, now with a week-old cherry on top.
 
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darkside31337

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JCizzle said:
lololol all this for a 2nd rounder in 3 years. As stated, the Cavs GM comes out of this looking like a chump after he nailed the initial trade. It was always about that BKN pick
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He swindled them to begin with and then got another freebie pick on top of it for all of this garbage. Its a cherry on top.
 
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JCizzle

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darkside31337 said:
He swindled them to begin with and then got another freebie pick on top of it for all of this garbage. Its a cherry on top.
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After he made a gigantic shitstorm out of it and leaked enough innuendo to make it seem like IT will never walk again. His reputation is going to take a bigger hit around the league than a 2nd rounder is worth. He won the trade without going through this, should have just taken the W and called it a day. It doesnt matter to them if IT plays a single game, be real...they won a shot at Bagley and that's the prize.
 
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