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Final Fantasy XIII |OT|
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Rez said:
It's not really like that though. I think a better way to explain it would be to say that the game doesn't really have much "freedom" like one would think of in a larger sense, but you always have freedom within the constrains of what you're going through at that moment. Think of it like playing a SRPG, or a mission based RPG. The game is very well paced in terms of having almost no "down time" and once you're actually playing the game if you enjoy the mechanics enough you'll be kept busy enough not to worry about the lack of certain staples in the genre.
Rez said:
Actually I think it was mixed-up pretty well. You're constantly unlocking new stuff the first several hours and visiting pretty different places, which keeps things fresh. The battle system, even early on, it's a lot of fun, though the game starts a bit too easy until the later chapters.
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Raist said:
Castor Krieg
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Ok, difficulty just went x3. I was in
Whitewood bio-zone, fighting last boss, Bulbasaur. OMFG, 10 minutes boss fight because I cannot use 2xRavagers at once, before I can Stagger him I need to switch to Medic and heal. Ended up doing it the hard way, managed to stagger him only once in the fight.
LiquidMetal14
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Just seen the commercial, probably the worst RPG commercial I've ever seen. Stupid girly singing. Now, that may fit what 13 or Lightning is all about but damn it is annoying as hell. I will at least say it's the worst of any FF ad I've ever seen, maybe not the worst but I can't of any other game with as bad a commercial for the North American market.
I play the japanese version I bought for cheap and was sceptical I'll enjoy the game. Still, after about 10 hours it grows on me. (Still hate Vanilla, she symbolises the evil of modern jrpgs, IMO) Some dialogues are cringeworthy as had been said, but the battlesystem is top notch. But I don't feel the story yet. I like the music and some backgrounds (the frozen lake) are beautiful, but why is it such a huge departure from the FF formula? I liked the open world exploration aspect of FF 
What doesn't help is, that I'm playing on a SD tv, kanji are blurry, small and hard to read.
What doesn't help is, that I'm playing on a SD tv, kanji are blurry, small and hard to read.SolidusDave
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getting a bit worried the CE will be sold out before it drops to a more reasonable price point (= not 170% more expensive than the standard version...), don't want to pay £60/80 (especially if it's considered to be a bad entry in the series) but some shops are already out of stock :/
(yeah, I could just buy the standard version but I'm a sucker for CEs of games I want, plus I want the classic box-cover + the OST)
(yeah, I could just buy the standard version but I'm a sucker for CEs of games I want, plus I want the classic box-cover + the OST)
RedAssedApe
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Raist said:
Not that it matters, but Final Fantasy I-III have the lowest metacritic scores of the main line series (for obvious reasons). I think this game will be closer to FFV in terms of reception. Albeit you flip flop the story for game play.
Castor Krieg
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2San said:
Because it is a FF game. Sorry, there is no arrogance here. I can still remember the day I had food poisoning, because it was the day I got FFVIII for PC. It is a series, like it or not, that lasted for 25 years now. You can complain about it, but for me this is something to be experienced. Kinda like Star Wars - I knew Ep. I is going to blow, I still went and saw the movie. Because it's Star Wars. Same thing applies to FF.
It's not really fanboyism or blind devotion, I simply think FF games always did things differently than the majority of jRPGs. That spark of brilliance I got in FFX and FFXII I only experienced with Persona 3 & 4. I believe Megaten is the only jRPG franchise that can compete with FF, unfortunately Atlus doesn't have so much money for gorgeous CGI.
RedAssedApe
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2San said:
To be honest, if you're an RPG fan I don't think you're going to skip FF13 for any of those games you've mentioned. I think most people will take into consideration their past experience with the series and give it a shot on that alone regardless of some of the more mediocre reviews out there.
Personally I think Yakuza 3 is going to bomb. :lol
Rahxephon91
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I fail to see how any of those games detracts from a FF game.2San said:
Yakuza 3-Not worth $60. way to late to be asking that price.
