That's an excellent metric! I'm gonna start using that from now onMoney stops giving you happiness when it's no longer removing stress
There's countless studies about this.
you say that he has time and money, but that doesn't matter if his mindset isn't set on improvement.
I also find the money brute force argument to be kinda ridiculous. when depressed you will be limited by energy. each failure will set you back hugely, especially so emotionally. so unless you find the right person to help you within the first few tries it's likely you just give up.
the idea that a depressed person could keep doing research on treatments and travel around seeing these professionals until they find success like some sort of self-entrepreneur doesn't reflect reality at all in my opinion.
it's because stuff like that is similar to kids on facebook posting a picture of themselves crying and saying stuff like "life sucks, omg"
Really sorry, but I can't help fucking first world problems. He is rich, has no worries..
Pretty disappointed with a lot of the juvenile responses in here and elsewhere, showcasing a fairly unprecedented and frankly unwarranted apathy and at times hostility towards a person's wellbeing simply because of their perceived fame and wealth. It's not about trying to diagnose him with a form of depression from your armchair (which is also foolishly reactionary). It's simply about having a modicum of empathy for another human being and the realities of wealth and power and the irrefutable fact these are not flawless conduits to perfectly happy life, and that a person's life and state of happiness can be influenced both positively and negatively by extreme surges in wealth and fame.
It's just a dude expressing reasonable (and hardly original) frustrations at where he's at in life due to his wealth and status relative to his social life and the difficulties this has introduced. The idea that the wealthy, extremely wealthy even, have no right to frustration or feeling depressed about these changes and difficulties is just absurd.
By the same leap of logic nobody in a developed Western country has the right to feel depressed. Why should I care if you're living paycheque to paycheque and couldn't go out for beers this weekend? Why should I care about your apparent financial hardships when your country, in most cases, does offer some form of financial and/or housing and/or food support in the most extreme situations? You're still, comparatively to the rest of the world, in the more wealthy, better off economic and lifestyle brackets. You don't know what full poverty and survivalism is. Got a TV? A computer? A phone? Fuck you, you really don't know how well you have it.
Yet I can muster genuine empathy for your hardships because I'm well aware that wealth and comparison to the rest of the world doesn't guarantee happiness.
Notch is just a sad dude, wearing his grievances on his sleeve, because he's wealthy as fuck and despite this feeling like the essential components of a happy life (friends, love, and fun) aren't happening, and in some cases seemingly falling apart because of the wealth. Knocking him back on these points, which are neither here or there as it's just him being him as honest as possible, because "NO, YOU HAVE MONEY" is just baffling.
So many people in this thread need a crash course in empathy...as well as human decency =/ Can't remember the last time I got so annoyed reading a thread, the amount of smug ignorance on display is staggering and upsetting. We really have a ways to go in mental health awareness eh...
He is not sad because he has money. You'd think people would know depression is a serious issues regardless of success or money
If he does have issues, the fact he is vocalizing them, and not keeping everything internal is at least a plus point.though.
Might as well use this graph again...
Pretty disappointed with a lot of the juvenile responses in here and elsewhere, showcasing a fairly unprecedented and frankly unwarranted apathy and at times hostility towards a person's wellbeing simply because of their perceived fame and wealth. It's not about trying to diagnose him with a form of depression from your armchair (which is also foolishly reactionary). It's simply about having a modicum of empathy for another human being and the realities of wealth and power and the irrefutable fact these are not flawless conduits to perfectly happy life, and that a person's life and state of happiness can be influenced both positively and negatively by extreme surges in wealth and fame.
It's just a dude expressing reasonable (and hardly original) frustrations at where he's at in life due to his wealth and status relative to his social life and the difficulties this has introduced. The idea that the wealthy, extremely wealthy even, have no right to frustration or feeling depressed about these changes and difficulties is just absurd.
By the same leap of logic nobody in a developed Western country has the right to feel depressed. Why should I care if you're living paycheque to paycheque and couldn't go out for beers this weekend? Why should I care about your apparent financial hardships when your country, in most cases, does offer some form of financial and/or housing and/or food support in the most extreme situations? You're still, comparatively to the rest of the world, in the more wealthy, better off economic and lifestyle brackets. You don't know what full poverty and survivalism is. Got a TV? A computer? A phone? Fuck you, you really don't know how well you have it.
Yet I can muster genuine empathy for your hardships because I'm well aware that wealth and comparison to the rest of the world doesn't guarantee happiness.
Notch is just a sad dude, wearing his grievances on his sleeve, because he's wealthy as fuck and despite this feeling like the essential components of a happy life (friends, love, and fun) aren't happening, and in some cases seemingly falling apart because of the wealth. Knocking him back on these points, which are neither here or there as it's just him being him as honest as possible, because "NO, YOU HAVE MONEY" is just baffling.
This thread is perfect example of why depression isn't taken seriously in the world.
He should write a hiphop album.
You're making it look like he is far worse than he actually is.
depression is a first world problem, maybe that's why.
i'm sure he could afford some big producers, Kanye, Dr. Dre, etc.
I hope your joking because I have no clue what this means besides the obvious. Which would be quite dumb.depression is a first world problem, maybe that's why.
I think it's wrong to dismiss these sort of stories.
Our whole society is built around getting money. A few people are so good at it that they accumulate so much that there isn't enough to go around.
If in the end even those guys aren't happy, then that means we got our priorities all fucked up.
LOL are you a specialist in neuroscience?
