CosmicQueso
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Such heavy use of the term "narrative" implies that there is some kind of conspiracy going on.
Which is just ridiculous.
Which is just ridiculous.
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Destiny - Review Thread
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I don't care for Angry Joe but I suppose I should see what the praise is all about. I'll make some time to watch it after work.
His review is spot on. He likes the game like us but he also points out every annoying stupid thing we hate about the game. Even if you enjoy the game,, you will agree with him about the complaints.
Anton Sugar
Member
Oh.
Well, that's disappointing. Outside of the carrot-game they're playing with DLC, I was really hoping for some meat to the story with her missions.
Her section in the story is easily the most fleshed out and well-presented compared to the rest. I was hoping to get more of that.
tfur
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That tweet.
As if the raid is any better.
It is the same repetitive bullshit.
Shoot sponge (that is in the same location),
teleport,
shoot more AI (that is in the same location),
go back through portal,
shoot more AI (that is in the same location),
goto Shoot sponge.
EVERYTHING repeats in the game world.
All AI re-spawns, and in the same location.
Almost all missions are the same setup. Attack, hack, defend, attack, repeat.
The game needed at least another year or two to bake, and certainly much more and better refined content.
As if the raid is any better.
It is the same repetitive bullshit.
Shoot sponge (that is in the same location),
teleport,
shoot more AI (that is in the same location),
go back through portal,
shoot more AI (that is in the same location),
goto Shoot sponge.
EVERYTHING repeats in the game world.
All AI re-spawns, and in the same location.
Almost all missions are the same setup. Attack, hack, defend, attack, repeat.
The game needed at least another year or two to bake, and certainly much more and better refined content.
NullPointer
Member
Dinklespark is the Darkness.
Evidence:
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* Practitioner of Necromancy.
* Primary skills include breaking and entering, illegal decryption, data theft and spying through cracks in the ground.
* Detects Vex have you surrounded when you first enter the library on Venus - then asks you to scan something in the middle of the room for no good reason.
* Just happens to activate every nearby Vex transport gateway as you enter Campus 9.
* Is always fiddling with comms just before the fire team is ambushed. Always.
* Is always done fiddling with comms just as the last major enemy is defeated. Convenient.
You know it in your heart that its true.
breakfuss
Member
To be fair, it does introduce a few new mechanics post-lvl 20. Content wise, yes, it does appear to be the same. That's why I like PvP the most since the novelty of playing with others always offers something fresh. Sad part is that I'm sure most didn't buy it with the intention of playing competitively.
Btw, as cliched as it's become to say, this thread has been more entertaining than the game, lol.
PrivateWHudson
Member
LOL...Even better than Dinklebot.
Yea, no worries. He's pretty fair about it and points out the good as well as the bad. He's basically GAF incarnate, imo
FunkyPajamas
Member
Now that I think about it, I don't know that anybody's seen Dinkleboot and The Darkness at the same time. Hmmm.
With all this talk of light and darkness going around, I think I want Sora, Donald and Goofy on my fireteam instead of anyone in the |OT|.
FunkyPajamas
Member
You have to add them to your friends list first though.
This is the best they could do?
It's amazing how pathetic some stuff is in this game.
Messofanego
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Diablo 3's story is just as pointless as Destiny's. If anyone bought either game for a "story" then I feel sorry for them. The only reason Diablo 3 wins the story argument in my book is because you can skip the cutscenes. Hopefully Bungie patches in that option.
But titanfall was really good. It had revolutionary mechanics tied to unfortunately zero content.
Memes, narratives, and nanomachines. They're responsible for everything.
Yeah I liked the game but it def launched bare boned and failed because of that
TitanFall needed a campaign. Altho I guess it's not that much different than Destiny. Destiny had some cutscenes which were as bad as Titanfall's' PiP shit.
The cutscenes likely disguise loading times so I'm not sure if that's an option.
TheCanisDirus
Member
X2. And it was honest with itself in what it was. Just needed(s) much more content. (And less Titan IMHO)
And comparatively, Respawned promised much less compared to Bungie and Destiny
NullPointer
Member
But they take place *after* load times. I guess there are a few that happen in the world too.
But the reef cinematic isn't skippable, nor are the credits.
I didn't try to skip the one in the Reef because I got excited about new characters and potential plot development.
What a silly thing for past me to do.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Would a campaign have made it stickier? I love Titanfall and would still be playing it if it weren't for all the technical problems that I am having.
Perhaps the one problem that Titanfall has is that it's "too easy" to progress up the skill tree. I appreciate it because I don't want to play for 50 hours just to get the gun I want to use, but it also isn't as immediately addictive as the CoD games and the "chase the dragon" aspect of grinding there.
It's strange that you can load your inventory and manage your stuff as the cutscene is playing. I don't really understand the rationale.
NullPointer
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My group also refers to Sepkis Prime as the Painus.
MMaRsu
Banned
Lol what cutscenes, you mean the three they actually bothered to put in?
Death Metalist
Member
Plus it was Respawn's first game besides making COD back when they were at IW. Whereas Bungie made Minotaur, Myth, Marathon Trilogy, Oni, Halo 1, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo:Reach, Halo: ODST and this is the best they could come up with?
Anton Sugar
Member
Arrogant Bungie, Halo is still going and the further away they are from it the better.
I agree whole-heartedly with this.
I know this has been said basically before, but the Destiny fallout has pretty much has proven to me Bungie had gotten bored by Halo and that Bungie in 2014 is NOT Bungie of 2004. What happened to you Bungie?
It's like it was reviewed by someone who actually spent time playing the game rather than rushing through it to be the first to review it right?