Battlefield BC2-All the demo told me is this that this is way more BFBC.
GoW3-lol
Fate-Tri Ace deserves a wait and see stance.
RedAssedApe
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Durante said:
Amazon.co.jp reviews probably? :lol
Dedication Through Light
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Those unlocks for themes, are any of them dynamic themes?
henhowc said:
But Amazon.jp reviews are a great judge of game popularity in Japan! After all, we all know Modern Warfare 2 outsold Dragon Quest 9, but Burning Impregnation Breast Exam ~Everyone Creampies their High School Best Friend During a Checkup~ destroyed both in the charts and critical opinion.
zerokoolpsx
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Very Nice OP Kagari. I was wondering where this thread was going to go up.
Somewhat surprised at the lower review scores.
Somewhat surprised at the lower review scores.
Yeah, but not everyone is rich have money to blow. I'm just saying just because it's called Final Fantasy # doesn't make it a must buy. I'm just saying it might not be worth your money as there are a lot more options out there.Castor Krieg said:
So you are saying with Star wars even if it wasn't good you'd still go, I on other hand would actually go as well, since going to the movies is dirt cheap anyhow. However when talking about $60 purchase, it's a different story and with a gaming month like this I'd say money is spent better else where. Remember I never said Final Fantasy XIII was bad.
Yeah and FFX/FFXII where positively received by people and reviewers mind you.
Again so you overlook other possibly better games just because it isn't a Final Fantasy?henhowc said:
There's no metric, all from user impressions. I don't see how this any different as to why you think it's worth it? Remember I never said FFXIII was worse as a fact.Durante said:
Thank you for your expert opinion. I'll take it into consideration next time I buy a game.Rahxephon91 said:
LiquidMetal14
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Agree on everything except BFBC2 and GoW3. GoW3 may outsell FF13 WW. BF is awesome online.Rahxephon91 said:
Castor Krieg said:
I'd say you're currently still in the honeymoon period. The first 20 hours of the game are actually fine, they're the rush when it comes to combat. After 30-35 hours you just want the game to end.
By placing FF on some pedestal and holding it to a different set of truths is exactly why this game hasn't been rated lower. It is arrogance. If it were an original IP, yet the exact same game, you can bet people would had bashed it to bits for its tunnel vision. It's stupid to set FF above other games when it comes to evaluationI experienced the same enthrall for a different FF game but with a series that changes every iteration it's hardly something to hold for all other installments. Can you consider every installment a polished and good game in its own right? Yes. But there are equally polished and even better games out there. The spark of brilliance does not belong to the franchise, it belongs to individual games. "Doing things differently" applies to every game, because developers strive to differentiate from the pack.
Say Demon's Souls and FF13 came out in the same month, and you can only buy one. It's possible that FF13 may appeal more to you personally, but let's just say you're evaluating this from perspective of "better game". Can you honestly say you'll buy FF13 over DS because it's an FF? If that's the case, then what you do have is indeed blind devotion.
LiquidMetal14
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Yes.CrankyJay said:
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A passionate embrace, a beautiful memory lingers.
I know nothing of this game, and the only Final Fantasy game I've beaten was the tenth one.
Can anyone give me a quick and fanboy free opinion on what I should expect and if they think I'd like it? Because this game is looking quite nice.
I've never really got into turn based RPGs (If it's that) but I won't shy away just because of that. I'm expecting more of a grand adventure with this game. Is that what I'm getting? I want it, but i'm afraid to just throw money around at this current time. =(
Can anyone give me a quick and fanboy free opinion on what I should expect and if they think I'd like it? Because this game is looking quite nice.
I've never really got into turn based RPGs (If it's that) but I won't shy away just because of that. I'm expecting more of a grand adventure with this game. Is that what I'm getting? I want it, but i'm afraid to just throw money around at this current time. =(
Philanthropist
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CrankyJay said:
We aren't in 2008 anymore.