So many "experts" on depression.
people in poor countries don't have time to be depressed. they either survive or die. little johnny in india doesn't like having to work 70 hours a week at the factory? tough shit.I hope your joking because I have no clue what this means besides the obvious. Which would be quite dumb.
You're making it look like he is far worse than he actually is.
If you have mental problems, none of the thing you mentioned are easy to do. In my country most people, the rich and the poor, have the means to get help for their problems, that is how our system works. But that doesn't mean the slightest it is easy for them do actually get help, from a mental perspective. And on top of that, if you get mad rich, people around you are bound to treat you differently, wheter you like it or not. And that can take it's toll on you too.
Money may give openings to more possibilities, sure, but it doesn't make mental health and personal relations any easier. What you are saying to me is the same as saying a severely depressed person doesn't have to sit home all day, he can go out an talk to people, ask friends/family to come over, seek for new hobbies, do volunteraly work etc. They sure can. Physically those things are all very simple to arrange for nearly every person at any time, but does that make it easy for them? I think not. A friend of mine had a severe depression and I had troubles understanding him for this very reason.
Fully agreed.
And most of this thread is asking for the very thing that got him into the situation to begin with. It's kind of ridiculous how short sighted some people can be. Countless studies have been done on lottery winners and such. It ain't all roses and sunshine. Yet, people still can't stop talking about all his money and wanting it. It would personally drive me crazy.
He came into a LOT of money in a very short amount of time. Do you think it unusual for people that hit the lottery to be depressed or have their lives basically ruined shortly after the fact? Money changes everything, and not just for the better. Suddenly you have people that want to be friends with you who don't really want anything to do with you, and you have to figure that out. Then you have people who you did considered friends/loved ones who either can't handle such a drastic change in circumstance or are pissed that they themselves didn't get the windfall(and with whatever they get wonder why it isn't more). On top of all of this, you suddenly find yourself in a position where you really have no reason to really do much of anything at all anymore. Even if Notch wasn't motivated by money originally with Minecraft, it getting as big as it did means that even something he used to love doing won't hold the same feelings anymore.
People are both social creatures and are creatures of habit. Suddenly getting a LOT of money radically changes both of those, and in most cases it's not for the better. As was said, the lack of empathy in this thread isn't surprising, but it's depressing in and of itself. And this is from someone living paycheck to paycheck and still working a +100 hour workweek.
I'm not saying he is in that state, but he might be and the point I was making is that money isn't the limiting factor for anyone who isn't struggling financially.
Maybe he isn't suffering depression, it could be that he's just feeling down but doesn't have anyone he trusts to talk about it with, surely even if we can't relate to his wealth everyone can relate to that no?
This is a really frustrating thread for me to look at because I see a lot of people who are basically saying
"He doesn't matter anymore because he has more money than I will ever see in my lifetime."
And you wonder why he says he feels isolated. Gosh, what a mystery.
"We believe that our dreams will solve all of our current problems without recognizing that they will simply create new variants of the same problems we experience now. Sure, these are often better problems to have. But sometimes they can be worse. And sometimes we’d be better off dealing with our shit in the present instead of pursuing some ideal in the future."
- Mark Manson
http://markmanson.net/dreams
depression is a first world problem, maybe that's why.
depression is a first world problem, maybe that's why
The worst thing you can do in life is to achieve your dream, pretty crazy
the emptiness one feels is pretty horrifying
There is a very distinct difference between someone living paycheck to paycheck and someone who has the wealth to do anything he wants. "Got a TV" and "Got a billion dollars?" are VASTLY different situations. I'm not against feeling empathy for the guy but it's difficult to feel sorry for someone who has the means to do whatever he wants INCLUDING talking to someone and figuring himself out.
Someone brought up Robin Williams early as a counterpoint about wealth but Robin Williams was never on twitter bitching about how hard it is to party with friends in Ibiza. Robin Williams spent his time, effort, and money trying to make people happy. He called Children's hospitals as various characters to make kids laugh for fucks sake. He didn't shy away from what his talents could do for people because he may have to deal with some corporate assholes. Notch is the opposite. He's going "oh woe is me and my money! I would do something but I don't want to deal with corporate assholes!" With the money he has he doesn't HAVE to deal with corporate assholes. He just doesn't want to do shit and he wants people to empathize and sympathize with him and as you can see, most people do not.
Have you ever been depressed?this is common sense. since when did you need to be an expert to realize something so obvious.
people in poor countries don't have time to be depressed. they either survive or die. little johnny in india doesn't like having to work 70 hours a week at the factory? tough shit.
This is a really frustrating thread for me to look at because I see a lot of people who are basically saying
"He doesn't matter anymore because he has more money than I will ever see in my lifetime."
And you wonder why he says he feels isolated. Gosh, what a mystery.
people in poor countries don't have time to be depressed. they either survive or die. little johnny in india doesn't like having to work 70 hours a week at the factory? tough shit.
No it's not, stop being so damn ignorant.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ing-map-of-depression-rates-around-the-world/
Notch needs to just get over himself and do something positive with all his money. No one cares if you are a billionaire and whining on Twitter.
edit: he will get positive attention by doing something good with all he has than just bitching about doing nothing
depression is a first world problem, maybe that's why.
i'm sure he could afford some big producers, Kanye, Dr. Dre, etc.
I always thought of Notch as a weak minded person.
Really hope he pulls through.
depression is a first world problem, maybe that's why.