Not going to happen because unlike SFxT, CvS2 was actually played at EVO for quite a while.
I couldn't find that Gootecks SFxT rant..
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I couldn't find that Gootecks SFxT rant..
On the contrary, I felt many people wanted an alternative to SFIV and gave SFxT a serious shot.
The game was just not that good.
Holy Order Sol
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Valle looked like he was having so much fun just checking out the characters too.
not sure if grown-ass man
or 6-year-old kid at an amusement park
I miss Magus1234 on Marvel EVO commentary.
The classic.
Though his replacements have been doing a fine job holding down the fort.
Tragic with that 40-0 Talos record. Valle had no chance but he was enjoying himself.
lol that sucks
i think barfights was a cool concept. it would actually work better today because the scene has established some big (and medium) names, although it might also be more expensive to arrange actually hype flights since you would need players from all over the country like smug or du to make it worthwhile.
Also cvs2 was considered much better than 3rd strike (the game that almost made daigo quit fighting games) by many people at the time already, SFxT has been considered ass ever since a couple of months after the release.
Looks interesting with how different the characters are.
World Heroes tier at best.
Was interested in seeing that. Your talks about them makes me wonder how many early top SF IV are faring right now. The guys who had a bit of an edge at the start but fell from the herd.
Since when is Skullgirls more anime than KoF?...
KoF has a really hard time in the US - not Capcom enough for recurring exposure, not anime enough for the anime niche cluster...
MiniBossBattle
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Feel like Jago moved on from EMP and fighting games. After hearing about Triforce, I think I would quit gaming too. He is in a much more competitive field of dancing. That is not an easy gig.
Last I heard Magus was learning to play Tekkan and had a 9-5. Probably a jobber now.
I don't know what happened to Darry but I didn't like Darry's commentary. He looks like a Darry.
Last I heard Magus was learning to play Tekkan and had a 9-5. Probably a jobber now.
I don't know what happened to Darry but I didn't like Darry's commentary. He looks like a Darry.
Hmm was the Gootecks rant the one where he said big fuck you to someone. He did not name names but many people thought it was Mr Wizard he was giving the big fuck you to, others thought it was Ross.
Him and Ross were not seen together for a while after that.
Truly was a low point thankfully he recovered from it and it's in the past.
It became one. It's initial version was ass- and that was the version that the hype machine was out on.
It's the game that made me pickier about what I buy FG-wise.
"God's Beard!"
Member
To be fair, you can be a shill and still like the games you're selling. It's hard to say Mike Ross was lying that he loved the game when he and combo made top 4 at EVO.
SFxT was a good game that was legitimately popular among top players that happened to have some unfortunate circumstances surrounding it.
SFxT was a good game that was legitimately popular among top players that happened to have some unfortunate circumstances surrounding it.
i swear i remember it being revealed who he cursed out but i forgot who it was. it wasn't mike ross or arturo sanchez.
MiniBossBattle
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I didn't like the Neon look of the SFxT.
Oh man I forgot about the sound/noise. UGH. Just not a fan of the look. I did like the air juggle to ground combo conversion but it was a harsh sounding game. Juri tier annoying.
Oh man I forgot about the sound/noise. UGH. Just not a fan of the look. I did like the air juggle to ground combo conversion but it was a harsh sounding game. Juri tier annoying.
what's up with the "simplified edition"? what exactly do they mean?
Karsticles
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The sound effects are atrocious.
Which reminds me. The "blocking" sound effect in SFV is terrible.
"God's Beard!"
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Simplified Chinese is a way of writing the language.
Kinda like kana vs kanji in Japanese.
Karsticles
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Pair Peacock with Double assist for good times.
Last time i heard Magus is doing well in life. (And hooked to Fina Fantasy XIV)
Dunno about DarryH
The Keystone streams were the very first streams i've ever watched.
<3 Haunts <3 (Mr Jared was a cool cat back then)
lol. It that combo still god tier?
irfaanator
Banned
what happened to magus? I actually liked him on commentary
notworksafe
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Not nearly what it used to be, sadly
Shouta
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I'd still be playing it if there were opponents I could play. Shame the rollback netcode fucking kills me.
The game was killed by poor decision making by Capcom (DLC, Gems) and SF4 game habits (jabs into everything, etc)
Actually, that's what makes me happy about SF5 just killing jab confirms. No more prorated combos.
Karsticles
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Not god tier, but definitely great for Peacock along with Big Band.
MiniBossBattle
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Same! I was in crunchmode at my old job. While things were rendering and not on fire I would listen/watch those guys on stream. They really helped during the long days especially when I had to work obscene hours on sometimes Vaporware. They reminded me of college TV or local access TV.
ZeroTheShadow
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You can totally confirm off of jabs. I was doing it all through out the beta.
notworksafe
Member
Cammy can definitely do it, no problem
Yup, that's c.lp c.lp hah
The Lone Dragon
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A lot of people couldn't even get past the wake up game because it wasn't identical to SF4's. The SFxT forums on SRK saw all sorts of nonsense during that period.
"OMG people can just roll away for 'free'! How am I supposed to set up my vortexes now? I'm going back to SF4!"
