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[Michan]

It is rare to find very good music people in Rare nowadays. Rare names, Rare people.

They still have talent. But Beanland, Kirkhope, and Wise gave the whole department fantastic direction. Kirkhope's leave was a hit, but from what we know, this is the last straw for Rare's inspiring music, which is an awful shame.

 

[MirageDwarf]

One more hint that Rare is too busy with Natal shovelware.

 

[ItAintEasyBeinCheesy]

What about teh Natal!?

 

[Neo Samus]

Good luck to you Dave. Your music was always so soothing to me.

 

[FateBreaker]

Meh, they already lost Grant Kirkhope, who was the real maestro.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQnMMElIFh0&feature=related

ENTRENCHED IN MY BRAIN FOREVER

David Wise is the best. DKC is unrivaled.

 

[Jangaroo]

This is terrible news. I loved his work in DKC 1&2.

 

[TreIII]

He conducted a lot of the great tracks that made up the Battetoads series too.

But all the same...this just does more to showcase how the Rare of today ain't quite f0cking it right. They haven't been doing it for a while now.

 

[speedpop]

He also did the supreme Diddy Kong Racing soundtrack. I'm not a huge fan of the DKC games, but even I acknowledge how profound their soundtracks are - specifically DKC 1 & 2.

I hope he goes freelance and continues to pump out some awesome tunes for games.

 

[jett]

Yeah David Wise deserves better than to work on RARE games. I wish him the best.

Meh, they already lost Grant Kirkhope, who was the real maestro.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQnMMElIFh0&feature=related

ENTRENCHED IN MY BRAIN FOREVER

lol.

 

[Dead Prince]

Wisecracks aren't funny outside of OT.

It's not that rare to see it though.

 

[Kibbles]

Microsoft dropped the ball with Rare... =( They could've made another studio or something to do the lame shit Rare is doing now with Avatars and Natal minigames.

 

[Sydle]

David Wise is the best. DKC is unrivaled.

This.

I'm getting concerned about where Rare is going.

 

[speedpop]

Damn two pages and not a single mention of Aquatic Ambience? Dropping the ball GAF.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D65TT5Ieb4M

 

[evilromero]

This.

I'm getting concerned about where Rare is going.

They still have Beanland who is a huge talent, as well as David Clynick. And most of all Gregg Mayles is still a strong creative force on the development side. But yeah. It's pretty damn bleak with no Burke or Wise.

 

[Celery&Lager]

Good for him! My first console game I bought was DKC1 and I was blown away by the music even more than the graphics. Good luck to whatever he does next.

 

[grandjedi6]

Urrgg, I'm starting to get real worried about the direction Rare is taking. :/

Can I blame this on Molyneux?

 

[Owzers]

Microsoft dropped the ball with Rare... =( They could've made another studio or something to do the lame shit Rare is doing now with Avatars and Natal minigames.

Microsoft dropped the ball with EVERY first party studio right now, namely the few they have left.

 

[Azure J]

Urrgg, I'm starting to get real worried about the direction Rare is taking. :/

Can I blame this on Molyneux?

In all seriousness I just want one question answered. Did Rare fail Microsoft or did Microsoft fail Rare?

 

[Bebpo]

So...no Kameo 2?

 

[evilromero]

In all seriousness I just want one question answered. Did Rare fail Microsoft or did Microsoft fail Rare?

Neither. Without Nintendo's guidance Rare was left to their own devices- hence the horribly cluttered menus in Pinata and Nuts & Bolts.

 

[speedpop]

In all seriousness I just want one question answered. Did Rare fail Microsoft or did Microsoft fail Rare?

I think that is best saved for a huge debate thread because in all honesty it has affected a lot of Western gamers who grew up playing their games.

 

[Owzers]

In all seriousness I just want one question answered. Did Rare fail Microsoft or did Microsoft fail Rare?

Both i'd say.

 

[Monty Mole]

It's a shame Rare couldn't be successful after the N64. So much talent wasted.

Steve Burke did one of my favourite videogame soundtracks of all time for Kameo.

 

[SupraDarky]

Anyone knows what happened to Eveline Fischer? She composed some great tracks for DKC and DKC3. She's quite underrated.

 

[jett]

Neither. Without Nintendo's guidance Rare was left to their own devices- hence the horribly cluttered menus in Pinata and Nuts & Bolts.

Eh? Pre-DKC RARE is awesome.

