Yeah, screw more developers releasing on Wii U. Nintendo is drowning in third party support right now.
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Double Helix will consider porting new Strider to Wii U if theres demand
- Thread starter fluffydelusions
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Yeah, screw more developers releasing on Wii U. Nintendo is drowning in third party support right now.
lordfroakie
Member
Like change will make a DIFFERENCE!
...Is there a link to this?
Pirzolaman
Banned
Hmm when I think about it, I think he wanted to say if there was demand for the console itself maybe, not the game. But he can't say that out loud obviously..
I mean there is no demand on the other consoles to begin with.
I mean there is no demand on the other consoles to begin with.
Vermillion
Banned
I feel like people need to pack way more effort and content into 2D games for them to sell these days. And improve the presentation, I mean seriously - it does look like an XBLA game. I'm perfectly fine with games like these being retail games, but they've gotta look the part.
CriterionDog
Member
I would love to own it on the Wii U!!! : D
Rhazer Fusion
Member
I've been hearing that a lot lately. Maybe that is one reason third parties avoid the Wii U because they know their games are not going to sell no matter how good they are because most owners will not even give their games a chance. At this point, if I was a Wii U owner, I would at least try to embrace and be grateful for any support I can receive from third parties.
Naked Prime
Member
$60?!?!? didn't see that...they can keep it (on any platform) if true
It's less a real attitude and more a defense for people upset when the Wii U gets shunned. As a Wii U owner, I'd love for nearly anything to be hitting the damn system at this point and I sure as shit don't have an "ah, who needs 'em!" attitude with this game because it looks really good. Although I guess it doesn't really matter for me because I'll have about every platform it's launching on so I'm covered.
Zombie James
Banned
Cross-gen games are going to be all the rage for at least the first year of these new systems so it would be foolish not have your foot in the next-gen door, imho.
-MD-
Member
You're kidding... I would have bet my life that this was a $15 game.
Ninja Scooter
Member
I don't think you know what indie is.
NoirVisage
Banned
precisely.
I also don't think he knows what "more than enough" is.
We want to do something unique that takes advantage of the gamepad.
All of our current development resources are for other systems but we'll think about a Wii U version.
We gave them a port of an old game but no one bought it so we are currently rethinking our Wii U support strategy.
What's a Wii U? Does it have the ram?
Feel free to take a look at this thread
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=594761
Looks like "more than enough" to me!
Rhazer Fusion
Member
$60 game? Oh.....
Ninja Scooter
Member
A game published by Capcom, developed by Double Helix, and using a 20+ year old IP that has been featured in Marvel Vs Capcom, is pretty much the exact opposite of "indie". Indie does not mean 2D and/or downloadable.
When I load into the e-Shop I'm more like "where the fuck all the games at?" Maybe in the distant future that will be different. Also, this game isn't indie but people have told you that already.
JordanLMiller
Member
There's no demand. Don't bother.
If you take indie as being 2D and retro and stop there, maybe? But it's an old IP being published by one of the biggest Japanese publishers in existence. It's the opposite of indie.
Doctor_Thomas
Member
Yes. Nothing like wanting less support on a console already hurting for support.
What an odd stance for Nintendo fans take.
What an odd stance for Nintendo fans take.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
So can we demand that WayForward develop this game instead?
Real response: I'm really tired of Capcom's "weeelllll maybe if you beg for it we'll let you have it." Just tell us yes or no, and stop bullshitting us with every goddamn announcement.
Real response: I'm really tired of Capcom's "weeelllll maybe if you beg for it we'll let you have it." Just tell us yes or no, and stop bullshitting us with every goddamn announcement.
"The Wii-U needs more games, I love my Wii-U!"
"Oh, that game isn't from a AAA or well established developer? Don't need it."
Feels like some Wii-U owners have some Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde going on in their minds. Ports of games from 2011 and 2012 get some of you excited but a Metroidvania reboot doesn't? The Wii-U needs everything it can get.