CruxisMana
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EvaPlusMinus said:
Reading some of the reviews might help.
I liked the 1UP review; http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?pager.offset=0&cId=3178230&p=
Rahxephon91
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Do try and maybe you wont waste money anymore. Besides none of the games you listed provide the kind of experience that a FF does.2San said:
Well maybe BC2 is fun online ,but it still isn't doing the awesome things the BF2 did years ago. When I want to play BF online, I'll just sit down on my pc.
As for GoW3. Well I tried the demo and I was meet with some of the worst and sluggish gameplay in a supposedly AAA action game ever. I don't remember 1 or 2 feeling this bad. On top of that Kratos is one of the worst game characters ever and in these games a good character is kind of a must.
Although the metacore (I know, hate me) initially shocked me, the more I actually read the damn reviews the more I realize that the complaints made against this game are simply things that don't bother me. The linearity is perfectly okay with me; I've never been one to really do sidequests and explore the world with games like Fallout 3 or Oblivion.
It's alot like FFX because it's linear and has some anime influences.EvaPlusMinus said:
The combat system is a extremely fast version of the action turn based gameplay in previous games with some extra things thrown in the mix.
And it's Final Fantasy, if you like jrpg's, you just have to get it.
Ok thank you, I'm so glad I have you. It's obvious you played every game that is released and that aren't released. Just wondering what do you think of Cheer We Go! Oh infinite source of knowledge, thank you for taking time to talk to peasant like me.Rahxephon91 said:
The tag you have is obviously a joke, since you have incredible taste.
Castor Krieg
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ACE 1991 said:
This. 90% of the review scores come down to "Linearity is bad, give me fantasy ME!", the other 10% are from those who didn't notice tutorial ended pretty quickly. Keep jRPGs linear, keep wRPGs open-world, I don't understand why we have to do East vs. West stuff. Kitase is not helping, moron.
Anyway, 10hrs in and having a blast.
I don't see whats wrong with a linear game. Its like a while ago, lots of games were penalized (by stupid people and fanboys) for not having multiplayer. Would Oblivion really benefit from multiplayer? I mean, really? Now in the world of big mass open games EVERYTHING needs to be completely driven by freedom. You know what I say?
Fuck that.
I'm glad the game is more linear. Balancing college and a job, I don't have enough time to navigate my way through every little bit of the game world just so I get the best upgrades or whatever. Thats why I didn't get into Dragon Age, I just didn't have enough time to invest in it.
Thumbs up for linear gameplay!
Fuck that.
I'm glad the game is more linear. Balancing college and a job, I don't have enough time to navigate my way through every little bit of the game world just so I get the best upgrades or whatever. Thats why I didn't get into Dragon Age, I just didn't have enough time to invest in it.
Thumbs up for linear gameplay!
Still you haven't played the other games have you? I'm just saying it's not weird to make purchase decisions on reviews or user impression. Since for the most of us it's impossible to play all the games available. At least to me it makes more sense then going on a title name.Durante said:Well, I've played 11 hours now and I think it is
mjemirzian
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What worries me is what I've read in the Wired review. "Final Fantasy XIII ramps up achingly slowly, only giving you two characters at first, and limiting the roles and characters you can use. For much of the time, youre just watching the game play itself. For the first half of the game, using the roles that youve been given to obliterate anything that comes your way requires less strategy than beating a toddler at Connect Four."
Plot linearity isn't a problem, but lack of character customization and patronizingly easy difficulty might be. The stat caps and ranking are a good step forward, but it seems like they made the difficulty and complexity low early on to compensate for not being able to grind.. at least until the stat caps are later lifted.
Plot linearity isn't a problem, but lack of character customization and patronizingly easy difficulty might be. The stat caps and ranking are a good step forward, but it seems like they made the difficulty and complexity low early on to compensate for not being able to grind.. at least until the stat caps are later lifted.
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