(Meanwhile, people with brains could bait out rolls, cross people up, and get full combos.)
The vanilla version was no more "ass" than most vanilla versions of fighting games. MKX had tons of infinites, glitches, and "ass"...and how's that PC version? What about the PS3 and Xbox360 versions? Yeah.
Vanilla SF4 was busted, too. The difference is the FGC's willingness to forgive. The controversy surrounding the game was the problem in that regard.
I think Keystone was one of the first weekly's I watched shit was funny as fuck with people getting mad drunk and playing SF.
Also, Sp00kys house stream with him, Art, Nerdjosh, Minh, and few others was one of the first ones I watched for home version of SFIV.
irfaanator
Banned
ah good old ffxiv
He cleaned up, got a job and got hooked on Final Fantasy XIV.
Im doing my best bothering him to come back though
Shouta
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Sure. You can definitely confirm off 1, maybe 2 jabs. Any more and the opponent is pushed out of range now before you can do bigger buttons
The real issue is multiple jabs as a confirm since they're low damage and cause the big hits that follow to have reduced damage. It's really common in general USF4 play and why most combos don't really break 20-25% damage. If you look at E.ryu, he has big damage but that's partially because folks don't confirm into it using jab, it's cr.mk xx fireball fadc, counter hit and etc which means the big hits aren't getting prorated as hard, lol.
In SFxT, good combos that started with mediums regularly broke 50% damage for 1 bar but was reduced to like 25-30% every time you used a few jabs or went into the ABC launcher series.
I think Cammy is the only one that can do cr.lp, cr.lp. I think everyone else is just 1 jab then other stuff or all jabs. I know Birdie can do lp, lp, lk, lp rush but that's all lights lol
Parallax Scroll
Banned
Yeah Gootecks did this tell-all and it became really obvious who he was talking about, but it's hard to remember the details now. I think it had something to do with being told they couldn't monetize tutorial videos for Capcom games.
Edit: Yeah, that was it. Brady or Prima or someone had exclusive rights to pay-to-watch video tutorials and Gootecks got a C&D on the content he was making.
Was kinda expecting it. I wonder what sort of team I can build now with Robo Fortune.
I was privy to know who Gootecks was cursing out at the time.
However revealing it at this point is bad because relations have never been better between the parties and that is long behind them. I don't think you'll see a C&D like that again since it was wholly based on misguided thinking.
However revealing it at this point is bad because relations have never been better between the parties and that is long behind them. I don't think you'll see a C&D like that again since it was wholly based on misguided thinking.
ZeroTheShadow
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Nash can do c.Lk c. lk. c.lp LK Sonic Saw. That's what I was doing the whole beta for a hit confirm. You can tack a super on the end of that too if you have it. If you want to blow some meter EX Sonic Saw comboed as well.
Most crouching light attacks can't be comboed into mediums if that's what you mean by all of this but standing lights sure can. Nash s.lk gave so much advantage you could pretty much link everything off of it. If you were close enough you could do s.lk s.lk b+mk into whatever as a hit confirm or just do the s.lp s.lk target combo into b+mk.
Also you have to remember Shouta that SFxT had two life bars as well. Comparing damage between a Tag game and a none Tag game doesn't really work.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
Note that the PC version is dead and no one I know who has a history in other genres of 2D fighting games takes MKX seriously. :<
Vanilla SFIV did well because there was nothing else. Everyone was ass, and the gameplay was still Street Fighter.
Vanilla SFxT had one glaringly obvious flaw that drove everyone I knew away from it: Throws were complete garbage. That alone made turtling awful to deal with. It wasn't until throws removed red life and rolls were throw vulnerable that the game became great. When someone would ask me "How do I punish people rolling away with my character?" and the answer is "You don't unless you're X, Y or Z character with an anti-roll setup." they go back to SFIV.
Shouta
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Yeah, I usually mean crouching lights since most folks crouch jab in USF4. Actually, that's sort of interesting that standing ones work but not lights. I didn't play much Nash after Birdie got unlocked.
Standing light confirms working is interesting because while it lets you do the stuff like from USF4, it exposes to you low attacks in the process. Hmm, that's some food for thought for when the game gets released. Thanks for the Nash info. =o
On SFxT, if I was talking about how combo damage affected game speed, I'd agree. However, I really was just speaking about combo damage by itself and how jabs affect that.
I mean my point in general is that light confirms reduce damage and that the less viable they are, the more damage characters can do since they'll be forced to use mediums and the like. If we logically continue the conversation then yeah, that'll go to game speed lol.
https://twitter.com/SuperDojo/status/626146703045869568
Doesn't this mean he has to do round 3 with the same planning board?
Doesn't this mean he has to do round 3 with the same planning board?
I'm completely fine with SFV being basic. I think the bigger worry is there going to be any sort of depth? Will there even be anything that warrants a skill gap outside of fighting game fundamentals? Street Fighter at its core was never about parries or supers. However, we just expect more from a fighting game in 2015-2016. Worst case scenario, SFV will be a game you can pick up, and enjoy, but you'll go back to other fighting games because they have more to it.
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