A statement so vague it could be applied to any journalist playing any game. Destiny is not somehow a unique snowflake just because the only thing that really tests you is the raid.
NullPointer
Member
That Kotaku review reads more like a loot cave addict's confession.
And yeah, I guess that's an appropriate frame.
You'll never see me farming - if a game reaches the point where I feel compelled to do something like that then the game has entirely worn out its welcome. At that point the end-game really does mean where the game ends.
And yeah, I guess that's an appropriate frame.
You'll never see me farming - if a game reaches the point where I feel compelled to do something like that then the game has entirely worn out its welcome. At that point the end-game really does mean where the game ends.
SEGAvangelist
Member
That's the best Destiny review I've read.
I guess you can tell what I've been doing. I'm having loot cave daydreams at work right now.
NullPointer
Member
Yea, but this stick sure looks like a carrot at a distance.
My first post here...so here we go.
Everyone says the game is bad because it doesn’t have "enough content" yet those same people complain about "Bloat" in games and say that they have too many weapons that are the same, to many gimmicks, etc. Titanfall is all about the gameplay just like the Halo, Quake, Doom, Tribes, CS, etc. You don't see people lamenting that CS only has a few weapons now do you? That's because the gameplay is fucking good.
Respawn made the game with 64 employee’s (standard dev team has 200+ people), under constant stress from the Activision lawsuit, and literally ran out out money halfway through development, and still ended up creating a game that sold millions. They had to scrap a lot of things to even get the game shipped. If they'd had more money and less pressure from activision they'd have had a lot more modes and even a single player but they had to scrap it. http://www.joystiq.com/2014/04/17/behind-the-scenes-final-hours-of-titanfall-app-now-available/
Bungie never had any issue with money, at all. They have over 500 employee’s, they didn't have to deal with a lawsuit, they didn't have to convince people that their company could make good games, they didn't have any issue that the Respawn guys had. What’s their excuse for not having custom games and everything else? What' their excuse for empty worlds? Piss poor social features?
And you know what else? There’s not a single thing Respawn ever said that misrepresented their game. They never mislead people about what was in it or what the game was about at any point. It was always a multiplayer game with some game mode that had people talking. They never said their story would be compared to star wars.
So when Titanfall got amazing scores, it got them because it did everything it set out to do. Destiny got average scores because it didn't.
I really hate it when people talk about Titanfall and Destiny in the same sentence.
Everyone says the game is bad because it doesn’t have "enough content" yet those same people complain about "Bloat" in games and say that they have too many weapons that are the same, to many gimmicks, etc. Titanfall is all about the gameplay just like the Halo, Quake, Doom, Tribes, CS, etc. You don't see people lamenting that CS only has a few weapons now do you? That's because the gameplay is fucking good.
Respawn made the game with 64 employee’s (standard dev team has 200+ people), under constant stress from the Activision lawsuit, and literally ran out out money halfway through development, and still ended up creating a game that sold millions. They had to scrap a lot of things to even get the game shipped. If they'd had more money and less pressure from activision they'd have had a lot more modes and even a single player but they had to scrap it. http://www.joystiq.com/2014/04/17/behind-the-scenes-final-hours-of-titanfall-app-now-available/
Bungie never had any issue with money, at all. They have over 500 employee’s, they didn't have to deal with a lawsuit, they didn't have to convince people that their company could make good games, they didn't have any issue that the Respawn guys had. What’s their excuse for not having custom games and everything else? What' their excuse for empty worlds? Piss poor social features?
And you know what else? There’s not a single thing Respawn ever said that misrepresented their game. They never mislead people about what was in it or what the game was about at any point. It was always a multiplayer game with some game mode that had people talking. They never said their story would be compared to star wars.
So when Titanfall got amazing scores, it got them because it did everything it set out to do. Destiny got average scores because it didn't.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Save them for the weekend.
Loot Cave looks like Uncle Scrooge's money pit from a distance. It's so beautiful.
The other thing people don't seem to consider is that by nature of being a multiplayer focused game, players will generally attempt to commit the content to memory. A fighting game with 1000 characters probably wouldn't actually benefit from it if it meant 6 months down the line you were still getting lamed out by shit you'd never seen before. Similarly, competitive FPS games with loads of maps (think Quake or UT) tend to have the community converge around a handful of stronger maps, forming a standard. This allows people to learn the layouts, and where items and such are located, in order to play the game with a higher level of strategy. Being lost and walking around aimlessly doesn't really help these types of games.
When your game is about exploring new worlds, and fighting AI enemies (which let's face it, once you've beaten them once, they're basically useless), it sure as hell better have more unique content for me to experience. Playing Vertical Vengeance or Deck-16 for the 5000th time was still great. I'll be damned if I want to do the same with a random Spartan Ops mission.
Save them for the weekend.
Loot Cave looks like Uncle Scrooge's money pit from a distance. It's so beautiful.
Oh, you mean that I can buy stuff from Xür with them?
breakfuss
Member
Preach. The comparisons to other games are so asinine. As if Candy Crush should somehow be penalized for having less "ambition" than Destiny. Well, helllllllo, they're two entirely different games with different objectives. This is about execution. Maybe people keep using Titanfall because it's a shooter? Idk. Oh, and welcome.
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That kotaku review is fantastic. Arguably the best I've read. I guess if you're going to be that late at least do it right, lol. I understand their reasoning for not assigning a number score but still disagree, though.
I would have put a "Maybe" or "Wait" on their one-word review thing, considering the amount of negatives they cited and that their review is likely for more skeptical people who waited for the impressions anyway.
NullPointer
Member
Yeah.
Its like a long form article that spells out all the dangers of heroin abuse, and yet still leads with "YES, you should totally do some heroin. Feels soooooooooooo good".
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