 

[Flakster99]

Damn two pages and not a single mention of Aquatic Ambience? Dropping the ball GAF.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D65TT5Ieb4M

Yes, I can safetely state this is still my favorite track of all time.
It is THE most amaizing song to ever grace these ears. Pure ecstasy.
The tune never, ever gets old, and I will continue listening to this masterpiece until the end of time. <3

/salute David Wise

Eh? Pre-DKC RARE is awesome.

Fucken' A!

 

[HUELEN10]

You know, as far as his music goes, my favorite tunes are some that most of you haven't even heard...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cevlCkU8wJU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zHonusQ-Rs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JkH6Yhqal8
As far as I'm concerned, David Wise=DKC3. Mr. Wise, I wish you luck in your future endeavors, and may you have the chance to make songs like these once again...

 

[grandjedi6]

In all seriousness I just want one question answered. Did Rare fail Microsoft or did Microsoft fail Rare?

ACES Game Studio - DEAD

Ensemble Studios - DEAD

Digital Anvil - DEAD

Hired Gun - DEAD

FASA Studio - DEAD

Indie Built - DEAD

Carbonated Games - DEAD

Wingnut Interactive - Basically DEAD

Mistwalker - Give It Another Year

Bungie - Running Away As Fast As They Can

Rare - Not Looking Too Good

Lionhead Studios - Fate Worse Than Death: Stuck With Molyneux

Xbox Live Productions - As Doomed as Carbonated Games

Turn 10 - It's Inevitable, Isn't It?

 

[evilromero]

Eh? Pre-DKC RARE is awesome.

I agree but those were simpler times, the Stampers were more involved and to be fair Rare pumped out a lot of shit between the Battletoads and RC Pro-Ams.

 

[Monty Mole]

ACES Game Studio - DEAD

Ensemble Studios - DEAD

Digital Anvil - DEAD

Hired Gun - DEAD

FASA Studio - DEAD

Indie Built - DEAD

Carbonated Games - DEAD

Wingnut Interactive - Basically DEAD

Mistwalker - Give It Another Year

Bungie - Running Away As Fast As They Can

Rare - Not Looking Too Good

Lionhead Studios - Fate Worse Than Death: Stuck With Molyneux

Xbox Live Productions - As Doomed as Carbonated Games

Turn 10 - It's Inevitable, Isn't It?

Well, when you put it like that...

Pretty shocking really. Although I don't see Turn 10 or Lionhead going anywhere. Turn 10 being formed from the ground up and the Molinator loving the Micro$$$.

Will be interesting to see how the new internal Halo studio etc fare. Also how their relationship with Epic pans out across the next gen.

 

[jett]

You know, as far as his music goes, my favorite tunes are some that most of you haven't even heard...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cevlCkU8wJU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zHonusQ-Rs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JkH6Yhqal8
As far as I'm concerned, David Wise=DKC3. Mr. Wise, I wish you luck in your future endeavors, and may you have the chance to make songs like these once again...

Yeah there's some really good stuff in DKC4gba, unfortunately limited by the crap output of that console.

To be honest it's a complete and utter shame that Rare relegated Dave to composing to handhelds only for the better part of this decade.

 

[TreIII]

ACES Game Studio - DEAD

Ensemble Studios - DEAD

Digital Anvil - DEAD

Hired Gun - DEAD

FASA Studio - DEAD

Indie Built - DEAD

Carbonated Games - DEAD

Wingnut Interactive - Basically DEAD

Mistwalker - Give It Another Year

Bungie - Running Away As Fast As They Can

Rare - Not Looking Too Good

Lionhead Studios - Fate Worse Than Death: Stuck With Molyneux

Xbox Live Productions - As Doomed as Carbonated Games

Turn 10 - It's Inevitable, Isn't It?

Gyat dammit, I did NOT need to see that. :lol

<--- *still is quite salty about what happened to FASA, and the fact that MW ain't looking too good hurts, as well*

 

[Tomasooie]

They still have Beanland who is a huge talent, as well as David Clynick. And most of all Gregg Mayles is still a strong creative force on the development side. But yeah. It's pretty damn bleak with no Burke or Wise.

Eh, Clynick's work on Perfect Dark Zero was pretty forgettable, especially when compared to the original, which he worked on with Grant Kirkhope.

Anyway, this is a huge blow to Rare and their fans. David Wise is up there as one of my favorite composers, period. But it may actually be for the best, to him and the people who want to hear new music from him -- he hasn't had anything new on a console game since Starfox Adventures on the GameCube.