They've made mediocre games in the past yes. Holding that against them for as long as their studio exists is starting to get extremely silly.
"Oh, that game isn't from a AAA or well established developer? Don't need it."
Feels like some Wii-U owners have some Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde going on in their minds. Ports of games from 2011 and 2012 get some of you excited but a Metroidvania reboot doesn't? The Wii-U needs everything it can get.
They've made mediocre games in the past yes. Holding that against them for as long as their studio exists is starting to get extremely silly.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
People buy third party games on those systems.
Napalm_Frank
Member
I'd imagine people who own a Wii U are quite likely to have a PS360, especially if they would have bought a third party game in the first place.
tkscz
Member
So a company known for making bad to mediocre games is in development of 2 of my favorite childhood games?
And people buy 3rd party games on Nintendo systems. If they didn't, these 3rd parties would have died in the early to mid-90s.
We're out of the 90s and fast approaching 2020. Times have changed.
Before Mercury Steam made Castlevania Lords of Shadow they made Scrapland and the demon turd that was Clive Barker's Jericho. Lords of Shadow is a excellent game, and the best 3D Castlevania to date.
If anything people should be apprehensive of what they see from gameplay or previews versus whose making the game. Fans of older Strider games have reasons to be apprehensive based on gameplay shown. They don't just plop out "lol Double Helix, shit company".
Its just lazy and winded criticism. As if every developer, programmer, coder, or designer has only worked on masterpieces and revolutionary games.
If anything people should be apprehensive of what they see from gameplay or previews versus whose making the game. Fans of older Strider games have reasons to be apprehensive based on gameplay shown. They don't just plop out "lol Double Helix, shit company".
Its just lazy and winded criticism. As if every developer, programmer, coder, or designer has only worked on masterpieces and revolutionary games.
sixteen-bit
Member
3rd party titles sold on Nintendo systems despite Nintendo's best efforts to suppress them. Remember publishing limitations on the NES? Konami had to spin off another label (Ultra Games) just so they could publish all their games. You left that out of your history lesson, lol.
Ninja Scooter
Member
So people bought third party games on Nintendo systems in the early 90s? Great selling point.
Businesses used to use Blackberrys almost exclusively too. Hasn't stopped them from sinking to the bottom of the mobile phone market.
Doctor_Thomas
Member
Then the PlayStation came along and that all stopped and now third party games don't sell on Nintendo consoles.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
Um....not recently. We are not in the 90's anymore. Have you seen the third party game sales on the Wii U and even the on the Wii? I say since the Playstation really took off, that's when third party sales started to decline on Nintendo consoles. A significant difference from the SNES and NES days I think.
Have you seen the 3rd party offerings on the Wii U or even the Wii? If you're going to remark on my supposedly false comparison, it's best to check your own.
And no, it's not the late 90s, but the principle is the same: content creates a userbase, not the console. THAT is why the NES and SNES succeeded as they did, no other reason. Same with the PlayStation brand. Nothing keeps that from happening again except 3rd parties themselves.
The times have changed, but this truth doesn't change, so using that as a crutch for why this has happened makes us no better than the 3rd parties we are lambasting for shitty excuses.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
I'd argue a good part of the lack of third party offerings is Nintendo's stubbornness to create a system that 3rd parties want to work with. In my opinion, that is Nintendo's biggest problem.
It's at least at architectural parity with 2 systems they haven't been able to get enough of for the past 6-7 years despite one of them having almost as shitty sales as WiiU, this kinda falls flat as a reason, especially in a thread about a PS360 game.
I'd say PS3 makes my whole point about content selling people on a console that is otherwise unpalatable.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
- I see we're back to blaming all third party offerings on WiiU (oh and Wii as well) as naff. That elitist community feel.
- Sony and Microsoft actively courted third parties through every means possible, and their latest hardware is built directly to their feedback and wants. WiiU isn't. Surprise!
- The times are in which everything that isn't Mario simply isn't putting up vaguely acceptable numbers on WiiU. There is no other more relevant truth.