One of the elements that really MADE Rare's games has always been the music. With two of their best composers gone, the future looks bleak...

 

[Kifimbo]

ACES Game Studio - DEAD

Ensemble Studios - DEAD

Digital Anvil - DEAD

Hired Gun - DEAD

FASA Studio - DEAD

Indie Built - DEAD

Carbonated Games - DEAD

Wingnut Interactive - Basically DEAD

Mistwalker - Give It Another Year

Bungie - Running Away As Fast As They Can

Rare - Not Looking Too Good

Lionhead Studios - Fate Worse Than Death: Stuck With Molyneux

Xbox Live Productions - As Doomed as Carbonated Games

Turn 10 - It's Inevitable, Isn't It?

It's a different situation, but you could add Bizarre Creations to that list. I remember Bizarre weren't happy at all about PGR4 release.

 

[Nemo]

We should make an awesome 2D game and hire this man

 

[xbhaskarx]

What the hell is going on over at Microsoft's studios in the last year or so...
The thing that doesn't make sense is that Microsoft is one of the few companies with the cash to weather the current economic crisis, so that can't really be the reason for all of this.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

I was going to be annoyed until I realised he pretty much hasn't done anything for 7 years.

 

[jett]

I was going to be annoyed until I realised he pretty much hasn't done anything for 7 years.

That is Rare's fault.

 

[Nekofrog]

For all you David Wise fans, it was recently announced that David Wise is working with OverClocked Remix for the Donkey Kong Country 2 remix album. He's doing a track with Greg Kirkhope and Robin Beanland.

http://ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=15004

The project will be coming out in December, so look out for it.

And for my track on it

 

[Ad Infinitum]

Whilst we're on the subject of Rare employees, anyone know if Wil Overton is still there?

Don't you effing forget- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce_l_YX_MUg

I HATED that stock children laughter clip at the start but it was never enough to stop me smiling like an idiot every time I booted diddy kong racing up. ahhhh, nostalgia.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Wise choice.

Don't be such a Wise guy.

 

[Azure Dream]

Don't you effing forget- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce_l_YX_MUg

But I thought it sounded like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQpwvrFFcGw

This is a big loss for Rare, but it'll be interesting to see where he goes next.

 

[jett]

For all you David Wise fans, it was recently announced that David Wise is working with OverClocked Remix for the Donkey Kong Country 2 remix album. He's doing a track with Greg Kirkhope and Robin Beanland.

http://ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=15004

The project will be coming out in December, so look out for it.

And for my track on it

First I was all AW YEAH then I saw what track he was working on. Could still be good I guess.

 

[whitehawk]

First I was all AW YEAH then I saw what track he was working on. Could still be good I guess.

Ya. Should have been Stickerbush Symphony or Snakey Chantey

 

[Shadowlink]

So everyone who was involved with the DKC OST left Rare?

 

[cabel]

"I think the business of Rare has changed a great deal, and at the moment there is just not the opportunity to create the soundtracks that Rare were fortunately very famous for."

That quote is a punch to the gut.

Translation: no grand epics, no sweeping adventures, no stunning vistas or comedy cutscenes.

Just short, casual games with elevator music in the menus.

R.I.P. RARE. <IMG SRC="SADCRY.GIF

 

[Haunted]

ACES Game Studio - DEAD

Ensemble Studios - DEAD

Digital Anvil - DEAD

Hired Gun - DEAD

FASA Studio - DEAD

Indie Built - DEAD

Carbonated Games - DEAD

Wingnut Interactive - Basically DEAD

Mistwalker - Give It Another Year

Bungie - Running Away As Fast As They Can

Rare - Not Looking Too Good

Lionhead Studios - Fate Worse Than Death: Stuck With Molyneux

Xbox Live Productions - As Doomed as Carbonated Games

Turn 10 - It's Inevitable, Isn't It?

Mistwalker and Turn 10 are still quality! The other 12 studios, though... yeah.

:/

The other

 

[Cindres]

Make the games you used to make, and get some Grant Kirkhope back up in this bitch!

 

[louis89]

Whilst we're on the subject of Rare employees, anyone know if Wil Overton is still there?

Haven't heard that name in a while. I remember reading N64 Magazine as a kid when he was one of the writers... holy shit with all these Youtube clips this thread is bringing back my childhood so much ;_;

Edit: According to Wikipedia he's still there. Here's his site.

 

[Shawsie64]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67nkzoJ_2M

Fucking amazing song